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Lynn Barton's avatar

It's good news, but the real villain is vaccines. Starting with food is strategic; get buy-in from the public while slowly rolling out the bad news on vaccines. Nobody is against healthy food; everybody now knows that processed food is poison and you can't put lipstick on that pig. So that gains credibility for RFK and this FDA. Getting the dyes out will help marginally, eating organic food the way God made it and stop letting our children be pincushions for pharma profit will truly make America healthy again.

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

YEP!

Look up these ingredients to see if they will help your child be healthier or sicker. !

In the first 6 years of life your child receives the following through V accines:

๐Ÿ’‰17,500 mcg 2-phenoxyethanol (antifreeze)

๐Ÿ’‰5,700 mcg aluminum (neurotoxin)

๐Ÿ’‰Unknown amounts of fetal bovine serum(aborted cow blood)

๐Ÿ’‰801.6 mcg formaldehyde (carcinogen, embalming agent)

๐Ÿ’‰23,250 mcg gelatin (ground up animal carcass)

๐Ÿ’‰500 mcg human albumin (human blood)

๐Ÿ’‰760 mcg of monosodium L-glutamate (causes obesity & diabetes)

๐Ÿ’‰Unknown amounts of MRC-5 cells (aborted human babies)

๐Ÿ’‰Over 10 mcg neomycin (antibiotic)

๐Ÿ’‰Over 0.075 mcg polymyxin B (antibiotic)

๐Ÿ’‰Over 560 mcg polysorbate 80 (carcinogen)

๐Ÿ’‰116 mcg potassium chloride (used in a lethal injection)

๐Ÿ’‰188 mcg potassium phosphate (liquid fertilizer agent)

๐Ÿ’‰260 mcg sodium bicarbonate (baking soda)

๐Ÿ’‰70 mcg sodium borate (used for cockroach control)

๐Ÿ’‰54,100 mcg of sodium chloride (table salt)

๐Ÿ’‰Unknown amounts of sodium citrate (food additive)

๐Ÿ’‰Unknown amounts of sodium hydroxide (Danger! Corrosive)

๐Ÿ’‰2,800 mcg sodium phosphate (toxic to any organism)

๐Ÿ’‰Unknown amounts of sodium phosphate monobasic monohydrate (toxic to any organism)

๐Ÿ’‰32,000 mcg sorbitol (Not to be injected)

๐Ÿ’‰0.6 mcg streptomycin (antibiotic)

๐Ÿ’‰Over 40,000 mcg sucrose (cane sugar)

๐Ÿ’‰35,000 mcg yeast protein (fungus)

๐Ÿ’‰5,000 mcg urea (metabolic waste from human urine)

๐Ÿ’‰Other chemical residuals

(From the book, "What The Pharmaceutical Companies Don't Want You To Know About Vaccines" - By Dr.Todd M. Elsner)

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Shayne's avatar

If only this was posted on the walls of doctor's and hospital rooms.....

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

Medes!

I say, post it all over social media. You never who you may get through to, thereby saving a kid and his parents that grief of autism, eczema, SIDS.

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David Nelson's avatar

Is Readers Digest still putting out information like this? They used to be counted on for it. Is Readers Digest still, even?

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

Good question. My mom got

that for decades. I loved it.

I guess theyโ€™d print it as long as they werenโ€™t brought to you

byโ€ฆ Pfizer.

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David Nelson's avatar

I remember when RD decided to put the first pages of their articles on even-numbered pages, giving pride of position to ads on the odd-number pages facing the reader on the right-hand side of the magazine. I remember thinking, "Oh! I guess 'it's about the ads now.'"

Has this been the (Hobson's) choice facing media all along? Progressive entities BUY UP EVERYTHING, and you choose to go along or bankrupt?

Anyway, I think I'll look into a subscription again. If they're still in business (and still true to the founders' principles), they ought to be a good fit for this crowd.

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SadieJay's avatar

My Spanish isn't fluent enough to read those signs on the walls.

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David Nelson's avatar

SadieJay, "wait for it..."

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Tonee norman's avatar

Thank you! That is so shocking to see all together! It needs to be shouted from the rooftops!

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Mike Lee's avatar

Then there's the vitamin D pills that are supposed to be so good for us. Same active ingredient as rat poison. It's true look it up!!

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Tonee norman's avatar

Which Vitamin D pills? Does that include the liquid versions,too?

Thank you!

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Alane's avatar

Look up Jim Stephensen Jr if you want the facts on "vitamin" (actually a hormone) D.

