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Laura Kasner's avatar

The first step toward reconciliation is the acknowledgment of wrong doing.

And it is up to us to give grace. God’s word tells us to forgive - seventy times seven.

It does not tell us to forget.

Excellent post Jenna. ❤️

Juju's avatar
Aug 3Edited

People go on and on here and in C&C about how forgiveness is commanded, but it’s more for you than who you are forgiving. I have always believed the latter is wrong. It’s used as a coping mechanism when the person inflicting the injustice refuses to admit it. It’s great on a Hallmark card though. It makes the one forgiving pious. “I did it for myself”. Well, if you carry that deep of hate and vitriol for the one who hurt you, then maybe you do need to do it for yourself, but it’s not forgiveness until the other person recognizes it’s needed. It’s something else, maybe even healthy, but forgiveness is a circle.

In the Bible, and with Jesus, forgiveness is requires acceptance. The fact that He forgave us while we were still sinners is not what gets us eternity with Him, it’s the acceptance of that forgiveness. That’s when it is complete. When there is acknowledgement it is needed. Forgiving while we are still sinners is His state of heart and deep love for us. It’s the state we should keep our own hearts ready with.

My daughter has hurt me deeply. She knows it. She has been told. She is a Wayward Son, who decided to trash my character and name along the way. In my heart I see her walking up my driveway and myself running full speed to embrace her, in tears of joy for seeing her. My heart is ready. But that is not happening. Last I spoke to her the conditions for having a relationship with her was I had to accept her lies about me, be ok with them, validate them, accept that it was my duty to love her and let her do whatever she wanted without shame, and watch her have a mother-daughter relationship with one of the most jealous women in our family who stabbed me in the back, sabotaged my relationship with my daughter, and lied about our little family to everybody. Who caused me great pain in the face of my continued grace with them. It is not a lack of forgiveness that causes me to speak these truths. I would complete the forgiveness cycle with her too. But the outward expression of full forgiveness REQUIRES acceptance of it, and acceptance of it REQUIRES admission. Until then there is no repair of the relationship. I can be accused of an unforgiving heart if the people who hurt me come up my driveway and I slam the door in their face. As a matter of fact they have all done that to me when I took responsibility for my part.

Not accepting Stephen’s apology is doing just that. It’s slamming the door in his face. I get it. I understand the deep anger. But embrace him and use him to reach others rather than destroy the public knowledge of how Christianity is understood. We don’t lie down and allow others to walk on us, but we also don’t slam doors in people’s faces. Everybody misunderstands Jesus and Christianity.

Stephen A Smith acknowledged the need for forgiveness and apologized in the single most powerful way he could. It wasn’t flippant either. That matters. Flippant, meaningless, empty hearted apologies won’t cut it. Discernment does demand that we listen carefully to how someone is apologizing. He was authentic. No matter how ugly and wrong he was, he is doing his part of the circle of forgiveness and NOW we must emulate Jesus and show the outward acts of forgiveness, by accepting his apology. That’s how it works. THAT’S what Jesus did.

Jenna is right. If we aren’t forgiving when we really are supposed to, then what does that reflect about our faith and what people believe Jesus teaches? How can we expect more to find the courage to apologize and mean it?

Jenna McCarthy's avatar

I'm so sorry for you, Juju. I pray your daughter comes around and applaud your attitude. XOXO

Kalinda's avatar

Needs more likes. You can accept who/what people are, you don't have to "forgive" them. Who are we to "forgive" someone who does not seek our forgiveness? IMO, the word has been twisted.

When one seeks forgiveness: Acknowledge, Apologize, make Amends. I give Stephen A. Smith full kudos for not only admitting he was wrong and apologizing for it, but for stating "I need to do better. I'm not alone, but I'm responsible for me. I need to do better. And I will."

CStone's avatar

I agree, Juju. Same here with my DIL. But I have, in my heart, forgiven her. I pray for her constantly, as I ALWAYS have. The onus for her receiving forgiveness is now on her. I don’t feel pious about it though. I just feel free.

I have forgiven her, it is available as soon as she asks for it.

If you take the blame when you are NOT to blame, those people will then say “See? It was her/him!”

Yeshua did forgive us BEFORE we ever repented. But it was up to us to repent, and then we found out it was available all along.

Mercy is an amazing mystery to me.

Humans would have never thought of mercy as a concept, much less as a reality. And boy, has HE been merciful to this old gal.

Teri McGiffert's avatar

Juju, how awful that your daughter has hurt you so deeply. It’s so unjust, so unfair. I’m sorry. I’ve heard it said that carrying unforgiveness towards someone is like drinking poison and expecting it to kill that person. It doesn’t work that way, does it?

Dena's avatar

So sorry to hear of your daughter & family’s behavior toward you Juju. So unfair & cruel. Your statement: “But the outward expression of full forgiveness REQUIRES acceptance of it, and acceptance of it REQUIRES admission “ is so true & insightful. Your heart seems ready & willing, but the perpetrators have a responsibility too in order to close the circle of forgiveness.

Laura Kasner's avatar

Juju - your story is heartbreaking. My prayers go out to you 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

Graphite 🇨🇦's avatar

Not 'acceptance' - repentance!

