Jenna, I’m afraid you’re spot on right here: “Which makes me wonder: do they even care if we notice? Or is the whole point to see how much nonsense we’ll swallow before we choke?” Anyone else starting to choke?
“We know that they are lying, they know that they are lying, they even know that we know they are lying, we also know that they know we know they are lying too, they of course know that we certainly know they know we know they are lying too as well, but they are still lying. In our country, the lie has become not just moral category, but the pillar industry of this country.”
A few of his comments/thoughts to invite the full read and provide more information/perspective:
"First things first, the case against Tyler Robinson is obviously a frame. The text exchange purportedly between him and his romantic interest ties up all the loose ends like the last minute of every episode of Scooby-Doo.
There has been no autopsy.
The bullet which was fired from a high powered rifle which every gun expert on social media says would have blown the young Kirk’s head clean off was never recovered.
Without the bullet, there is no way to determine whether the weapon and Robinson was involved in the assassination.
What little video footage officially released to the public looks like it was taken from a security camera from a 7-11 in the last century.
To my understanding, “Lee Harvey” Robinson has not confessed to doing anything. But neither has he emphatically pleaded that he was “just a patsy”. Perhaps that is why he is still alive today.
Even more damning to the official story is the dogged reporting of another outspoken conservative voice and Kirk’s friend, Candace Owens, who spoke to Tyler Robinson’s family. His parents didn’t think their son, a model student and not a “gun enthusiast”, was involved.
According to Owens’ sources, Robinson and family reported to the police after a family friend who was a former law enforcement official warned them that authorities had pinned Kirk’s murder on Tyler and a violent confrontation would likely ensue. Tyler Robinson, it seems, reported to authorities to clear his name, not to confess.
And no, Robinson never sent that effusive series of texts that described his love for his boyfriend/roommate, political leanings of his father, the location where he hid the murder weapon and how it came into his possession in the first place, all while eluding a massive manhunt."
why would it scare you? no one makes it into puppet positions of presumed power without being a stooge. thats just a given. voting local may still matter.
What bothers me is other big name people just go along and don’t question all these things that Jenna and the rest of us are here. Tucker?Megan Kelly? Feels like we are all being played.
I’m guessing that Tucker feels too vulnerable to question the inconsistencies in the narrative. He’s being attacked for being antisemitic, which could be a ploy to take him out of questioning the official claims about who carried out the assassination. I don’t know Megan Kelly’s history or courage in the topics she covers, but my sense is that she also needs to play it safe on this one. We’re fortunate to have a deep enough bench that when some have to play it safe others are courageous enough to make it clear that the official story doesn’t make sense, and to do so in a way that keeps them mostly above reproach.
Patel and Bongino alike seem strangely altered since getting read in at the FBI - threats to their families? Extremely well done deepfake blackmail? Not sure but it's worrying, especially how in bed with lefty tech bros Trump 2.0 has been .
I think they all need for the grassroots to stay not buying and resisting the deep state propaganda. We’re all in this together, and the more we band together on the side of truth, the better off we’ll be in the long run.
"Truth-hunting fatigue is a real thing." - Ain't that the truth! Unless we have the humor skills of Jenna's writing, it's hard to get anyone to engage and think about issues. Some days you just don't want to bother any more.
Tried to make a comment to a liberal old lady friend about the Tylenol announcement and the base stupid mothers in those memes, that this has been known about for a long time. Her only reply was that people resent RFK jr not being a doctor and saying what he did. You hoo. The secretary of HHS is not required to be a doctor to head this. The doctors were standing around Bobby. The Secretary of War is not a 5 star general either. There have been only 2 doctor HHS secretaries. One President Trump appointed in his first term. Give me strength my God. She didn’t watch the announcement anyway because Bobby is icky.
Unfortunately, your friend probably doesn't realize how poorly educated MDs are. Oh sure, they spend many years in school learning anatomy, etc, but they do not learn HEALTH.
"Bobby is icky" - well, I'll take a million RFKs over one Flip Flop Fauci who is the epitome of "icky".
Excellent advice. Overall I'm finding it hard to do (which is why I've been pretty pessimistic for the past five years).