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Mike Lee's avatar

Mine (which I stopped taking) state "as D3 cholecalciferol" it is a capsule of oil. Under "other ingredients" is "soybean oil, gelatin, vegetable glycerin, corn oil"

Here's a link about Cholecalciferol.

https://www.avs4pets.com/blog/cholecalciferol-a-different-rodenticide-toxicity

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SH's avatar

Thank you very much for that information Mike.

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Positively Paying It Forward's avatar

I can just hear the pHARMa Rep now trying to upsell all the benefits of these jax=zeen ingredients (of course while providing a free lunch of seed based oils, artificial flavors, HFCS, processed meats, in the deli-wraps):

+mcg 2-phenoxyethanol (antifreeze)? "Doc, just tell your patients/parents that this helps them keep from freezing while they're outside running around in the middle of winter wearing a T-shirt and sandals."

+monosodium L-glutamate (causes obesity & diabetes): "Doc, just tell them that it helps give those babies have that 'healthy' look with all the dimples on their knees and knuckles."

+260 mcg sodium bicarbonate (baking soda), 35,000 mcg yeast protein (fungus): "Doc, these are leavening agents, which you can tell the patient that it will help their kid grow taller."

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Katherine's avatar

Great comment! ๐Ÿ˜‚

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Bridget's avatar

Actually I think a TON of people don't know/think of processed food is poison. But, agreed, baby steps!

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Dena's avatar

Willful ignorance runs rampant in our (lazy?) culture.

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David Nelson's avatar

Busy/dizzy culture. The Bizzies.

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Benjamin Sharp's avatar

I remember when eggs were โ€œbad for youโ€! Hilarious!

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Indrek Sarapuu's avatar

Yep, full of cholesterol.

Then came statins to fix it.

Finally, the revelation that we need cholesterol for brain health, and statins are not required.

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E. Grogan's avatar

And that statins cause cancer, memory loss and numerous other health issues:

- cancer (in every study with rodens, statins has caused cancer - and we wonder why

there is a cancer epidemic?)

- muscle pain and weakness

- peripheral neuropathy (which is very painful)

- heart failure

- dizziness

- cognitive impairment (memory loss)

- cancer

- pancreatitis

- depression

I used search engine yandex.com and found this info at this website:

https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/modern-diseases/dangers-of-statin-drugs-what-you-havent-been-told-about-popular-cholesterol-lowering-medicines/#gsc.tab=0

But if you use that search engine, which I think is one of the better ones, you will find NUMEROUS websites telling us of the bad side effects/dangers of using statins to lower cholesterol. Yes, this is a myth, cholesterol is in every cell of your body I've read and it does numerous healthy things for us. I've lived in rural area for decades and have known of many farmers who grew up eating lots of eggs, raw milk, and butter from their cows and they live to be very old, many of them over 100 y.o. and that's what they ate as kids and still do, most if not all without cognitive impairment.

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Bridget's avatar

The book "The Cholesterol Myth" was very eye-opening and confusing for me.

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SadieJay's avatar

I will tell you that my cholesterol level was 207. Go on Statins, my Dr. said. NO, I said. Then I went on to lose 65 lbs and quit eating anything out of a bag, box or can. Just unprocessed food. Went back 8 months later and my cholesterol was 350. I only eat clean food and go for less ingredients in everything and if I can't pronounce it, I don't eat it. My Dr. has quit trying to get me to do anything. I don't even let them take blood anymore. Healthier than I have ever been in my life.

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David Nelson's avatar

I wish you'd share "how you got control of yourself to lose 65 pounds." Might be something in your story would help some of us.

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SadieJay's avatar

Hi David....here is a Substack about how I did it. Food and what to eat is the bane of my existence. Thanksโ™ฅ

https://sadiejay.substack.com/p/the-food-the-bad-and-the-ugly

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David Nelson's avatar

Not just yours of course, Sadie! Can you believe we are so far "advanced" and "evolved" from our forebears that we have this entirely self-imposed problem? (What could I possibly say by way of excuse to an ancestor who regularly faced starvation that I was "powerless" to resist "extra helpings?")

Thank you for the link; no doubt the author will see loads of new subscribers, and those subscribers will find heaps of articles to help them "get control of themselves." (I'm off to subscribe, and a sincere "Thank you, again." for the assist.)

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Positively Paying It Forward's avatar

If truly concerned about cholesterol, but want to avoid statins, try Red Yeast Rice.

Natural and available online or at any larger drug store, right on the shelves with supplements.