Karmy's avatar

I’m so sorry Juju that your daughter has hurt you.

I always think of the Lord’s Prayer. “Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us”

As difficult as it is for us to forgive those who’ve done us wrong, we must show grace to others if we expect God to give us His grace.

I hope that your daughter comes around and realizes the damage she did to the woman who gave her birth and loved her.

I pray that it is so.

Leslie Murphree's avatar

Love this Jenna. The Lord is working on my ♥️ because since evil Fauci & his fifths disease has brought up memories like this all happened yesterday. My sis is right. The Bible is our foundation. We don’t have to like it but it definitely can make our lives better if we choose to follow Gods word. Forgive not easy but asked of us. but forgetting the Lord does not mention. Forgiveness 70 times 7

Laura Kasner's avatar

“Fifths disease”. Awesome sarcasm Sissy! 😂🤣😂

Meddling Kid's avatar

Laura, let’s understand that this monumental call to forgiveness was directed at his brother “in Christ” as they were just talking about Church discipline escalation for sins among the believers. Then the following parable talks about forgiveness of debts among like slaves.

We are not talking about unbelievers or enemies, which in this case includes all of the government agents, media talking heads, democrats en masse, or morons on Facebook/bluesky/twattle who wished us dead.

CStone's avatar

Matthew 5:44-46

Yeshua said

But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Even the tax collectors do the same, don’t they?

Laura Kasner's avatar

Perfect scripture choice, CStone.

Meddling Kid's avatar

Love…yes.

Forgive…no.

“Forgive us our debts/trespasses as we forgive our debtors/those who trespass against us.”

Does God forgive the unrepentant?

Does God forgive the unbelievers?

Only perhaps in the Unitarian Universalist “church”, but not in any of the Bible versions that I’ve ever read.

If He did, then they would be sinless and go to Heaven, and the path would not just be wide, it would be impossible to fall off of.

I feel that I’m loving them by not relentlessly mocking them with the facts. If anything, I’m doing the loving thing by not withholding the truth from them so they might one day open their eyes and see like Stephen Smith did.

If He doesn’t forgive without repentance, neither am I called to do so.

CStone's avatar

He did forgive us on the cross.

“While we were yet in sin, Yeshua died for the ungodly.”

He forgave us before we knew we even needed it.

Also. In order to be forgiven, according to the verse you posted, we must FIRST, forgive

MaryAnn's avatar

We forgive so that we can heal. It isn’t about the other person.

My experience: I told my ex (husb of 30 yrs who walked out) I forgave him—after a few years of relentless nagging from The Holy Spirit of course.

My ex looked at me as if I were nuts. He had not asked to be forgiven and I acknowledeged that. I told him I was doing it for me, not for him, which got me another look of incredulity. 😂

CStone's avatar

I agree. That’s why HE tells us to forgive, even if they have not repented, because bitterness can take root, and when it does it can destroy us.

Meddling Kid's avatar

We have different interpretations. Jesus wasn’t forgiving the entirety of human population on the cross, He was forgiving those who put Him there because He knew it was part of God’s secret plan.

But Him accepting that fate provided the path for US.

The context is critical. In Jesus’ own words…

“Be on your guard. If your brother sins, rebuke him, and if he repents, forgive him. And if he sins against you seven times in a day, and comes back to you seven times, saying, ‘I repent,’ you must forgive him.””

‭‭Luke‬ ‭17‬:‭3‬-‭4‬ ‭CSB‬‬

If He had meant for us to forgive everyone for everything, there is no difference between believers and non-believers. He would not have said brother, He would have said “anyone” to make it clear.

If anything, that would make sin against believers MORE common because they would be forgiven, whereas sin by non-believers against other non-believers would not be.

Love is not the same as forgiveness.

Amy's avatar

How are you defining forgiveness?

Nobody is saying that forgiveness precludes or prevents legal or other consequences. So the consequences for unbelievers are no different than for followers of Jesus. At least not consequences in the human realm.

Erika's avatar

Jesus forgave all on the Cross true, but previously He said the road was narrow and many would not walk it. He acknowledged that in order to receive His gift of forgiveness you had to accept it. The main part of accepting it was repenting. Jesus stands with the gift of forgiveness in hand, but if we won’t meet Him with repentance in our hearts we cannot receive His gift. If our right hand holds our sins and our left hand holds our pride, how are we to receive His gift of forgiveness—if our hands (hearts & souls) are full? If we’re carrying around a bucket full of poison (sin & unrepentance), Jesus cannot fill our bucket with His Grace and Forgiveness. Jesus spoke to the rich young man saying he was righteous, but unless he gave up everything he would not find salvation. Since the young man had many riches, he turned away saddened. This story emphasizes that we must *do* something before we are saved. It’s not enough to be righteous, we must also empty ourselves of our sins, pride, and selfishness in order to receive the gift of God’s Grace. Almost every time Jesus healed someone, He said ‘go and sin no more’. When He couldn’t heal anyone in His own hometown, it was because they couldn’t accept His gift because their hearts were hardened and they saw Him just as Mary & Joseph’s son, not the Messiah. Where there is no faith there is no repentance and there is no salvation.

