Great questions for the pro-poke crowd. The issue is that they won't think through the logic. That is why they continue to get boosters while they watch the boosted catch and spread covid. Why they now support wars, are against green vehicles because of Elon and are against womens rights. They are not thinking for themselves. They are controlled by the puppet masters.
This is so painfully true. So far in my “won’t back down from vax/boosters/liberal bs” faction of our family we have 3 heart attacks, 4 with various cancers (1 turbo brain cancer, 1 stomach, 1 prostate, 1 liver) 1 - 23 yr old nephew with an unidentified illness that is leaving him skin and bones, 2 newly trans nephews, one claims he’s a witch. This is what I am aware of. But those of us who are unvaxxed, skeptical and suspected Trump voters are the problem and “the haters”
I have similar statistics, though they will all deny it was the vax that gave them symptoms that were even listed in the vaccine insert with double digit percentages!
I have lost two friends from 'complications'. One in-law paralyzed in the chair the first time and went back for a second months later and got an immune suppressor before the shot so she wouldn't be paralyzed the second time. Not sure what she thought she was accomplishing by disabling her immune system... Two other family members hospitalized. One on two occasions exactly 2 weeks from the injection. We didn't even know she got the shot until she was at the hospital and were trying to figure out what caused her problems and requested her vax records. The other hospitalized with rash and lung problems and I told my wife she must have gotten the shot on the 7th of the month (14 days before) based on her symptoms. When we finally asked, she said it was on the 6th, but still believe it has nothing to do with it and got her daughter the shot a month later. Mass Formation Psychosis.
Anecdotally I feel I'm in a similar boat - maybe not quite as intense as you have described. How best to connect those dots (vax/boosters -> AEs) within a wide swath of the pro-pokers is beyond me. The pro-pokers have very clean, excellently washed brains!
My husband is 1 of 12 children - we have a large family spread out across the nation. Split down the middle between the squeaky clean brains and not-so-much brains. I feel we pull a fairly accurate population sample. It is heartbreaking 💔 on so many levels.
I have a theory that this is all part of a test in an intentional culling of the population. Propose ridiculous things and make them popular and only the wise will survive. We know the WEF agenda is to reduce the worlds population. With the automation revolution there are less people required to run society (Gates calls them useless eaters). We don't want to admit that such an evil plan exists, but it has pretty much already been admitted to.
I am hopeful that the MAHA agenda marks the end of the 'survival test' (at least this one). The damage has been done. The evil doers that implemented the plan (not the planners) will be exposed and removed from society. I wish that I wasn't so fond of so many un-wise people.
The perfect example of how the ruling class uses the Overton window to manipulate us to give up our freedoms. Sending you lots of love as you and your family move into another exciting phase of your lives!
Yep. 100%. In other vax news, my wife just informed me of another Cleveland Clinic study showing massive negative efficacy, this time for the flu vax. There's a sweet, sweet 27% INCREASE in flu if y'allz get the flu vax. Lol.
You state, “Even if Jack’s vaccine protected Jill—which it does not—is it ethical or appropriate to sacrifice one child to save another?” For me it was all unacceptable before anyone received the statistically high Covid shot because all vaccines required gold standard testing using healthy pre born Jack to be aborted (killed) to create the vaccine to that would in theory protect Jill from “fill in the blank childhood illness.” In reality we have been swimming with dead children for a very long time. Does it really matter what the body count is? We have a very barbaric pharmaceutical industry. JMHO. Thanks for another good analogy Jenna. Cry buckets when you say goodbye to child. Things will never be the same. ❤️
Yes, we’ve not only been swimming with dead bodies— or at least fragments thereof, bodies have been swimming in our veins since the first childhood vax.
BOTH sexes of aborted babies are used. What could go wrong?!? Gender confusion, anyone? And if you inject fragmented body cells of aborted babies, along with alcohol, formaldehyde, polysorbates which breach the blood brain barrier, etc., HOW does the body know to mount defenses against say, polio but NOT mount defenses against —- the body?
issues are through the roof in our species and pets. You know, the species we vax.
Laura, may I assume you are being facetious? Big Pharma made over 90 billion dollars in profits from the "vaccines." Money talks, and there is no way all those pharma-funded politicians (Bernie being one of the biggest) are stopping the gravy train of campaign contributions. Up to 75% of legacy media's advertising revenue comes from pharmaceuticals, so they are also all on board to censor reality and to keep the cash flowing. Bobby is trying, but for the majority of the public, it's hard to admit you've been fooled.