Research and study *is* what "feeds my soul". What sucks my soul empty is the complete lack of concern by 99% of the population. Substack is a delightful oasis of good people, but even here it's hard to get much engagement and serious commenting.
Sadly,Substack is about the ONLY place I have found interesting,intelligent,like minded people…I could use a few actual humans in my sphere that I don’t have to keep my thoughts and opinions,to myself..but,in my extremely blue neighborhood,it’s not happening:(
I do, then I cancel. Tired of the algorithms on any social platform, when I do get a reply, you hear the defeat, exhaustion in their reply. Or a thumbs up 👍 Does anyone still do door to door petitions, and can we have our representatives have to sign for them?? Oh, I nodded off for a second.
MeWe is relatively small (tens of millions of users not billions) but I like it that way!
MeWe is "group" oriented, so you see only what you want to see. No algorithms. Join the groups you like (and leave them if they turn out undesirable). No advertising. No censorship. (each group moderates itself)
Thank you. Be looking for you. And honestly, I cannot stand being defeatist. So I’m picking myself up and brushed off my pants and keepin-on. See ya on MeWe
I don't watch much, but I do read - substacks, news sites, people send me stuff by the truckload & run newsletters for a couple of groups. Grew up a political/news junkie, my 5th grade teacher put me in charge of a current events bulletin board. Can't help myself, haha.
Same - I don't like video content - no links to sources and too little context, or it's a lot of jabbering by some influencer who adds time but not value. I do flip around and listen to talk radio in the car at times, but it's the same as video - 15-20 minutes of content in an hour.
I heard the microphone theory this weekend, told with absolute glee by someone I wouldn’t trust to mow my grass, he’s so fried from the drugs he’s done for the past 30 years.
Anyway, while I understand the questions, my take is that Tyler did shoot, he was primed by unknown bad actors, and the silence we are getting from the fbi and other government is because the are tracking and finding said bad actors.
It goes deep, and it does take time to find, document, and track to the ultimate top guy or group.
That’s my prayer actually.
Meanwhile, I’ve watched some of the TPUSA podcasts, and they have answered quite a few of the questions, with realistic answers.
So,yeah, I don’t think we will ever know the whole truth. I do feel comfortable in that it is being investigated, even if we don’t see it all right now.
Also I DO NOT think that his widow is in anyway responsible or knowledgeable of any wrong doing.
I feel that she is a strong hurt woman doing her best to keep his organization going, her children protected, and her sanity intact.
This is the most reasonable post I have seen here yet.
For anyone who wants to see what an exploding microphone might look like, go find videos of the Israeli pager explosions and compare.
There is no possible way this was an explosion. It was a high velocity projectile entering or exiting. And if you compare it to what real life entry and exit wounds look and behave like, you will quickly realize that it must be an entry wound.
Look for videos by Paramount Tactical on YouTube that make these arguments extremely hard to refute.
I was despairing for a bit that I was going to find any voices of reasons. Seriously, from that tiny mic it would be implausible to launch a projectile into the neck, at least without other visible injuries, blast marks, etc. There are also other things mentioned that have been debunked, such as the mysterious and supposedly very sinister shut down of the DQ—other reporting says it’s open and operating. I get why people look to other places for facts other than the MSM sources, but that does not mean every non-MSM source are bastions of factual reporting. Everybody and their dog is not an expert in video analysis, or wound analysis (not even avid hunters or former snipers). There are logical reasons for things you think you see in a grainy slow motion video (e.g wedding ring switching fingers) that are not really what they appear. Why is it odd that the crime scene has been cleaned up? It’s on a public campus, I’m sure they do their best to get everything documented and cleared up so life can return to some semblance of normal for the students. Unlike on CSI, autopsy results are not immediately available. In Utah many take 60 days or longer. In the Bryan Kohberger case in Idaho, autopsy results were not released until he finally pled guilty and was sentenced, close to 3 years after the murders. The prosecution would not even release the results to the families, despite repeated requests from at least one of the families.
