Wow. And just like that, I’m glad I was an “average” kid in the 80’s and 90’s. Though I did intentionally wear two different colored ballet flats that matched my outfit and by the end of the day, girls were trading shoes so they could wear two different ones also. Yeah, I guess fifth grade rock stars like me didn’t get the pink drink and headphones…😜
I ran into your moose early Saturday having a cold one at a Wisconsin Dells tavern, and she told me sometimes she just needs a break. She also floated her idea for today's column and I agreed it was a topper, so she phoned it in. (I actually had to help a little--she could use a larger phone--and she should be back in Texas now.) I wish I had a moose.
Holy cow! How cool to read about the Monroe Institute (MI) here in Jenna's blog. Back in high school -- the 1980s -- I read all 3 of Robert Monroe's books, so was well acquainted then with his Hemi-Sync and MI there in Virginia. His 1st book (Journeys Out Of The Body -- I think I still have it in storage!) was kinda life changing for me; however the sequels were increasingly eccentric. ... I was desperately wanting to do the MI Gateway Program (GP), but couldn't convince my parents, let alone lack of funds. But then I did encounter a distant relative who went through it and she related how intense/emotional it was, including the collection of Focus #'d audio tapes. In retrospect, probably best I didn't do the MI GP as a teenager, as I was already overwhelmed daily with the usual adolescent mess: hormones, social issues, libido, emotional rollercoaster, etc. Not a good foundation to literally leave one's body, have an intense spiritual OOBE, and try to zip around the astral plane like a trained/seasoned mystic.
I was one of the GATE kids too. 1977. They pulled me out starting in 1st grade. IQ test of 145 (not that it matters to anything as to how successful you’ll be). Taken to a small spare room in a hall near the cafeteria stage that I previously didn’t know existed.
I do remember some hearing and memory tests, but I don’t remember drinking any pink liquid.
The first year it was just me. The next year or two they added two other kids who I didn’t think were all that smart.
In 6th grade, they took the 3 of us and shipped us across town to another elementary school where they “centralized” us into a whole classroom of gifted kids from all 6 elementary schools in the district and had 2 teachers for about 20 students. We had access to the first TRS-80 in the district in 1982.
It was the gifted kids that typically were in the “honors” classes back then since my district didn’t have “AP” classes at the time. (Not sure when that nonsense started.) But we were also the ones who were typically in the Olympics of the Mind competitions in High School, later renamed to Odyssey of the Mind because of trademark or something stupid like that.
The only useful thing that came out of that was that my team of three invented the predecessor of the modern drone in 1988. We were challenged to make a device that could hover and pick things up and drop them off on a course, and ours was exactly designed like a modern drone except that it was wired to our remote and had some helium balloons for neutral buoyancy.
Of that team of 3, one kid is now dead of suicide and I think the other is a doctor, while I’m just an average IT worker.
LingOL! I was part of a group of four kids who were pulled out of class in the 1970s and sent to the "computer lab." (It was legit a storage closet with one giant computer.) There was no teacher, no instruction, no worksheets, no beverages... just "play with the computer." It was AWESOME hahahaha.
This stuff is well known. There was even a documentary about it on the TV. I think it was called The Men Who Stare at Goats. On this side of the Atlantic, MI6 always claimed they never had anything to do with it, but a friend of mine knew a guy who was involved with MI6 during WW2, and he persuaded my friend to try his out of body stuff. My friend suffered from serious mental problems as a result, and realised that his only salvation lay in committing his life to the Lord Jesus Christ. He was saved, and had no more mental problems. He even became a vicar.
I voted unsure because I didn't think tomfoolery was quite accurate. Gov. has no right to use people, esp children, without consent and accountability. Monsters.
I am older than the programs discussed here, but us seniors also have our suspicions about memory gapes and general weirdness.
I'm old enough that when I was in school they just had you skip grades if you were considered above the class average. I skipped one and my sister skipped 2. My son was in GATE in the 90's in California but I don't remember any strange pink liquids or binaural beat headphones and they had their own classes all day, not leaving to go anywhere, so maybe the experiments were more around DC areas. I totally believe that it happened though.