Meddling Kid's avatar

Also, consider Jesus’ own words strongly above all others. Look at this version of the same 7×70 in Matthew with the extra verse as compared to Luke’s version. It doesn’t just say to forgive a repentant brother, it says avoid the unrepentant if even the church body can’t sway them. And that unrepentant BELIEVERS should be treated the same as pagans and tax collectors…AVOIDED!!!

Now you might say how do we reach unbelievers if we are avoiding them? This is the difference between daily life and “missions”. Missions for Christ are no different than missions for the military. Planned, strategic, supplied, focused. In enemy territory, with caution.

Amy's avatar

CStone couldn't have said it better.

We are called to live in a posture of forgiveness.

It is not easy. But it is the way of Jesus.

Forgiveness does not equal forgetting. It does not negate consequences. It does allow us to let God have the final judgement. And it frees us from the load of chronic anger and resentment.

CStone's avatar

I’m guessing Calvinist doctrines teaching predestination is the reason some believe the way they do.

Meddling Kid's avatar

It may, but predestination is wholly incompatible with free will. And eliminating free will makes us robots with no point of existing. God having foreknowledge is not the same as predestination, but rather it’s a facet unique to Him because He is outside of space and time as we know it.

In other words, no matter what you or I or Adam or your descendants 100 years from now (God willing) think about free will or predestination, God already knows the end from the beginning. But believing in predestination is self-defeating, more likely to make some give up if they think they are not among the elect, rather than to increase their faith. I’m guessing from your response that you agree, against predestination. Though by grace, some of us were born into families and communities that taught us His Word. Others in the world were gifted this knowledge through dreams (from God) or missionaries they opened their ears to.

Therefore I choose to believe wholeheartedly in free will as the only viable option to winning over us Gentiles and eventually some Jews with hardened hearts. Not all born in Christ-centered families choose Him, not all having dreams seek Him, not all hearing missionaries follow Him. Therein lies free will.

I’m not entirely certain whether salvation can be gained and then lost, but otherwise I think the Arminian arguments are much stronger.

Amy's avatar

Sorry, I am not completely following your line of thought connecting some comments on forgiveness to Calvinism/Reformed theology. 🤔

Lori's avatar

Indeed Laura. I have to think long and hard where I stand on this. I will never forget but I am not yet sure I am mature enough in my Christian journey to yet forgive. I am trying but tis a very hard pill to swallow especially when you do not see any other well known person doing what Smith did.

Laura Kasner's avatar

It is a journey Lori. And our flesh wins out often. Pray that your heart is not hardened. And I will too. 😘❤️🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

Lori's avatar

Most definitely!

DJL's avatar

I’m still waiting for people to apologize to me for their bad behavior simply because I was trying to point out the obvious lies, inconsistencies, and crimes against humanity. But you know, ….pride. I’ll be waiting a while I guess

Jenna McCarthy's avatar

Believe me, same. A former colleague told me that when I got Covid, she prayed that I would die at home and not take a hospital bed from someone who had “done the right thing.“ I fantasize about that apology probably more than is healthy.

Gwyneth's avatar

This begs the question of if someone had "done the right thing", why would they need a hospital bed?

DJL's avatar

Unbelievable. Who wishes that upon anyone. The world lost its mind. My sister-in-law attacked me and said some really hateful things. But the only reason she apologized is because my husband, her brother, told her if she didn’t that she would never see him or his children ever again. So she didn’t actually apologize because she knew she was wrong because she knew what she had said to me was the most hateful of things. She just apologized because my husband told her too.

Laura Kasner's avatar

I have a very similar story DJL.

Giving her grace has been very difficult for me.

But I am grateful for these challenges. They make us better people.

KatWarrior's avatar

I have a story which I wish I could forget, but that is and has been impossible. It involves my mum and it’s awful to even think about it today, but I have to live with it for the rest of my life.

The details are horrific, and all due to my decision to not take the poison bioweapon. Mum passed (was euthanized) September 8, 2022 in a Canadian hospital. We hadn’t spoken one word to each other since mid-October 2021.

The ramifications of the plandemic were and are catastrophic. Obviously, I don’t need to list them out for any of you!

Moral of the story:

1. I have never, ever regretted my decision.

2. In my heart, I have forgiven mum because she drank the entire party jugs of kool-aid. All 25 of them!

3. What I struggle with to this day is the hate and sheer vitriol that was spewed at me.

4. Forbearance is necessary for me to move on with my life, so I forgive, but I don’t forget.

God asks us to forgive those who have wronged us, but He never asks that we forget. That would be a very unwise decision.

Jenna McCarthy's avatar

[*huge virtual hug*]

MS's avatar

100 percent agree with this - forgive but never forget!

Augusto F. Menezes's avatar

I like to think that those who have transitioned now know the truth. We will have a good conversation with them when we join them in the next realm 🙏

Teri McGiffert's avatar

It’s not possible for us humans to forget. That’s one of the things that makes forgiveness so beautiful.

JudyC's avatar

I’m so sorry, Kat. I just don’t have words to tell you how sorry I am!