That is the danger in getting bogged down in conspiracy theory rabbit holes, everything suddenly becomes one, which I’m sure “they” are more than happy with as it means no one believes anything anymore, except that they are being lied to.
Luke 12:2 There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, and nothing hidden that will not be made known. 3 What you have spoken in the dark will be heard in the daylight, and what you have whispered in the inner rooms will be proclaimed from the housetops.
My take: Tyler Robinson was the patsy. The assassination was a Deep State operation. I’m surprised the Trump FBI and DOJ are participating in the cover up. Especially, since Trump’s assassination attempts were probably from the same Deep State playbook. The playbook goes back to the JFK assassination. The Deep State is both domestic and foreign. I’m not holding my breath that the real truth will ever be revealed.
Luke 12:2 There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, and nothing hidden that will not be made known. 3 What you have spoken in the dark will be heard in the daylight, and what you have whispered in the inner rooms will be proclaimed from the housetops.
IDK.I don’t think the “deep state “ would have missed if they really wanted to take Trump out..so,I think the “miss” was the purpose,or,it really was sloppy protection and a “lone gun man “…🙄
I watch Candace because of her outlandish theories! They make me laugh out loud… However, they are not all provably false. In fact, her theories about this crime and Jenna’s article today made we wonder if they are both reading/listening to each other. 😬
I hear you! I'm an attorney, and her consistent lack of facts AND misrepresentations (aka lies) drives me nuts, lol.
Candace:
"Charlie ate a hamburger.
Someone likes cows.
That someone must have killed Charlie."
She peddled a whole scandal about RFKJ, promised to follow up with her receipts, and never did. That was just one of her many false, and damaging, outlandish "theories" (lol, your word choice is spot on.) I just don't have time for her ridiculousness (amongst other things.).
Because LYING that outrageously needs to be exposed…..Brigette could have shut Candace down in a hot NY minute…..take an on camera DNA test. The fact that it won’t gives yards of credence to “Brigette is a dude”
Makes no sense that the parents would sacrifice their own children. FBI could be lying, there could be a coverup for some reason. But a through investigation takes time, so I’m giving it some time. I haven’t given up on Patel & Bongino yet. Will the investigation be memory holed like the Las Vegas shooting for example? Take 2 years to get a report with all the evidence? That’s a No go. The fact that there are so many crazy theories gumming up social media makes it difficult to not get fatigued on the whole thing. As always, lots of bots used to do lead to certain outcomes.
Luke 12:2 There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, and nothing hidden that will not be made known. 3 What you have spoken in the dark will be heard in the daylight, and what you have whispered in the inner rooms will be proclaimed from the housetops.
For those who see through the lies: The fact that they got away with it and continue to get away with it illuminates a chilling truth which is terrifying - terrifying enough that people who could expose it keep their mouths shut.
🎯 ~ And, it was all done right out in plain sight for all the rest of us to understand that we better keep our mouths shut, look the other way, and not rock the boat. . . . .
I am so with you here and it’s making me so irritated that so many people around me, who normally question literally everything the media says, are just accepting this shoddy explanation. I can’t let it go either.
I became so obsessed with trying to understand and to get to the truth -- which felt like it was right in front of me -- and yet out of reach! But why were people buying into it? I can't tell which end is up anymore.
They’re buying into it now, just like with the JFK assassination in 1963, and then 50 years later, they’ll readily admit that it was a CIA/deep state operation.
The few things I know for sure is we probably will never know the truth of what truly happened to Charlie Kirk and the other is Gods word is the only truth. HE says come to me all who are weary & burdened and I will give you rest.
Matthew 12:28.
I am there ♥️
Thank you Jenna, there are so many of us that agree.
Luke 12:2 There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, and nothing hidden that will not be made known. 3 What you have spoken in the dark will be heard in the daylight, and what you have whispered in the inner rooms will be proclaimed from the housetops.
The only thing that makes sense at this point is that this all a show.
The bizarre footages of his wife mourning over his coffin, giving a live televised speech days later while also accidentally saying that their daughter ran into their arms instead of just her arms, and all the masonic symbolism that many people have aptly pointed out points to all of this being produced and directed.