Friend tried it.

Here's his results:

Pre and Post RYR 6 months apart:

CHOL. 234 -> 171

HDL. 61 -> 69 (should be above 60)

LDL. 158 -> 93 (Less than 100 mg/dL: Optimal for most healthy adults)

TRIG. 77 -> 45 (Less than 149 mg/dL: ideal is under 100)

Per AI:

"Red Yeast Rice (RYR) for Cholesterol

Red yeast rice is a traditional Chinese medicine that has been used for centuries to lower cholesterol levels. It contains monacolin K, a compound that is similar to the statin drugs used to treat high cholesterol.

How Does RYR Lower Cholesterol?

RYR works by inhibiting an enzyme in the liver that produces cholesterol. This enzyme is called HMG-CoA reductase. By blocking this enzyme, RYR can reduce the production of cholesterol in the body. "

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Tim Pallies's avatar

Try telling that to my doctor.

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CindyArizona's avatar

I had to quit my doctor over her incessant badgering about statins. I got my cholesterol down 60pts strictly with diet and exercise and she still tried to write me a script for statins for a level of 210. I asked her how much her kickback was for each script she wrote and walked out. ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ

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Tim Pallies's avatar

Iโ€™m still in the โ€œis it more trouble to stay or switchโ€ phase. Congrats to you!

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SH's avatar

Just print out the evidence and place a sheet in every magazine in the waiting room.

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Indrek Sarapuu's avatar

Better still, don't.

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Cindi's avatar

And โ€œmargarineโ€ was โ€œsuperiorโ€ to real butter!

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Mike Lee's avatar

Everywhere except Wisconsin, The Dairy State.

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Will Falconer, DVM's avatar

Grew up in SE Wisconsin, people started running to Illinois for the phony fat but my parents luckily said No Way! Butter makes everything Better! (They had yet to learn about sugar, but generally we ate little to no over processed food, and I thank heavens I landed in that family!).

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Teresa Parmenter's avatar

And coffee causes breast cancer - lmao

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Carol K's avatar

As an unfortunate denture wearer, Iโ€™ve

Ingested gallons of

Fixident and Polygrip for years with R40 and zinc.

I couldnโ€™t find a brand with no color.

As soon as they discovered zinc was good for us they removed it like it was poison. Now at least Poly can be found sans color!

And of course the price keeps going up !

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Nina's avatar

Butter was bad for you too. And bacon. I have eggs and butter and bacon every morning, and I feel great!

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Annie's avatar

I never fell for the "butter is bad for you" stuff. I love a good butter. ๐Ÿ˜‹ ๐Ÿ˜‹ ๐Ÿ˜‹

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Katherine A. Ranft's avatar

Me neither. Butter has two ingredients. Sweet cream and salt. Both natural. Satisfying in small amounts. Margarine and the non-butter substitutes do not contain natural ingredients and it is not satisfying no matter how much you consume. Demonizing natural butter and over consuming non-natural margarine is just one example of how marketing has contributed to the demise of American health.

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๐ŸŒฑNard๐Ÿ™'s avatar

We only cooked w vegetable oil when making fried chicken. Otherwise, we used the vat of bacon grease next to the stove. Still doโ€ฆfunny. My friends w chubby kids would berate me for cooking w bacon fat. I had skinny kids. They did not. They struggled with their weight. I did not. They donโ€™t berate me any more lol.

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Nina's avatar

Exactly. We use only bacon fat or beef tallow for frying.

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Indrek Sarapuu's avatar

Beef tallow can be hard to come by.

I use pure lard if deep frying.

Works like a charm!

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SH's avatar

Actually you can get large or small containers of tallow on Etsy for fairly reasonable prices. To keep using it, you just have to strain it once it cools but before it turns solid again. I strain mine twice - once through a simple strainer (catches bigger bits) and second through a coffee filter in that same strainer - I wash the deep frying pan between 1 & 2 when doing this, so it's clean, then the second step puts the tallow back into the clean, dry pan with lid. Doesn't take long, just another step during clean up. That pan sits on a trivet next to the stove, ready for use.

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Indrek Sarapuu's avatar

Thanks! I'll look that up!

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Tonee norman's avatar

Do you find your lard without being โ€œHydrogenated โ€œ?

Thank you.

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Indrek Sarapuu's avatar

Yep, no hydrogenation

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John Wright's avatar

Standard breakfast! Yes, a bit of meat and scrambled eggs cooked in butter. Sure beats Fruit Loops!