And how many more will die or be permanently disabled. It’s beyond disgusting. My belief about the health industry has been forever changed. May their disgusting, greed driven souls rot in hell.
My friend’s brother needed a heart ablation due to afib. Went to Cleveland Clinic to schedule the procedure but they couldn’t get him in until July. When he asked them why it would take so long, they said they have so many patients having heart issues and that they couldn’t figure out if it was Covid causing all the issues or the Covid VACCINES.
The great awakening is upon us.
Safe travels home dear Jenna. What a bittersweet time in your lives. 🥰
“Safe and effective” is political language intended to lull to sleep those who refuse to look behind the curtain at the death and destruction. Healthy babies have died for the creation of vaccines on the false premise of saving other babies.
"Correlation does not equal causation." Vaccines are the only area where this is the dogma. Correlation is how they conclude all the other medical and scientific facts. Example: "In this experiment 90% of the patients got better so this drug is effective." And as you pointed out, in the past they withdrew the vax when enough people died and we hit that threshold many years ago now. So the vax genocide is intentional, based on results.
As attorney Jeff Childers says, correlation is not “proof” of causation, but it IS “evidence” of causation. And proof is decided by a preponderance of the evidence.
"Correlation does not equal causation." - no it doesn't, but it's a pretty damn big hint! Cripes I can't count the number of times this has been said to me.
Still, I take my supplements, I remain very healthy... correlation may not equal causation but I'm happy to continue my healthy lifestyle.
The funny thing is, you can throw "correlation isn't causation" right back at them re. the supposed "effectiveness" of the vaxx. The classic with this is the claim, Yeah, well, I got covid, but it would have been so much worse without the vaxx! Since we don't have a time machine, and such a person can't go back, get UN-vaxxed, then get covid, we must assume here that they're full of bull doo-doo.
yeah, that 'would have been worse' nonsense is just insane. I asked one friend, after her saying that, 'how could you know that?' and they completely blew me off, insisting it was a stupid question. (well cuz the commercial on the TV told me so, is the only possible answer). doesn't matter that she's had covid 3 times. but funny how me & my sons (age 19 & 21), no jab, no covid. no colds nor flu. no cardiac issues, no cancer, no diabetes...
This gets me NUTS. Basically every single person I know who's gotten it says that. And they are silenced when I say well, we got it and it passed easily and quickly. So......
my boys both had pink eye for like 1.5 days, back in the fall of '22. somebody asked me if we 'tested' for covid. uh... its pink eye. if covid is all of a sudden, pink eye, then what the hell are are actually looking at here??? massive BS, obviously. maybe my son's Athlete's Foot is covid too ;)
Also - I had this. I remember feeling a tiny bit under the weather and my crazy friend was like, did you test for Covid? And I was thinking, why the f would I...??? Like even if it were it doesn't change how I'd be treating it???
They’re still testing for covid. Talked to a woman the other day, we had been glamping and were at the dump station on the way out. Anyway I remarked about what a beautiful area this is and she agreed that it was but unfortunately she got sick the first night. But ‘luckily it wasn’t covid’. That’s why she wasn’t helping her husband, lol! She was sitting in the cab of the truck. 🤣
It is so NOT ok to force vaccines or any other medical intervention on a human. Never. Not ever!
I was blessed in 2022 to join the People’s Convoy in Lupton AZ for a minute…. just after hearing Mr. Ramirez’ story of losing his teen son to jammed in (take the thing or you can’t play with us) myocarditis! Jr. died! Mr. Ramirez cried and fights to this day.
Drove 4 hours in the wee hours thru Tonto National Forrest to hear the Navajo Chief speak to encourage the Truckers to keep fighting this - it’s the right fight!
And who would know better than an Indian Chief just how tyrannical the government, if left unchecked will be.
When the Biden/Harris admin forced them I abandoned all hope that these were scientifically supported shots. I was glad I was retired so nobody could force me to be a guinea pig. Nor would I go to restaurants that demanded proof of vax. Flu and covid shots? No thanks.
Didn’t I recently read somewhere that 2 million American children have been given the most recent clot shot? What are these parents thinking? Are these the people who want illegal aliens to remain in America? Are they the same people who think 3 year olds can choose their sex? Are they the people who keyed Teslas less than a year after buying one? If they are the same people who want AOC for president, then I guess I see why they expose their kids to mRNA shots.