All of these things scream publicity, not crime scene. A set for a TV show or movie gets taken down this quickly. An actual crime scene has protocols and procedures that need to be followed in order to secure evidence for an investigation.
So glad to hear this take. When they released those pics of the real shooter on the steps, then showed the shooter in custody, I thought, “Are they blind— that’s not the same guy”. But it explains the clothes changing and running from the roof with no weapon then hiding it, after apparently Harry Pottering it into existence, in the woods, fully assembled… It just goes on and on even without the ridiculous emails. Goodness me, it turns out we’re better FBI agents than the FBI agents, Jenna!
The idea that the shooter ran and jumped from the roof is false and has been debunked. Slowing down the poor resolution video makes it obvious that he was carrying something long and thin such as a rifle wrapped in a towel.
Unfortunately it’s not just Charlie’s murder. Some of these shooters look incapable of feeding themselves let alone carry out a crime of this nature. There are too many unanswered questions to be comfortable with the story we are given. I pray for Truth.
Definitely not adding up at all. If you decide to watch Candace Owens - she has already confirmed Tyler’s parents never turned him in. ( it was a lie) Tyler is not suicidal, and the only reason he decided to turn himself in was to avoid being targeted or taken out . Not at all brought in for confession encouraged by his family. Candace - she saw footage from the cameras taken down immediately following and said there is nothing gory in that camera footage- nothing. ( because she is a close longtime friend of Charlie’s and she also has numerous contacts she knows who the individual is who removed the camera that was hanging on the tent wall directly behind him and was able to view that footage )from that individual. She cares deeply about her friend who she said has been like a brother to her and she is piecing things together. Not one thing adds up that the public was told . None of it. Sadly.
I attached a short clip that is recent and from the weekend. But I think it’s best to go back and watch a few of them to get an idea of what is going on.
Candace has lied in the past and been wrong many times. I don't trust anything she says. If his parents have confirmed this, then why are they not speaking out? Why isn't anyone reporting this? Candace is a nutcase.
Well according to Candace “Nutcase” Owens, his parents are now in witness protection and have been told not to talk to anyone. I get why you think she is a nutcase but she brings receipts and risks being sued for slander. I thought she had totally lost the plot with her Brigette Macron allegations. Until I watched the series. Oddly enough, she and Megyn Kelly had a mild rift several months ago and just two weeks ago Megyn was defending Candace strongly when a guest insinuated that she was a nutcase.
Thanks for your reply! She's been off on many things, including her episodes on RFKJ, where she dragged him and promised receipts and never came up with them. She has had many "theories" where she never gave the receipts. Moreover, she makes statements and then draws causality between them without having evidence of such causality. I just wrote the following to someone else:
Candace:
Charlie ate a hamburger.
Her alleged suspect liked cows.
Therefore that person shot Charlie.
What's her evidence that Tyler's parents said they never turned him in and are now in witness protection? Also, them being in witness protection has nothing to do with why no other "news" source/journalist is picking up what Candace is dropping. Sadly, she has lost all credibility for me, and yes, even a broken clock is right 2x a day.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼 I just saw that the letter between Charlie and Netenyahu that Candace questioned has been released and proves she was wrong and lying. Frankly, she just makes allegations and insinuations with zero facts (i.e., she just asks questions but has no evidence behind the insinuations in her questions.) It really surprises me that anyone believes anything she says.
What if it was Mossad, CIA or MI6 shooting from behind him? What if it was his security team with a palm gun or exploding microphone, and the Robinson kid was setup as the patsy. How does that revelation play out in the media and on the international political stage? Definitely less complicated to blame the Patsy and stick with that story no matter what.
He was shot from the front. The wound is not a typical entry wound, but it *must be* an entry wound, because it bears zero resemblance to an exit wound or an explosion.
Please go watch some of the many videos on YouTube posted by Paramount Tactical. (Tip: set speed to 2x to save time.)
I'm open to conspiracy theories that are consistent with those facts. But so far I have heard none
Frankly, if some nefarious agency or our government or Mossad wanted Kirk dead, there are easier ways than the theories I've heard so far. And possibly the easiest method is to radicalize someone like this suspect online.