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David Nelson's avatar

Back a way long time ago, National Lampoon had a half-hour long radio show called "The National Lampoon Radio Hour" [sic, because they were sick like that; they even had the stones to advise listeners to "call their stations" if they were not receiving the "second half-hour" of the show which had all the raciest bits; stations told them to "knock off that sh*t" because they were tired of taking the calls]

Anyway, back a long time ago they ran a "show" which was a send-up of Prof. S. I. Hayakawa's reputation as a stickler for English grammar and punctuation. In the episode, "a listener wrote in":

"Dear Dr. Hayakawa,

I recently saw a commercial for Froot Loops in which they ended a sentence with: 'Froot Loops, part of this complete breakfast.'

My question is: shouldn't they have said instead: 'Froot Loops, ๐—ป๐—ฒ๐—ฎ๐—ฟ this complete breakfast' or '...๐—ฎ๐—ฑ๐—ท๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ฒ๐—ป๐˜' to this complete breakfast or '...๐—ถ๐—ป ๐˜€๐˜๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐—ธ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—ฝ๐—ผ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ถ๐—ฏ๐—น๐—ฒ ๐—ฐ๐—ผ๐—ป๐˜๐—ฟ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜ ๐˜๐—ผ'? Thank you."

[I have carried this story in my head since 1973 or 4, without ever finding 'just the right audience' who needed to hear it. Your welcome. Is appreciated.]

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TheGreatAwakening's avatar

That used to be one of my favorite cereals. Apple Jacks was my favorite. And then when I was 9, my world crumbled around me because my parents started listening to a nutritionist named Gary Null, and in about 1.5 years, they radically changed our diet to everything healthy.

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David Nelson's avatar

Truth has derailed many a happy fantasy. For me, some troll told me about nutrition labels. Out with the Cap'n Crunch; in with the avocado toast. (Not in one day, you could die of mouth-feel arrest.)

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TheGreatAwakening's avatar

hahaha yes it took us 1.5-2 yrs to tradition (first thing was stopping drinking fluoridated water), but I was young.... sitting in the lunch room with my whole grain rye bread sandwich with tahini and mustard spread and sprouts in the middle as I spied my friends' baloney on white bread sandwiches ... not easy ;-).

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Eli's avatar

David, it was about time! ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

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David Nelson's avatar

(...there's another one...)

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Someone else's avatar

Or, for a highly nutritious fast-food breakfast, try the very special oatmeal in the Nourishing Traditions cookbook. Itโ€™s a great alternative to boxed breakfast cereals that are among the cheapest non-foods with the highest profit margins.

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Tonee norman's avatar

Didnโ€™t I read,somewhere,that oatmeal was highly toxic from Roundup ? Even โ€œorganic โ€œ brands were not exemptโ€ฆ? I donโ€™t remember WHERE i read that,and,maybe itโ€™s just more propaganda to get us NOT to eat healthy..but,I thought it was from one of these trusted people on Substack?โ€ฆ

Anyway,I can only eat oatmeal with gobs of butter,brown sugar and creamโ€ฆso,itโ€™s a dessert in the evening,if eaten. I can not eat anything sweet in the morning,or hardly at all. Only because I donโ€™t like the way it makes me feel. I crave something salty directly after eating anything sweet..

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SH's avatar

Yes, Tonee, you DID read that. I read the same article and it stated all but two of the several "organic" brands tested contained high amounts of pesticides (of course they did not name the 2 safe ones) and ALL of the regular oats contained high amounts of pesticides. .

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Richard schoenenberger's avatar

Try Azure Standard for the best oatmeal

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๐ŸŒฑNard๐Ÿ™'s avatar

Great tip! Iโ€™ll stock up the next time we fry chicken. We use it when we make green chili lol.

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Tonee norman's avatar

You fry chicken with oatmeal? TY

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Tonee norman's avatar

I thought you were commenting on the oatmeal postโ€ฆ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿปโ€โ™€๏ธ

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Indrek Sarapuu's avatar

Agreed.

And give up all industrial seed oils.

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Someone else's avatar

and all the rest of the โ€œnew fangled foodsโ€ listed in โ€œNourishing Traditionsโ€.

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DJL's avatar

We just became best friends โ˜บ๏ธ

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Hugh Petersen's avatar

I hope the bacon you have is uncured.

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Mike Lee's avatar

I got on a DIY bacon thing for a while. It doesn't need the nitrates. Just salt to cure.

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David Nelson's avatar

I never could catch up to the pig, but afterward I was kind of grateful because I hadn't read ahead very far.