KatWarrior's avatar

Thank you, JudyC! 💕

Truth is, we all have similar unfortunate stories of betrayal and it cuts to the bone.

Jenna’s “friend” who wished she would die! Who the feck says shite like that!????

Fortunately, we move on and move forward. We live and find joy with new friends and become a bit wiser, and hopefully choose well.

Viktor Frankl said people who survived in the death camps suffered the unimaginable and found meaning to live. Those who gave up and perished lacked meaning to live.

I wake up every day and find meaning to my life.

Laura Kasner's avatar

Your story is heartbreaking Kat. 😢🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

SHug's avatar

Forgive but never forget, indeed. Sending you {HUGS} today Kat.

Those who install our reaction buttons in the first place have ability to wound us so deeply. I have to wonder how often she thought about/regretted the things she said to you, especially once she was on her way out and knew she'd not get another chance to change things.

KatWarrior's avatar

I know how they killed mum. It was a simple protocol that was used in UK and Canada and is well documented.

SHug, our relationship was always rife with shite, but this threw it into another realm. I wish we both had a chance to talk, but it was not going to happen. I could not travel to Canada because I refused the poison. I suppose I could have obtained a fake vaxx card (which everyone I know who could, DID!) to travel, but she was euthanized within hours of entering the hospital, so it would not have made any difference.

I know things that I shouldn't know and mum was so bitter the last year of her life. If I am honest with myself which I believe I am, it ended the way it was supposed to, sadly. Mum believed all the nonsense and I tried to let her know that I loved her in spite of her behaviour.

KatWarrior's avatar

I have to always remember that my awakening was just a few years ago, and it was an avalanche of truth at the time. BUT, my journey hasn’t stopped since the flood gates opened!

Mr. Smith may be beginning his journey. Who knows?

Invite those who at least admit they were wrong. We don’t know the outcome, but we won’t if the invitation isn’t given!

David Nelson's avatar

Yes! Kat! It is important for each of us to remember that WE WERE NOT BORN FULL-FLEDGED WISE MEN--we too had to have our 'moments' of understanding. Let us then have patience as well to suffer others to come to theirs. (Not 85-yr-old Fauci of course: enough's enough.)

KatWarrior's avatar

Amen 🙏.

Random midget midwit morons, excluded! 💯

David Nelson's avatar

You're being only fair.

Debby's avatar

Love that man and never let go. Your husband put you first.

Maria's avatar

That is incredible! People behaved so badly! The irony is that if you caught covid you were much safer in your bed than the hospital.

Jennifer L.'s avatar

Maria, exactly right. It was the hospital protocols including Fauci’s Remdesivir (Run-death-is-near) drug that was in those protocols. I know of at least 4 people who died once they entered the hospital for Covid.

Timothy G McKenna's avatar

I’m a Covid retiree - a 40 year healthcare architect, my client in Massachusetts demanded that I still organize meetings on site and attend them.

It happens.

First, our consulting engineers refused to come. A few weeks later, the architects balked. Finally the contractors wouldn’t step on the grounds. All of the hospital’s employees stayed home but I was deemed essential and required to go to work - at least I didn’t have to deal with traffic for a few months…

The deal breaker was my final meeting - I was coordinating the design and construction of the pulmonary/respiratory care department’s new facilities and I was the only person in the room that wasn’t wearing a moon suit. The poor people were horribly overworked and running back and forth from the ER and the ICU, which were being retrofitted into negative pressure rooms to contain and manage the virus’ transmission.

That was it.

People telling me that I still had to deliver the projects and the fear that I’d bring home the virus to my wife and 8 year old daughter were enough to push me over the edge.

A 40 year career down the tubes because of the panic.

Asshats

I wanted to jump through the TV and punch Fauci (Anthony Fauci the Fifth), and I just happened to be listening to RFKJr, yesterday, and was so thrilled to see him shove Dana Bash’s crap right back down her throat!!!

Augusto F. Menezes's avatar

Hehheh! Fauci the Fifth - like that!!!

Marlene Swann's avatar

OmGOSH, Jenna! Your friend is truly the definition of self righteousness, right there! I do not blame you for the fantasy one bit!

Tim Pallies's avatar

Surely this colleague would not deny you a ventilator and Remdesivir!

Jenna McCarthy's avatar

Based on some of the other names she called me and atrocities she accused me of, she most certainly would have. Mind you, my sin at the time was sharing VAERS data and telling people where they could buy ivermectin directly from India.🤦‍♀️

Laura Kasner's avatar

One gift (and there were many) from the plandemic is it told us who our true friends were (wheat from the chaff).

My fave prose from MLK, Jr.:

“In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends" i

Augusto F. Menezes's avatar

...and if i may jump in here, it's this friend thing that got me most. Although all my rationalizations for feeling the following happened in my head, i still believe the logic mostly sound. My friend from high school, admittedly a best friend, just rejected outright my warnings. Basically i accuse him of trusting the state and not giving the person he knew his whole life, a person who was always eating right and taking supplements and avoiding standard medical care for almost as many decades as we knew each other. It made me wonder whether he knew me at all. Questioning the medical system was my thing ever since i got rid of my asthma. I proceeded to write a litany over text and explained pretty clearly that i would only respond to a direct reference to the topic between us. I have not responded to a single outreach since because he's never been able to approach the topic of vaccines. Frankly, when he reacted as he did, i felt like he was just another of the billions of people with whom i would have to watch what i could say, like i had to stay in the closet and not speak my mind, and that didn't feel like a friend. I do try to think back to times and things and ideas we shared, but still i feel no compulsion to speak with him. We need to find our people. We need to build local gatherings of this control group and meet our real, battle hardened friends

Laura Kasner's avatar

Thank you for sharing your story Augusto.