Ah yes, a lifetime of conspiracies. Gee... you'd think maybe it would be a good idea to teach children "critical thinking"! Or we can just keep living in a land of sheep and learn to "baa" with the rest of them so we don't get yanked out of the herd and slaughtered with the other troublemakers.
I hope that the experiences of the COVID fraud persuade parents to the value of home schooling. Not that parents need assume the entire load, but . . . be a participant, follow what their children are being taught and reinforce it, or correct it as needed.
Some 70 years after grade school, I am still grumpy that civics and history were not taught so that I learned them. My parents never noticed.
"It is believed that the motto of today’s CIA, “and Ye Shall Know the Truth, and the Truth Shall Make You Free”, was derived from a passage in the Bible found in the book of John of the New Testament."
What Is The Official Motto Of The Cia - Secret services
Jenna, I’m afraid you’re spot on right here: “Which makes me wonder: do they even care if we notice? Or is the whole point to see how much nonsense we’ll swallow before we choke?” Anyone else starting to choke?
“We know that they are lying, they know that they are lying, they even know that we know they are lying, we also know that they know we know they are lying too, they of course know that we certainly know they know we know they are lying too as well, but they are still lying. In our country, the lie has become not just moral category, but the pillar industry of this country.”
― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
And until the pandemic (or maybe 9/11 for some), most in the U.S. thought that could only happen in Russia.
Far too many still do.
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's The Gulag Archipelago . . .
a book for waking up to the fact that humans are treacherous when awarded for, and commanded to submit to ungodly policies of a government.
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been choking since 1963.
You and me both, Dave.
Everyone would love for this to simply wrap up and go away, it simply won't because it doesn't add up.
MADHAVA SETTY, MD writes amazing articles about health, and even he's caught in this unexplainable 'story'.
https://madhavasetty.substack.com/p/the-anatomy-of-a-conspiracy-final
A few of his comments/thoughts to invite the full read and provide more information/perspective:
"First things first, the case against Tyler Robinson is obviously a frame. The text exchange purportedly between him and his romantic interest ties up all the loose ends like the last minute of every episode of Scooby-Doo.
There has been no autopsy.
The bullet which was fired from a high powered rifle which every gun expert on social media says would have blown the young Kirk’s head clean off was never recovered.
Without the bullet, there is no way to determine whether the weapon and Robinson was involved in the assassination.
What little video footage officially released to the public looks like it was taken from a security camera from a 7-11 in the last century.
To my understanding, “Lee Harvey” Robinson has not confessed to doing anything. But neither has he emphatically pleaded that he was “just a patsy”. Perhaps that is why he is still alive today.
Even more damning to the official story is the dogged reporting of another outspoken conservative voice and Kirk’s friend, Candace Owens, who spoke to Tyler Robinson’s family. His parents didn’t think their son, a model student and not a “gun enthusiast”, was involved.
According to Owens’ sources, Robinson and family reported to the police after a family friend who was a former law enforcement official warned them that authorities had pinned Kirk’s murder on Tyler and a violent confrontation would likely ensue. Tyler Robinson, it seems, reported to authorities to clear his name, not to confess.
And no, Robinson never sent that effusive series of texts that described his love for his boyfriend/roommate, political leanings of his father, the location where he hid the murder weapon and how it came into his possession in the first place, all while eluding a massive manhunt."
I thought the bullet was miraculously found under his skin?? They called him””Superman “ for that reason…was that a hoax?
Trust no one; question everything
This includes Trump, Patel, and Bongino. These are people who we have been brainwashed into believing are trustworthy when in fact they’re not.
that scares me... but you may be right :(
why would it scare you? no one makes it into puppet positions of presumed power without being a stooge. thats just a given. voting local may still matter.
and Vance
What bothers me is other big name people just go along and don’t question all these things that Jenna and the rest of us are here. Tucker?Megan Kelly? Feels like we are all being played.