Just waiting on the declassification, so true. Is there where McDonald's got its "pink slime"?? And yes, I was LOLing the cartoon ... thanks for the mammaries ... must obey now :-)
I do not know where the material for your columns comes from, and my usual reaction is “WHY am I always the last to know this stuff!” And by that you’ll know I was NOT one of those gifted kids (but both my boys were in the Advanced Placement programs from kindergarten through high school. (That last part is just plain bragging. 😉)
LingOL!!! (My 23YO daughter tipped me off to this one... it was all she was seeing on social media. I hadn't seen it at all, which is proof algorithms are real...)
"Today we voluntarily hand Silicon Valley every heartbeat, Google search, grocery purchase, and late-night Amazon impulse buy."
Looking forward to reading a Step-by-Step, someday, for the WEAN OFF of this.
For some reason, this story is reminding me of the joke from 4th grade about "Kamikaze School." An instructor is explaining the basics of the "tactic" to a roomful of hard-found volunteers: essentially, pilot an unarmed bomb into an enemy asset and die for the emperor. "Questions?", he added, at the end. "Yes, you in the back..." The response (and you have to scream it): "You out of you FOKKEEN mine?!!!"
This happened in America, and back in the 1950s. Much has changed, but I'm having fun picturing at least ONE kid, a sweet little girl maybe, in this program demanding an answer to that question from "the handlers."
It strikes me that the current "education system" has been doing the same thing, in broad daylight, with parental compliance, in pushing the trans-and-other shites.
I was a GT kid all through school. In TX I always heard it referred to as GT, not GATE. But I will say - I have very few childhood memories! I always just thought it was my brain keeping things under lock & file, but now I'm wondering! I want to say I don't remember anything nefarious, but then I realized - I don't remember much, just brief glimpses of an otherwise happy & loving childhood!
My sister has always said her son (now early 30s) has NO childhood memories. When I was researching this I texted her like OMG WAS HE IN GATE? Of course, yes he was...
Same but in CO. I don’t have many childhood memories either, but mine was shitty and traumatic so it’s possible I really did lock those away. Still, it makes me wonder.
I voted more government tomfoolery.
But I would prefer a different word to describe what our government did and I feel certain continues to do.
EVIL
🎯 💯 %
Yep, that's the right word for it.
Wow. And just like that, I’m glad I was an “average” kid in the 80’s and 90’s. Though I did intentionally wear two different colored ballet flats that matched my outfit and by the end of the day, girls were trading shoes so they could wear two different ones also. Yeah, I guess fifth grade rock stars like me didn’t get the pink drink and headphones…😜
Bad ass. 🙌🤬🍑😘
DARPA home of government funded Mad Scientists.
The Stranger Things Netflix series is based on these secret government programs. Fact is stranger than fiction.
I love when we can all agree that the government is evil and corrupt regardless of the political party.
It's funny you mention that, Jenna, because...
I ran into your moose early Saturday having a cold one at a Wisconsin Dells tavern, and she told me sometimes she just needs a break. She also floated her idea for today's column and I agreed it was a topper, so she phoned it in. (I actually had to help a little--she could use a larger phone--and she should be back in Texas now.) I wish I had a moose.
Holy cow! How cool to read about the Monroe Institute (MI) here in Jenna's blog. Back in high school -- the 1980s -- I read all 3 of Robert Monroe's books, so was well acquainted then with his Hemi-Sync and MI there in Virginia. His 1st book (Journeys Out Of The Body -- I think I still have it in storage!) was kinda life changing for me; however the sequels were increasingly eccentric. ... I was desperately wanting to do the MI Gateway Program (GP), but couldn't convince my parents, let alone lack of funds. But then I did encounter a distant relative who went through it and she related how intense/emotional it was, including the collection of Focus #'d audio tapes. In retrospect, probably best I didn't do the MI GP as a teenager, as I was already overwhelmed daily with the usual adolescent mess: hormones, social issues, libido, emotional rollercoaster, etc. Not a good foundation to literally leave one's body, have an intense spiritual OOBE, and try to zip around the astral plane like a trained/seasoned mystic.
I was one of the GATE kids too. 1977. They pulled me out starting in 1st grade. IQ test of 145 (not that it matters to anything as to how successful you’ll be). Taken to a small spare room in a hall near the cafeteria stage that I previously didn’t know existed.
I do remember some hearing and memory tests, but I don’t remember drinking any pink liquid.
The first year it was just me. The next year or two they added two other kids who I didn’t think were all that smart.
In 6th grade, they took the 3 of us and shipped us across town to another elementary school where they “centralized” us into a whole classroom of gifted kids from all 6 elementary schools in the district and had 2 teachers for about 20 students. We had access to the first TRS-80 in the district in 1982.