I found it impossible to continue relationships with friends where the most important issue in my life could not be discussed. The authenticity was gone. I had to relinquish those relationships. I will forever grieve the loss.

God led me to my people. I am so very grateful.

Janine Melnitz's avatar

Your former colleague is evil. The likelihood of an apology is probably zero. I remember having bad thoughts about old boyfriends and hoping they would have terminal diarrhea but I would never wish them to be dead. That is pathological.

Jenna McCarthy's avatar

My last comment before she blocked me was something like, “Wow. I’m trying to share life-saving information and you are wishing death on me. Thanks for showing me who you are.”

Doug's avatar
Aug 3Edited

By the time the Satanic Powers pulled Covid out of their Antichrist toolkit, I was used to being thought of by many as a crank. I stopped believing what the government said about nearly everything in 2005, after I'd attended a "talk" on 9/11 and the strange physics that allowed three skyscrapers to collapse at free-fall speed into their own footprint after being hit by only two planes, for the first and only time in history. I spent years trying to educate my friends and family members about the myriad inconsistencies of that day, only to be thought of as a kooky conspiracy theorist.

I was well-trained in the art of holding my Cassandrian tongue when the Trump-Fauci "vaccine" miraculously popped into existence in 2020. Even so, and as carefully as I picked among the few friends I thought intelligent enough to hear it, when I pointed out the lack of bodies by the side of the road in this "pandemic" or mentioned that I might hold off on the "miracle injection" until I saw what it did to the early adopter crowd, I met a surprising amount of turbulence in my social life.

Fifteen years I'd been praying "forgive them, Father, for they know not what they do". When I spoke openly about my observations and collected data (a spreadsheet I'd populated with our own county's Covid data) that showed that the risk of dying from Covid was actually really, really low, my old friend and bandmate Mark told me I needed to watch two years' worth of TV to catch up on what was really going on. Yes, you heard that right - what I needed was LESS research and MORE mainstream media programming. Even after six years of steady trickling of truth about Covid, Mark gets edgy around the subject.

A few weeks ago, when I told Mark that physicians were being offered monetary bonuses for jabbing patients during the pandemic and could provide documented proof of this, he told me documents could be forged. He was either calling me extremely gullible (I am not) or accusing me of being a forger myself! After he left, I spent a few hours using AI to amass the latest documents showing proof of these incentives, and came away with nearly a dozen pages. Just for my own satisfaction, of course - Mark is irritatingly fact-proof. It's amazing how much information is available just for the asking, and how few people even think to ask.

So yeah, it feels good when I hear people admitting they might have gotten a few things wrong about the most important event in our lives since 9/11. But I have to admit, my forgiveness gland is scarred and calloused after spending 21 years with my eyes wide open to the depths of depravity to which our elites are capable of dipping. If I'd slugged every idiot in the face who insisted I was dead-wrong after presenting them with well-researched facts, it would be my knuckles scarred and calloused instead. Some of them have really deserved it...

Dr Dan's avatar

Love "my forgiveness gland"

Jeff Lebowski's avatar

Creeps like this do us a favor, tho, by revealing their true selves. A greatly reduced social circle is not necessarily a bad thing.

Temcol's avatar

Wow that is the most evil and hateful thing I have heard so far. You are not colleagues now are you? This is the type of person I would cut out of my life permanently. My coworker admitted how wise I was not to get the shot now that she has long COVID. It was satisfying but I feel badly for her that she was convinced she needed it.

Dr Dan's avatar

Many medical centers have specialty clinics for "long Covid." I think they should be honest and change the name to what we refer to as a "V-injury" clinic.

Temcol's avatar

I agree. I told her that is what they are calling vaccine injured people so they don’t have to admit the shot was a killer.

HHM's avatar

Wow! I’m never surprised by what people think but often shocked by what they say. I’m sorry that happened to you. That is terrible and is actually a curse they spoke over you. I’m thankful you rejected that curse. The light of Christ shines in you Jenna.

Jenna McCarthy's avatar

I will humbly accept that compliment. :)

Michelle Herman's avatar

My god. 😳

Debby's avatar

My friend was the opposite. She cried when she couldn't convince me to take the shot. She said, "I don't want you to die." My poor, brainwashed friend. She has had several boosters, and is one of the few people I know who didn't get Covid. She thinks the shot saved her, but she didn't go out for over a year because of her three autoimmune diseases.

Reader East of Albuquerque's avatar

Every single person I know who said such morally moronic crap has now taken multiple jabs and is now dead or suffering from some dreadful ailment. I wish for them grace and healing— and for some that will have to be in the Hereafter.