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The Great Santini's avatar

Watch out for nitrates / nitrites.

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Wendy Leonard's avatar

nitrates are natural in celery, so if its cured with celery powder it has added nitrates...FYI

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The Great Santini's avatar

Wowโ€ฆdidnโ€™t know thatโ€ฆthanks.

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TrMac's avatar

Each bottle of Propel promises protein for melting muscles, fiber for confused intestines, and electrolytes for the parched will to live.

OMG Jenna, you are so freaking funny. This whole article was loaded, but this one really got me snorting.

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Jenna McCarthy's avatar

๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿฉท๐Ÿคฃ

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Vee's avatar

"Sure, I might crap my pants, but I could eat an entire trough! With no guilt!" ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ

By the way, doesn't it seem like the same playbook is being used to address the real culprit in chronic disease? VACCINES! We'll just make the poison better by removing some of the poison. It's just the mercury, aluminum, and themerisoal that makes the shots bad. Once we remove those, they are safe and effective again! ๐Ÿ™ƒ

Happy fat free Friday!! Don't know about you all, but I'm going to grab myself ten more bags of doritos now that they're made them healthier! Have a great weekend and thanks for the Friday morning laughs Jenna! ๐Ÿค—

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Bridget's avatar

I chose "marketing at its finest" because ultimately it's optics. NKD?? That actually made me lol. I'm imagining a consumer opening a bag of NKD Doritos and finding...baked pita chips. Now THAT would be NKD, lol!

I remember this grocery store in NYC in the early 00s that was SUPER popular for a while, called F Cubed - which stood for "Fat Free Foods." An entire store full of this crap.

Anyone else remember what the toilet looked like after eating chips with Olestra in them - the oil slick on the water? EWWWWWW! I remember how excited I was to try some fat-free brand of crap chip in the 90s - but seeing the evidence in the toilet of what they actually did to your digestion was so disgusting that I immediately tossed them (and realized maybe some things need to just be accepted as crap for an occasional snack because they can't be made to be good for you.).

All right, off to make a fried egg in butter for breakfast :)

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The Great Santini's avatar

You probably thought NKD meant naked. But there could be some alternativesโ€ฆ

NKD = No Kids Died (yet)?

NKD = No Known Disease (yet)?

NKD = a vaguely reminiscent term for the Soviet Secret Police (actually NKVD)? Your Doritos are watching you! Ve know vat you vere doing on ze couch!

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Bridget's avatar

Lol. Now, with more nanobots!

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The Great Santini's avatar

We will neither confirm nor deny to presence of nanobots in our Doritos.

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Bridget's avatar

๐Ÿ˜… well, I think we all know that the important thing here is that the Nanobots don't have any artificial colors or flavors in them

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The Great Santini's avatar

While neither confirming nor denying the existence of the nanobots previously mentioned, we can assure the public that any nanobots that may, or may not, be present would be completely natural, for nanobots.

Meanwhile please tell the dog to get off the couch. He knows heโ€™s not supposed to get on the couch.

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Bridget's avatar

Now THAT'S the kind of reassurance I look for from my junk food manufacturer!

The dog will get off the couch if you give him some NKD Doritos.

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Gwyneth's avatar

Your descriptive powers are a delight; "turkey sadness" being one example amongst many.

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SadieJay's avatar

That was my favorite. Turkey sadness. :-)

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Tonee norman's avatar

Yes! Meee,too๐Ÿคฃ

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David Nelson's avatar

I don't even remember the passage.

But it's already made me sad.

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Janet's avatar

Iโ€™m still laughing, Jenna. Been there done all of it. Right into an eating disorder early on. I just was not Twiggy material. Much as I tried. Starved during The Pritikin diet once. Ultra low fat. Like 2 oz of meat a day, I think. Or was it a week? The mice in the basement started to look good and tasty. Low carb worked well for me then keto. Now Iโ€™m trying to repair my metabolism and thyroid. Yup, you need carbs. Many I know are on Ozempic. There will be a metabolic breakdown thatโ€™s hard to repair eventually . Plus the rest of the damages. I gave up any chip of any sort on January 6 2003 for good as they are my trigger food. I loved cottage cheeseโ€”scooped up with Rufflesโ€”and the WOW ones never bothered me. I just eat a mostly grain-free diet with actual, more natural food including lots of fresh fruit. Saw a Froot Loops commercial yesterday thatโ€™s still pumping the joyful dyes. Looked like an โ€œin your face, Bobbyโ€ message. Snackwells. The gateway food to no fat.