It was the gifted kids that typically were in the “honors” classes back then since my district didn’t have “AP” classes at the time. (Not sure when that nonsense started.) But we were also the ones who were typically in the Olympics of the Mind competitions in High School, later renamed to Odyssey of the Mind because of trademark or something stupid like that.
The only useful thing that came out of that was that my team of three invented the predecessor of the modern drone in 1988. We were challenged to make a device that could hover and pick things up and drop them off on a course, and ours was exactly designed like a modern drone except that it was wired to our remote and had some helium balloons for neutral buoyancy.
Of that team of 3, one kid is now dead of suicide and I think the other is a doctor, while I’m just an average IT worker.
CIA….you failed.
LingOL! I was part of a group of four kids who were pulled out of class in the 1970s and sent to the "computer lab." (It was legit a storage closet with one giant computer.) There was no teacher, no instruction, no worksheets, no beverages... just "play with the computer." It was AWESOME hahahaha.
This stuff is well known. There was even a documentary about it on the TV. I think it was called The Men Who Stare at Goats. On this side of the Atlantic, MI6 always claimed they never had anything to do with it, but a friend of mine knew a guy who was involved with MI6 during WW2, and he persuaded my friend to try his out of body stuff. My friend suffered from serious mental problems as a result, and realised that his only salvation lay in committing his life to the Lord Jesus Christ. He was saved, and had no more mental problems. He even became a vicar.
I was in an enrichment program! 😳 But it was in the 70s. 😅 Is it weird to be disappointed to not have been brainwashed?! 🤔
😂
I guess that’s where the show “Stranger Things” got its story line from.
Never once seen it but apparently so (judging from comments here)!
I voted unsure because I didn't think tomfoolery was quite accurate. Gov. has no right to use people, esp children, without consent and accountability. Monsters.
I am older than the programs discussed here, but us seniors also have our suspicions about memory gapes and general weirdness.
I'm old enough that when I was in school they just had you skip grades if you were considered above the class average. I skipped one and my sister skipped 2. My son was in GATE in the 90's in California but I don't remember any strange pink liquids or binaural beat headphones and they had their own classes all day, not leaving to go anywhere, so maybe the experiments were more around DC areas. I totally believe that it happened though.
Yes, I skipped second grade in 1972 or 73.
Just waiting on the declassification, so true. Is there where McDonald's got its "pink slime"?? And yes, I was LOLing the cartoon ... thanks for the mammaries ... must obey now :-)
I do not know where the material for your columns comes from, and my usual reaction is “WHY am I always the last to know this stuff!” And by that you’ll know I was NOT one of those gifted kids (but both my boys were in the Advanced Placement programs from kindergarten through high school. (That last part is just plain bragging. 😉)
LingOL!!! (My 23YO daughter tipped me off to this one... it was all she was seeing on social media. I hadn't seen it at all, which is proof algorithms are real...)
"Today we voluntarily hand Silicon Valley every heartbeat, Google search, grocery purchase, and late-night Amazon impulse buy."
Looking forward to reading a Step-by-Step, someday, for the WEAN OFF of this.
For some reason, this story is reminding me of the joke from 4th grade about "Kamikaze School." An instructor is explaining the basics of the "tactic" to a roomful of hard-found volunteers: essentially, pilot an unarmed bomb into an enemy asset and die for the emperor. "Questions?", he added, at the end. "Yes, you in the back..." The response (and you have to scream it): "You out of you FOKKEEN mine?!!!"
This happened in America, and back in the 1950s. Much has changed, but I'm having fun picturing at least ONE kid, a sweet little girl maybe, in this program demanding an answer to that question from "the handlers."
It strikes me that the current "education system" has been doing the same thing, in broad daylight, with parental compliance, in pushing the trans-and-other shites.
I was a GT kid all through school. In TX I always heard it referred to as GT, not GATE. But I will say - I have very few childhood memories! I always just thought it was my brain keeping things under lock & file, but now I'm wondering! I want to say I don't remember anything nefarious, but then I realized - I don't remember much, just brief glimpses of an otherwise happy & loving childhood!
My sister has always said her son (now early 30s) has NO childhood memories. When I was researching this I texted her like OMG WAS HE IN GATE? Of course, yes he was...
Same but in CO. I don’t have many childhood memories either, but mine was shitty and traumatic so it’s possible I really did lock those away. Still, it makes me wonder.