Almost every single one of my kids' friends have gotten it every year. We live in a very blue area needless to say. It's heartbreaking to watch and I DON'T UNDERSTAND. It's v upsetting for the kids who don't want their friends to suffer in the long run...
There is no reasoning with them. None. They are stuck in their thinking and understanding and have not done an ounce of research. Their justifications are, and always will be:
1) it works, because polio, small pox, measles
2) herd immunity through jab
3) the whole world was vaccinated, so it's a small percentage
4) the virus would have killed more if there was no jab
5) vaers is inaccurate
6) anti-vaxxers are conspiracy theorists and must be disregarded at all costs
True! They are too lazy even for the other arguments most of the time. 😂 But they do relish the "anti+vaxxer" slur. Makes them feel so righteous and superior....
I’ve had that very “death from a vaccine” conversation with a friend. Un believable. He actually was OK with a few kids dying from a polio vaccine to protect the many! “So what if it was your child who died?” I asked. No answer, just a typical shoulder shrug.
Had this conversation, preceded by "because polio" argument. Dared to offhand a number, was TOLD OFF because accuracy is important! Husband developed MS (not related to C disaster) even though they live in the cleanest part of Oz and he was a professional bee-keeper) still no budging. Go figure!
I have a zero acceptance rate for forced medical interventions--with or without associated deaths.
Exactly. ANY medical intervention.
Great questions for the pro-poke crowd. The issue is that they won't think through the logic. That is why they continue to get boosters while they watch the boosted catch and spread covid. Why they now support wars, are against green vehicles because of Elon and are against womens rights. They are not thinking for themselves. They are controlled by the puppet masters.
This is so painfully true. So far in my “won’t back down from vax/boosters/liberal bs” faction of our family we have 3 heart attacks, 4 with various cancers (1 turbo brain cancer, 1 stomach, 1 prostate, 1 liver) 1 - 23 yr old nephew with an unidentified illness that is leaving him skin and bones, 2 newly trans nephews, one claims he’s a witch. This is what I am aware of. But those of us who are unvaxxed, skeptical and suspected Trump voters are the problem and “the haters”
I have similar statistics, though they will all deny it was the vax that gave them symptoms that were even listed in the vaccine insert with double digit percentages!
I have lost two friends from 'complications'. One in-law paralyzed in the chair the first time and went back for a second months later and got an immune suppressor before the shot so she wouldn't be paralyzed the second time. Not sure what she thought she was accomplishing by disabling her immune system... Two other family members hospitalized. One on two occasions exactly 2 weeks from the injection. We didn't even know she got the shot until she was at the hospital and were trying to figure out what caused her problems and requested her vax records. The other hospitalized with rash and lung problems and I told my wife she must have gotten the shot on the 7th of the month (14 days before) based on her symptoms. When we finally asked, she said it was on the 6th, but still believe it has nothing to do with it and got her daughter the shot a month later. Mass Formation Psychosis.
oh my gosh this is so sad :(((((
Truly heartbreaking and so hard to watch it play out 💔
Anecdotally I feel I'm in a similar boat - maybe not quite as intense as you have described. How best to connect those dots (vax/boosters -> AEs) within a wide swath of the pro-pokers is beyond me. The pro-pokers have very clean, excellently washed brains!
My husband is 1 of 12 children - we have a large family spread out across the nation. Split down the middle between the squeaky clean brains and not-so-much brains. I feel we pull a fairly accurate population sample. It is heartbreaking 💔 on so many levels.
I have a theory that this is all part of a test in an intentional culling of the population. Propose ridiculous things and make them popular and only the wise will survive. We know the WEF agenda is to reduce the worlds population. With the automation revolution there are less people required to run society (Gates calls them useless eaters). We don't want to admit that such an evil plan exists, but it has pretty much already been admitted to.
I am hopeful that the MAHA agenda marks the end of the 'survival test' (at least this one). The damage has been done. The evil doers that implemented the plan (not the planners) will be exposed and removed from society. I wish that I wasn't so fond of so many un-wise people.
Can’t possibly agree with you more.
The perfect example of how the ruling class uses the Overton window to manipulate us to give up our freedoms. Sending you lots of love as you and your family move into another exciting phase of your lives!
Yep. 100%. In other vax news, my wife just informed me of another Cleveland Clinic study showing massive negative efficacy, this time for the flu vax. There's a sweet, sweet 27% INCREASE in flu if y'allz get the flu vax. Lol.