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Valerie's avatar

Good for you for figuring out what works for your body! I have to say... Iโ€™m very concerned about the long term with the weight loss drugs. Not the side effects, but the lack of muscle. I know many people on these drugs and theyโ€™re all thrilled theyโ€™re getting skinny without having to exercise, but exercise is important for many reasons, the least of which is getting skinny. We all lose muscle as we age, and muscle is what keeps us from falling, or from being stuck and unable to get up from a chair. I really think the long term is going to be a massive problem when these folks are elderly.

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Janet's avatar

True. Low carb and starvation eating thinned my bones even though I felt great! (2 surgeries from falls) at least for some time. Iโ€™m 77. Even now, , 38 years from my serious eating disorder end, food is a little complicated for me but now health is my end goal. Iโ€™m much stronger now, I walk miles and hike. Garden, etc. Itโ€™s still a work in progress. I stay away from conventional doctors. All the best, Valerie.

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Valerie's avatar

That all sounds good. I never had an eating disorder, but I know I was massive under proteined (and dehydrated) for many years. Doing great now at 57, but weโ€™ll see how that works in my older years.

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David Nelson's avatar

So glad you're here Janet. Long road.

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David Nelson's avatar

Imagining a weight-loss product that results in a shapeless blob, BUT within the healthy weight range for shapeless blobs!

"Going to the gym to get in shape" means going to the gym to get _into_ one of those "presses" that squeeze your blobbiness into whatever shape you've selected for the week: Bourne, Terminator, Stallone, Dolly. (Effect is temporary, and still requires a lot of spray-on "stiffeners.")

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SH's avatar

Those GLP1 drugs scare me. Not only the permanent dependence, but also the side effects.

Have a dear friend on it; she's already lost 45 pounds, as well as her gall bladder and lots of her hair. I hate to think what is next for her. She has to tease and fluff her remaining hair to cover her increasing bald spots. The hair loss alone tells me she is not getting the nutrition she needs.

Several years ago, she also got a "preventative" colonoscopy (insurance offered it)- where the incompetent "doctor" perforated her colon. She had to have a different doctor do emergency surgery to clean out her abdomen (peritonitis), remove a foot of intestine, reattach her intestines; wear a colostomy bag for almost 6 months (while the intestines healed), then reverse the colostomy, then heal all over again. She came very close to dying several times during all that, and found out she was the 4th patient he had done that to in ONE year!!

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Jenna McCarthy's avatar

And people wonder why we are terrified of going to the doctorโ€ฆ๐Ÿ™ˆ

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SH's avatar

It truly is incompetence with a license

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Valerie's avatar

Holy guacamole.

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David Nelson's avatar

A nurse friend warned that starting down the weight-loss drug road will likely lead to life-long dependence.

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MaryAnn's avatar

Janetโ€”all of this. I sort of had a post-diet-trauma-episode reading Jennaโ€™s recap and then yours. I bought it all ๐Ÿ˜–

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

Reading about snacks, any snacks at 8:15 am, was tough. But I powered through. ๐Ÿคข Btw, arenโ€™t many of these snack companies owned by tobacco companies?

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Occam's avatar

100%

When smoking was under scrutiny, Big Tobacco moved into foods and applied all that knowledge on creating addiction to food.

Any wonder process food is so addictive?

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Janet's avatar

I believe so. Same tactics used. PHARMA uses them too.

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Someone else's avatar

This is a great article on an important topic, and lol entertaining (as usual)! I especially like the reminders of previous diet scams.

Anyone interested in accurate diet advice should listen to Sally Fallon Morrell describe what the dentist Weston A Price found when he analyzed the diets of 12 different exceptionally healthy populations that were isolated from โ€œmodernโ€ โ€œnon-foodsโ€, in the 1940s. From Switzerland to Scotland to Florida to Alaska to an island in the south seas and so forth, they ate foods 100% local to their environment that had the same nutrients - high in vitamins A, D, and K found in animal fats (e.g., raw dairy) or organ meats. The Swiss community lived in an isolated area high in the alps, and lived on a diet of raw dairy, fresh air, very pure water, and a sourdough bread that โ€œbakedโ€ in the ground for 2 weeks. - i.e., they decided against kale, and instead let their cows process the green grass into nutritious milk that also yielded a deep golden butter for their bread. So yummy! Priceโ€™s criteria for the populations he studied was: exceptionally white and straight teeth with very few cavities during a lifetime, which was also evidence of very healthy bone structure. Some of those populations ate a diet mainly from the sea or the jungle, but all of their diets had the same nutrients.