On this planet of I don't know how many billions of people, the Kool-Aid sadists are not very interesting to me, I'm glad that I know what I know about them and therefore need not waste a moment more on them. I have better people and better things to spend my time on. That would include (lol) Jenna McCarthy's comments section.

All that said, I get it, it was shocking some of the things close friends and family said, I will never forget it, not for as long as I live.

PEL's avatar

People lost their minds. And their humanity.

Secret Squirrel's avatar

No way. That is too horrible to imagine. Have you spoken with that colleague since?

The Inmate's avatar

I'm fine with sincere apologies. I'm fine with forgiveness. But mercy and grace do not necessarily mean there are no consequences. There should be consequences for millions worldwide who fired people, destroyed businesses that took a lifetime to establish and who called for the jailing, ridicule and 2nd class status of the unvaccinated.

There must be severe consequences for those responsible for the adverse events and deaths of millions who got vaccinated regardless of sincere, heartfelt apologies. Accept the apology, but never forget and honor those who refused to submit, not with words, but actions so severe this bullshit never happens again.

Unfortunately...I don't expect that to happen.

Lori's avatar

BOOM! Drop the mic.

Joe's avatar

I am absolutely shocked. I listen to espn in the background most work days and have argued under my breath with Steven A for years. I've called him every derogatory name in the book as he vomited nonsense from his scripted narrative.

Given what I know about espn and their absolutely woke culture I'm thrilled they have to deal with one of their most popular characters swimming upstream.

Unfortunately, I've been out of town the last few days and have not had an opportunity to hear, If or how, they've responded. Bottom line is it's good to see someone who leans left, actually dig into the details enough to realize that maybe he was simply wrong.God what a refreshing thought.

Jenna McCarthy's avatar

That’s my hubby, y’all. ⬆️💘

Jpeach's avatar

Stephen Smith is just a loud barking mini dog (and I’m a sports guy). I want apologies and accountability from doctors and healthcare experts. These are the pathetic, greedy, egomaniacs who convinced normal people to take the Vax and keep getting boosted. How many millions did these “doctors” kill or injure?

Maria's avatar

Yes. I’d like an apology. Two of my daughters were expecting during Covid. Their doctors screamed in their faces because they wouldn’t take an experimental vaccine while pregnant. To this day I would love to have a little conversation with those jerks. I guess the doctors were upset about losing a bonus.

Pat Wetzel's avatar

People put doctors on such a pedestal! In reality they are sheep in an industry that cares not about your health, but about their ego and the financial bottom line.

Keith Jajko's avatar

If a doctor screamed in the face of my wife while she was pregnant, about the topic of injecting a chemical into your body while carrying inside your body a small person who has yet the ability to be involved with the decision, I would have immediately found that doctor and punched him or her (or it) in the mouth.

I have no doubt about this. Doctors don't yell at patients.

But we can yell at doctors.

Doctors and hospitals have been getting a free pass in the debacle of our lifetime.

Reader East of Albuquerque's avatar

There are some exceptions, respect to them, but my estimation of the average doctor went in the toilet and I flushed.

Jennifer L.'s avatar

Jpeach, Dr. Annette Boz of YouTube fame is one that told her hundreds of thousands of followers along with her actual patients to get the jabs (as well as all the other vaxxes out there). She is known for her teaching people to live the keto diet lifestyle yet still pushed the mRNA poison. When reports started coming out she did an apology video but to this day I no longer watch her videos or trust her opinion on anything.

Jpeach's avatar

My daughter n law suffered two miscarriages. Still clueless that the Vax may have caused it. Fortunately, a few years later she gave birth to a healthy baby.

Maria's avatar

Oh thank goodness! I’m so happy about the baby but so sorry about the miscarriages. One of my children also had a miscarriage shortly after her husband was vaccinated. She was not vaccinated. Re: miscarriage- People do not understand how traumatic that can be!

Russell Schierling's avatar

As a sports ball guy (your word, Jenna, to describe your hubby), I am more than aware of SAS. His entire professional persona is built on controversy and polemic. He is a sharp guy who can be the world's biggest ass. I really do appreciate his apology.

However....

Apologizing to a guy worth 9 figures is sort of (insert whatever word you choose here_______________________). I would feel better if SAS apologized to the myriads of people who were either forced to vaccinate or quit jobs or be fired. These were the work-a-day Joes and Jolenes who went thru an honest-to-goodness shit-wringer, and were right all along. But no one of consequence has told them that or apologized to them.

I personally know MANY, one of whom, a nurse, was FORCED to vaccinate while actually recovering from her third round of COVID. Who could even guess what the long-term consequences are, but short-term is that she is only now getting her smell and taste back, which happened immediately post-vax.

I could really get myself worked into a lather right now, but I have to go see patients. So, in the words of the immortal Forrest Gump, "that's all I have to say about that."

Jennifer L.'s avatar

Russell, well said. Smith was hollering about Kamala in 2024 (just like Bill Maher and Carville are now hollering about the Dems going communist)…..yet all 3 still hate President Trump, MAGA, and will vote Democrat anyway despite their public commentary. 😏

Juju's avatar

This is a really good point. The apologies need to be to the viewers who they all influence so much …

Vee's avatar

Thanks for sharing Stephen's story, Jenna. Like you, we don't watch TV and we definitely don't watch sportsball, so this was no where in my radar.