“But we’re still gonna mandate it.
Love,
Cleveland Clinic”
LOL. Probably.
Love it, Scott. Do you have a link by any chance? That just blows away the "no efficacy" argument, doesn't it? Wow!
Hi, Will. Here's a MSM link, but what I often do these days is run a quick Grok search, and you'll get not only a summary of the answer but links.
https://abc3340.com/news/nation-world/cleveland-clinic-study-find-this-seasons-flu-shot-to-have-negative-effectiveness
You state, “Even if Jack’s vaccine protected Jill—which it does not—is it ethical or appropriate to sacrifice one child to save another?” For me it was all unacceptable before anyone received the statistically high Covid shot because all vaccines required gold standard testing using healthy pre born Jack to be aborted (killed) to create the vaccine to that would in theory protect Jill from “fill in the blank childhood illness.” In reality we have been swimming with dead children for a very long time. Does it really matter what the body count is? We have a very barbaric pharmaceutical industry. JMHO. Thanks for another good analogy Jenna. Cry buckets when you say goodbye to child. Things will never be the same. ❤️
Great point.
Yes, we’ve not only been swimming with dead bodies— or at least fragments thereof, bodies have been swimming in our veins since the first childhood vax.
BOTH sexes of aborted babies are used. What could go wrong?!? Gender confusion, anyone? And if you inject fragmented body cells of aborted babies, along with alcohol, formaldehyde, polysorbates which breach the blood brain barrier, etc., HOW does the body know to mount defenses against say, polio but NOT mount defenses against —- the body?
issues are through the roof in our species and pets. You know, the species we vax.
So true 💔
Why have they not been stopped is the 64 million dollar question.
Laura, may I assume you are being facetious? Big Pharma made over 90 billion dollars in profits from the "vaccines." Money talks, and there is no way all those pharma-funded politicians (Bernie being one of the biggest) are stopping the gravy train of campaign contributions. Up to 75% of legacy media's advertising revenue comes from pharmaceuticals, so they are also all on board to censor reality and to keep the cash flowing. Bobby is trying, but for the majority of the public, it's hard to admit you've been fooled.
And how many more will die or be permanently disabled. It’s beyond disgusting. My belief about the health industry has been forever changed. May their disgusting, greed driven souls rot in hell.
My friend’s brother needed a heart ablation due to afib. Went to Cleveland Clinic to schedule the procedure but they couldn’t get him in until July. When he asked them why it would take so long, they said they have so many patients having heart issues and that they couldn’t figure out if it was Covid causing all the issues or the Covid VACCINES.
The great awakening is upon us.
Safe travels home dear Jenna. What a bittersweet time in your lives. 🥰
They actually ADMITTED THAT???? whoa.
Shocker, right?!
My fit, crunchy hubs, 4-5x boosted, flu shot, shingles shot, the works, developed Afib not long after his boosters. Sees no correlation.
I’m so sorry KC. 😢
That's beyond sad!
SO good...don't stop writing pretty please! :)
Neverrrrrrr😊
Bless you on your daughter's graduation. It's another big step for both of you.
"Political language is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable."
- George Orwell.
“Safe and effective” is political language intended to lull to sleep those who refuse to look behind the curtain at the death and destruction. Healthy babies have died for the creation of vaccines on the false premise of saving other babies.
"Correlation does not equal causation." Vaccines are the only area where this is the dogma. Correlation is how they conclude all the other medical and scientific facts. Example: "In this experiment 90% of the patients got better so this drug is effective." And as you pointed out, in the past they withdrew the vax when enough people died and we hit that threshold many years ago now. So the vax genocide is intentional, based on results.
As attorney Jeff Childers says, correlation is not “proof” of causation, but it IS “evidence” of causation. And proof is decided by a preponderance of the evidence.
"Correlation does not equal causation." - no it doesn't, but it's a pretty damn big hint! Cripes I can't count the number of times this has been said to me.
Still, I take my supplements, I remain very healthy... correlation may not equal causation but I'm happy to continue my healthy lifestyle.