Itโ€™s possible to choose a diet like one of those populations today. Sources for those foods are available from the Weston A. Price Foundation.

I donโ€™t have an affiliation with that foundation, but Iโ€™m deeply grateful for what Iโ€™ve learned from them. Their annual conference, Wise Traditions, started in a church basement 25 years ago, and will serve yummy nutrient-dense meals, prepared using traditional methods that make the nutrients easy to absorb, to over 1200 attendees in Salt Lake City starting next Friday. I highly recommend the conference (esp Sallyโ€™s talks) which has a remote streaming option or exhibits from some of their best nutrient-dense food sources. I also recommend Sallyโ€™s cookbook โ€œNourishing Traditionsโ€ because (1) every recipe is super yummy and super nourishing, and (2) the info about nutrient-dense foods and meals is invaluable. Seed oils have been on her list of โ€œnew-fangled foodsโ€ for decades, and Iโ€™ve been avoiding them and the rest of the listed new-fangled foods since I first read that cookbook. Again, Iโ€™m really grateful for her nutritional advice, which has been followed by exceptionally healthy/fit people since before the 1940s.

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KatWarrior's avatar

Excellent post, Someone Else! I am a enthusiastic member of The School of Traditional Skills SKS. Sally is one of the many teaching traditional skills!

I am NOT an affiliate of SKS, just a regular human trying to get back to basics and my farming roots!

I thank you for posting this and I will be watching via streaming!

On a side note, I do not eat any of that crap, ever! I used to โ€œindulgeโ€ once in โ€œa blue moon!โ€ Since a โ€œblue moonโ€ is literally a visual illusion, stop thinking that this shit, crap, and less crappy is going to end well!

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Curtis's avatar

Not to be pedantic, (proceeds to be pedantic), but a "blue moon" means having two full moons in one calendar month.... ๐Ÿ˜‰

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KatWarrior's avatar

Stand corrected! ๐Ÿ˜‚

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Someone else's avatar

Also, the cookbook has a great list of how to get started on eating a nourishing diet. There are many changes in food choices and preparation techniques, and I found her suggestions for how to get started very helpful.

One of my most fun experiences was when one of my 20-something sons started to use the microwave oven and I told him we werenโ€™t going to be using it anymore. The look on his face was priceless. (โ€œYou canโ€™t be serious?โ€ฆ. Really??? โ€ฆ. Okay, momโ€™s really gone off the rockers now!โ€ - all in the space of the blink of an eye). . But then he got interested when I read the reason not to, and to this day he also doesnโ€™t use the microwave.

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John Wright's avatar

Has anyone considered actually eating: Food?

It might not be fluorescent orange and often takes a bit of time to prepare, but instead of giving you cancer it cures cancer.

Another tip: drink purified water! Yes, you know that clear stuff that nature provides? Turns out it is a heck of a lot healthier than Pepsi!

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David Nelson's avatar

I was in a store that had a sign that said "food" was for sale "over there," so I went over to see what it was. None of it was in packages, just laying out au naturel, and most of it looked like it had no preservatives on it at all. Then I saw it was, most of it, priced by "the pound." I thought to myself, "That's all I need: MATH!"

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Roberta Stack's avatar

A great take on this! Junk food is still junk food. I just tell people that if you need a chemistry book to decipher whatโ€™s in it, donโ€™t eat it. And eat simply and eat whole foods. Iโ€™m not a snacker, so Iโ€™m glad Iโ€™m not on that track.

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David Nelson's avatar

One of the great journalists of our day, Michael Pollan, advised, "If your grandparents wouldn't recognize it as food, don't eat it." (I would amend that to 'great-grandparents.')

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Roberta Stack's avatar

When I used to lecture, I would say that exact thing when talking about nutrition.

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David Nelson's avatar

...because Pollan told you to right? ;^)

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Roberta Stack's avatar

Long before Pollan. It was the 80's. I cautioned people about vaccines as well. I lectured in the 80's, 90's and up until 2016. I'm just so glad that people are waking up.

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David Nelson's avatar

It's good to have lived long enough to be proven right! My scientist-North-Star, J. Harlen Bretz, is reported to have said, after being asked how it felt to have his theories finally vindicated and recognized, "I have mixed emotions; all my professional enemies are dead." (It should only happen to more professional enemies...)