It's great to see someone with this much influence issue a public apology, but it's hard no to question whether it's truly authentic or if he's just going where the crowd will eventually go based on objective reality. A public apology is certainly better than nothing, but given how much vitriol he shouted when it really mattered, I'd like to see him to continue raising awareness about the fraud that was covid and donate a couple hundred, if not thousands of dollars to the vaccine injured.

If he is truly genuine about his apology and his new awakening, we should see his righteous anger towards being scammed and injected turn into something even more powerful to fight against the system that continues to enslave humanity. We shall see!

Justin's avatar

Mr Smith could have said nothing and gone on in his life, with nary a person remembering.

But one person that was haunted by his words was himself, and you have to give kudos to a man who uses the same megaphone to admit he was wrong.

Yes, Fauci's testimony tipped him over the edge. Maybe it was the association with a fraudster that did it, but I'm willing to bet it was his conscience, and seeing things around him (health, data, etc) that was there before.

I applaud his courage. I hope he'll work to restoring the lost wages of his victim, but he publicly stated that he was wrong, and shared his admiration that Kyrie was indeed brave for standing up to tremendous pressure and losing significant money.

Anger won't bring people back. Accountability will go a long way to righting this ship of wrongs.

But this is a good start on the path to healing.

Someone else's avatar

Totally agree that it would be appropriate and far more meaningful if he makes a large donation to the orgs that are doing the most to help the vaccine and gene therapy injured, as well as to the MDs who lost their licenses because of their efforts to warn the public about the deadly mRNA injections and other covid policies.

Someone else's avatar

For a list of the MDs, and orgs that help the injection injured, he could consult with Dr Peter McCullough, Dr. Pierre Kory, Dr. Mary Talley Bowden, Dr. Simone Gold, Dr Tess Lawrie, Steve Kirsch, Senator Ron Johnson, HHS Secretary Kennedy, Dr. James Thorpe, and Dr. Lapado, just to name a few of those who best demonstrate what "doing better" looks like.

Marlene Swann's avatar

Same! I heard nothing about this anywhere till today! And, let’s not expect too much, now that the tide is turning, it has to start somewhere. And THEN - as Childers calls it - THE RECKONING! (But the point about each of us extending a little grace - well stated.)

Judith's avatar

I watched his apology, he was genuine.

MaryAnn's avatar

Yes. I saw it on X. Replayed it a few times to see if it was AI.

Juju's avatar

He definitely has the platform! He should use it to further inform those viewers he misled

David Baldwin's avatar

I won't hold my breath for anyone else to apologise. For example, my wife will never admit that all the vaccines she has taken, especially the covid ones, were ineffective and dangerous. She was a nurse and doctors in white coats do not make mistakes! And "How could the government make such a blunder"

The best we (the unvaxed) can do is wait until hell freezes over, then, we MIGHT hear an apology from a few people. Again, don't hold your breath.

Curtis's avatar

My close friend is a CNA who refused to listen until the third time she got C19. In desperation, she was willing to try my horse paste. The next morning she felt so much better that she became a believer, and lost all faith in the "Healthcare" system. After fighting numerous parasitic infections over the last year, and not being taken seriously by doctors, she's become a total apostate.

Penny North's avatar

The proof was in the pudding!

Juju's avatar

Ha! The proof was in the paste! 😆

MaryAnn's avatar

David: I will add stop letting them live rent free in your head, although your wife is likely not going anywhere. 🙏🏻

Laura Cornwell's avatar

What does that country song say? We can forgive but we ain’t never gonna forget. Forgiveness doesn’t come with amnesia and if we act like it does, it’ll just happen all over again. I’m not for holding a grudge, but I am for holding out for accountability and until all those who have been damaged by the vaxx get help, let’s not take our eyes off the ball.

Meddling Kid's avatar

What we want, in one word, is justice.

What we owe to those who are TRULY remorseful, is grace.

Fauci has yet to show even an iota of turning toward remorse. He gets no grace.

Steven Smith will get my grace, but he still gets held at arms length. Trust is built.

Roberta Stack's avatar

I’ll take his apology. It’s a start. I’ve seen him several times on different shows and podcasts. He speaks his mind freely, so I believe his apology is sincere. There are so many people that I’d love to see apologize, but I’m not holding my breath.

FREED0ML0VER's avatar

I agree 100%. Public figures should be encouraged to step up and say, "I was wrong and I'm sorry." I hope he's the first of many to do so.

Jeff Schreiber's avatar

It is sort of entertaining to watch the responses all over the place. Some like Smith are encouraging but then you see the Lunatic Left doubling down and standing up in unison to defend their beloved little medical saint (worm).

Brainwashing, especially the kind the Mockingbird media has perfected is a very hard nut to crack because it builds a fortress around the victim so they refuse to accept any contrary conclusions no matter how obvious. In order to protect themselves they go on Facebook or even better Blue Sky and cry about how Trump’s Nazi squad of senators are disgracing the work and reputation of the greatest medical leader this country ever knew. After all, he saved us from the pandemic - and from Trump. This is how they view everything.