The funny thing is, you can throw "correlation isn't causation" right back at them re. the supposed "effectiveness" of the vaxx. The classic with this is the claim, Yeah, well, I got covid, but it would have been so much worse without the vaxx! Since we don't have a time machine, and such a person can't go back, get UN-vaxxed, then get covid, we must assume here that they're full of bull doo-doo.
yeah, that 'would have been worse' nonsense is just insane. I asked one friend, after her saying that, 'how could you know that?' and they completely blew me off, insisting it was a stupid question. (well cuz the commercial on the TV told me so, is the only possible answer). doesn't matter that she's had covid 3 times. but funny how me & my sons (age 19 & 21), no jab, no covid. no colds nor flu. no cardiac issues, no cancer, no diabetes...
This gets me NUTS. Basically every single person I know who's gotten it says that. And they are silenced when I say well, we got it and it passed easily and quickly. So......
my boys both had pink eye for like 1.5 days, back in the fall of '22. somebody asked me if we 'tested' for covid. uh... its pink eye. if covid is all of a sudden, pink eye, then what the hell are are actually looking at here??? massive BS, obviously. maybe my son's Athlete's Foot is covid too ;)
Also - I had this. I remember feeling a tiny bit under the weather and my crazy friend was like, did you test for Covid? And I was thinking, why the f would I...??? Like even if it were it doesn't change how I'd be treating it???
Let me get this straight. Your boys had Pinkeye and you didn't put them on Paxlovid? Are you CRAZY? 😂
They’re still testing for covid. Talked to a woman the other day, we had been glamping and were at the dump station on the way out. Anyway I remarked about what a beautiful area this is and she agreed that it was but unfortunately she got sick the first night. But ‘luckily it wasn’t covid’. That’s why she wasn’t helping her husband, lol! She was sitting in the cab of the truck. 🤣
Isn't it amazing how we are so much healthier? Hmm... I wonder what could be the reason for that? {grin}
Bull doo-doo is in abundance for the past five years!
enough to fertilized the world!
And there is the relative ratio versus actual ratio... 90% of patients never got better... as we all know by now...😉
It is so NOT ok to force vaccines or any other medical intervention on a human. Never. Not ever!
I was blessed in 2022 to join the People’s Convoy in Lupton AZ for a minute…. just after hearing Mr. Ramirez’ story of losing his teen son to jammed in (take the thing or you can’t play with us) myocarditis! Jr. died! Mr. Ramirez cried and fights to this day.
Drove 4 hours in the wee hours thru Tonto National Forrest to hear the Navajo Chief speak to encourage the Truckers to keep fighting this - it’s the right fight!
And who would know better than an Indian Chief just how tyrannical the government, if left unchecked will be.
The deep wisdom those peoples have is unimaginable. Thank you for sharing that experience!
When the Biden/Harris admin forced them I abandoned all hope that these were scientifically supported shots. I was glad I was retired so nobody could force me to be a guinea pig. Nor would I go to restaurants that demanded proof of vax. Flu and covid shots? No thanks.
Didn’t I recently read somewhere that 2 million American children have been given the most recent clot shot? What are these parents thinking? Are these the people who want illegal aliens to remain in America? Are they the same people who think 3 year olds can choose their sex? Are they the people who keyed Teslas less than a year after buying one? If they are the same people who want AOC for president, then I guess I see why they expose their kids to mRNA shots.
Almost every single one of my kids' friends have gotten it every year. We live in a very blue area needless to say. It's heartbreaking to watch and I DON'T UNDERSTAND. It's v upsetting for the kids who don't want their friends to suffer in the long run...
9 million, per CHD! A crime! What kind of future will they have to look forward to?
There is no reasoning with them. None. They are stuck in their thinking and understanding and have not done an ounce of research. Their justifications are, and always will be:
1) it works, because polio, small pox, measles
2) herd immunity through jab
3) the whole world was vaccinated, so it's a small percentage
4) the virus would have killed more if there was no jab
5) vaers is inaccurate
6) anti-vaxxers are conspiracy theorists and must be disregarded at all costs
It usually goes " because polio", that's it. Unmovable.
True! They are too lazy even for the other arguments most of the time. 😂 But they do relish the "anti+vaxxer" slur. Makes them feel so righteous and superior....
I’ve had that very “death from a vaccine” conversation with a friend. Un believable. He actually was OK with a few kids dying from a polio vaccine to protect the many! “So what if it was your child who died?” I asked. No answer, just a typical shoulder shrug.
Had this conversation, preceded by "because polio" argument. Dared to offhand a number, was TOLD OFF because accuracy is important! Husband developed MS (not related to C disaster) even though they live in the cleanest part of Oz and he was a professional bee-keeper) still no budging. Go figure!