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Patti F's avatar

As the mom of a kid who's affected by food dyes, I'll take any win I can get. My son LOVES Doritos, but I never allowed them. Now if we're on a road trip and he wants a small bag of the "natural" (as if anything about these things are natural) ones in the car, I'm more likely to say yes because the dyes aren't there. I know the other stuff is still crap, but it was the dyes I was looking for. Yuka actually gives the Natural Doritos a 51/100 which, in the grand scheme of junk food, isn't that horrible.

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DJL's avatar

Yuka is such a great app!!!

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Patti F's avatar

My son calls it a fear-mongering app. :D He doesn't like that it lets me know just how bad some of the crap is that he wants to eat.

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Rebel Rooster's avatar

I love Yuka too. Helps a lot when grocery shopping. Itโ€™s a bit extreme on sodium levels but nails it on harmful additives.

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Jenna McCarthy's avatar

It's also hyperaggressive about calories and fat. Like it'll give raw almonds a poor/30 rating and say "too caloric, too much fat." DUDE I'm going to eat seven. Same for coconut milk (which I cook with constantly--but I'll use an entire can in a vat of soup that has 20 servings...). But for most stuff, it's golden. :)

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Patti F's avatar

That's what I look at - additives. I know if something is high in sodium or fat. I want to know what fake stuff is being added.

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Cabogirl's avatar

Love YUKA. Its the best app ever. Scan your foods and hair and body products and you can see what is in them and get a 1-100 % rating on them. 100 bring the best.

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Katherine A. Ranft's avatar

In the late 70โ€™s, after graduating from college, where my diet plummeted into awfulness, my health took a turn. Doctor said I needed to be in the hospital. After one test that was inconclusive and not having insurance, I decided to adopt a macrobiotic diet. After 3 years of following this regime, my so-called pre-cancerous condition (at 24 years old) was gone. I had to change my diet AND lifestyle AND my sphere of bad influence in order to regain vibrant health. Once I was physically strong, I had to address psychological issues and sought a therapist. In my case, alternative โ€œmedicineโ€ helped. Acupuncture, acupressure, herbs, no alcohol. I worked the entire timeโ€ฆin a health food store! ๐Ÿ˜‚ After 5 years managing that store, and given my trajectory down and up health-wize, I concluded that most of the supplements and health foods, unless truly natural, were crap. And that learning about how my body functions and what a truly healthy diet was for me โ€ฆ educating myselfโ€ฆwas the key. I taught macro cooking classes out of the store. Mostly cancer patients lined up. 24 years old and people were so desperate, they asked young, tiny little me to give them advice. I think that my own health journey gave me the courage to try and help these people in any way that I could. I was a guest cook in the Oakland Macro Center, traveled around CA with a cooktop stove and basic menus. My claim to fame was that I made mistakes and imparted humor and engaged with them in ways that helped heal me as well. Those experiences and facing my fears of not being perfect (part of the psych issues) and not the most experienced macro person (which I was told by the long-time know-it-alls that thought I should not be a guest cook), were all part of my growth on many levels. After my 3rd year, I needed to get back out into the world, stop eating from a list and make better choices based upon what I had learned. Freedom was not, like the macro community espoused at that time, making that my identity. Freedom was sitting in an entire room of tortilla chips and being able to eat the appropriate amount. Freedom was not having fears of eating certain things. Looking back, not unlike 9 months of pregnancy in which to supposedly prepare for having a baby and finding out that the easy part is over and the lifelong challenges are just beginning, I definitely had more concrete than sand as a foundation. But the work was just beginning. Now approaching my 69th birthday, I can say that I would never advise anyone to do anything just because it worked for me. I will share my story for what it may be worth. And that is all. โ€œThank you for your attention to this matter!โ€ ๐Ÿ˜‚

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Dr. Molly Rutherford's avatar

No alcohol is critical. I have many anxious patients. Trying to convince them to stop the booze is challenging

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Kathleen Oliver's avatar

Gosh...just got a big dose of over indulgence from reading your article. It is lucky we Americans are still alive with all the poisons we ingest from over processed cereals, snacks, vaccines, and now ozempic injections. Give me my raw milk, free range chicken and eggs, grass fed beef that has not been dipped in chlorine and fresh greens and tomatoes from my backyard. Oh and my gym in my garage to stay fit. Not only will I save myself from poison and stay a bit leaner, but I won't get poor from all the expensive drug prescriptions needed when the inevitable chronic illnesses set in.

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Shayne's avatar

They could take every chemical out of their disgusting chips, but until they use organic corn products, it's all smoke and mirrors. I'd rather not have a bag of glyphosate, thank you.

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