Jennifer L.'s avatar

Jeff Schneider, yes indeed. And two perfect examples of what you described were Harvey Levin (founder of TMZ) and Dana Bash (interview with RFKjr on Sunday 8/3/26).

Warrior Mom's avatar

omg! when the aptly-named 'Bash' actually said to RFK jr, she didn't like him 'using their air'!!!! I soooooo wish Bobby would have replied something like: 'why? worried you're gonna catch my cooties?' I know, not exactly what she meant but WOW, talk about a telling moment. outright admitted that time on CNN is reserved for the correct narrative only. again... you wait long enough, bait them well and they will always tell you exactly who they are!

Jeff Schreiber's avatar

And they wonder why their viewership has dropped so low in recent years. I stopped watching mainstream news 10 years ago when I was recovering from heart surgery. It was making me feel sick and when I finally turned it off for good I felt so much better!

Publicus's avatar

Yes, but you left out justice. The dead, dying, and harmed must have justice. Let’s not forget that the SARS COV-2 mRNA gene therapy isn’t just an experimental product with no long term study, it is a PLATFORM technology.

It is a PLATFORM technology that remains on the market and on the childhood vaccine schedule for babies as young as six months.

We also have not yet got to the bottom if the fertility damage (menstrual cycles, miscarriages, stillbirths, etc) or turbo cancers.

It is important that Smith used his platform to inform the indifferent mush in the middle. But my energy remains focussed on the victims of this crime, not the abettors.

BTW, Kyrie played at Duke. He was portrayed as lacking leadership. Never forget the Duke rape lacrosse hoax. The revered coach Mike Krzyzewski (aka Coach K), who wrote a book on Leadership threw the lacrosse team under the bus through his silence.

Only the women's coach had the guts to ask that the brakes be tapped. Kyrie may not be aware of that as he played four years after the rape hoax, regardless he had the right stuff when lives were at risk (still are). God bless him.

Maybe that day of forgiveness will arrive for some, but it’s not today.

Kelly Reardon's avatar

YES!!! 100%

The COVID modified mRNA-LNP gene "therapy" transfection injections MUST be recalled and the injurious and potentially deadly mRNA-LNP genetic transfection platform MUST be banned.

The mRNA-LNP genetic transfection platform itself is irreparably flawed & inherently dangerous and the platform itself IS the primary problem.

The mechanism of action (using LNP-encased modified mRNA to transfect cells inside the body with instructions to turn one’s own cells into foreign non-self “spike protein factories”) IS the primary mechanism of harm.

This triggers a predictable immune system attack response, starting with the Killer T-Lymphocyte cells which will target & destroy one's formerly healthy CELLS, anywhere in the body, that have been transfected and are now expressing non-self proteins...starting a cascade of damage at the deepest biological/cellular level.

This immune response to one's own cells being instructed to express non-self proteins (ANY non-self protein) triggers autoimmune responses, & then T-cell exhaustion & immune system dysfunction & possible collapse, regardless of whether or not the foreign protein is toxic itself.

And EVERY single doctor or medical "professional" knew this (or should have known).

The COVID gene "therapy" shots never should have been injected into a single human being.

But, as you know, the danger is NOT limited to just getting more COVID “boosters”. ANY mRNA gene “therapy” product that transfects your cells & instructs those cells to produce non-self proteins (ANY non-self protein) will trigger an immune system attack response against your own cells & tissues.

This makes EVERY mRNA-based transfection product harmful by design. The PLATFORM is inherently dangerous and it MUST not be allowed to remain on the market.

Karen Bandy's avatar

Nothing will send the message better than banning these harmful drugs/therapies.

Kelly Reardon's avatar

A new poem, written by my husband, Christian Naggiar:

Pleading the 5th

About once every century...

A sick kind of evil comes along...

This particular snake, Fauci...thinks he can do no wrong...

We can all see it in his face...he's not from God's human race...

He preys on the weak!...it is easy to tell...

This duplicitous little sneak...comes straight from Hell...

His sole purpose, to destroy humanity...

No accidents, no mistakes...beyond insanity...

The Left quickly embraced...one of their own...

He became the media's face...and THEY welcomed him into our home...

From the beginning WE knew...exactly what he was up to...

It was hard to miss...a piece of $hit such as this...

This media whore…always wanting more…

Now, he's pleading the 5th?!...

Refusing to speak!....this weaselly little puppet, looks lost and weak!!...

So I take solace in knowing one day...

He will reap what he sows...and will not get away...

His punishment? God only knows...

Because what I have in mind, I cannot say!...

Kelly Reardon's avatar

"The Fauci hearing made it impossible to sustain the illusion, and Smith—to his credit—acknowledged that fact."

My inner Jenna-inspired Pollyanna desperately needs this to be a turning point...

Lori's avatar

Your hubs is a pure gem Kelly!

Kelly Reardon's avatar

Thanks, Lori!

I think so, too!

:)

Claudia's avatar

I really appreciate his public apology when I’m really upset about is mainstream media is doubling down that the diaries didn’t matter. It’s all political spin..