I’m guessing that Tucker feels too vulnerable to question the inconsistencies in the narrative. He’s being attacked for being antisemitic, which could be a ploy to take him out of questioning the official claims about who carried out the assassination. I don’t know Megan Kelly’s history or courage in the topics she covers, but my sense is that she also needs to play it safe on this one. We’re fortunate to have a deep enough bench that when some have to play it safe others are courageous enough to make it clear that the official story doesn’t make sense, and to do so in a way that keeps them mostly above reproach.
Sure hope this is the case.
also, what I think matters most is how many are tuning in to the people who are speaking out about the issue, rather than how many are speaking out
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Patel and Bongino alike seem strangely altered since getting read in at the FBI - threats to their families? Extremely well done deepfake blackmail? Not sure but it's worrying, especially how in bed with lefty tech bros Trump 2.0 has been .
I think they all need for the grassroots to stay not buying and resisting the deep state propaganda. We’re all in this together, and the more we band together on the side of truth, the better off we’ll be in the long run.
Patel—big question mark. But Trump and Bongino? No. And @Someone else: Vance? No way.
"Truth-hunting fatigue is a real thing." - Ain't that the truth! Unless we have the humor skills of Jenna's writing, it's hard to get anyone to engage and think about issues. Some days you just don't want to bother any more.
Tried to make a comment to a liberal old lady friend about the Tylenol announcement and the base stupid mothers in those memes, that this has been known about for a long time. Her only reply was that people resent RFK jr not being a doctor and saying what he did. You hoo. The secretary of HHS is not required to be a doctor to head this. The doctors were standing around Bobby. The Secretary of War is not a 5 star general either. There have been only 2 doctor HHS secretaries. One President Trump appointed in his first term. Give me strength my God. She didn’t watch the announcement anyway because Bobby is icky.
Unfortunately, your friend probably doesn't realize how poorly educated MDs are. Oh sure, they spend many years in school learning anatomy, etc, but they do not learn HEALTH.
"Bobby is icky" - well, I'll take a million RFKs over one Flip Flop Fauci who is the epitome of "icky".
But the liberal old lady probably worships Bill Gates.
Did she like the predecessor, the bloke in skirts?
She doesn’t know who Bill gates but that shits are free at CVS
I'm thinking you meant "shots". But I like your version too 😉.
Get you free donut! All you have to do is poison yourself. If I recall correctly, at one point Minnesota was PAYING you $100 to poison yourself.
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This. We are all exhausted.
well spend a little time on it then lots of time on whatever feeds your soul.
Excellent advice. Overall I'm finding it hard to do (which is why I've been pretty pessimistic for the past five years).
Research and study *is* what "feeds my soul". What sucks my soul empty is the complete lack of concern by 99% of the population. Substack is a delightful oasis of good people, but even here it's hard to get much engagement and serious commenting.
Sadly,Substack is about the ONLY place I have found interesting,intelligent,like minded people…I could use a few actual humans in my sphere that I don’t have to keep my thoughts and opinions,to myself..but,in my extremely blue neighborhood,it’s not happening:(
Sometimes we have to find the actual humans in distant places! It's worth it when you do find them!
I do, then I cancel. Tired of the algorithms on any social platform, when I do get a reply, you hear the defeat, exhaustion in their reply. Or a thumbs up 👍 Does anyone still do door to door petitions, and can we have our representatives have to sign for them?? Oh, I nodded off for a second.
MeWe is the only social media I've stayed active on for the past eight years. No algorithms.
Oh. I’ve never heard of that…Hmmmm…MeWe?
MeWe is relatively small (tens of millions of users not billions) but I like it that way!
MeWe is "group" oriented, so you see only what you want to see. No algorithms. Join the groups you like (and leave them if they turn out undesirable). No advertising. No censorship. (each group moderates itself)
Thank you. Be looking for you. And honestly, I cannot stand being defeatist. So I’m picking myself up and brushed off my pants and keepin-on. See ya on MeWe
Yes. I take breaks for a week or 2 at a time, but inevitably some news or new development sucks me back in.
Solution: Don't watch the news. Read books. 😇
I don't watch much, but I do read - substacks, news sites, people send me stuff by the truckload & run newsletters for a couple of groups. Grew up a political/news junkie, my 5th grade teacher put me in charge of a current events bulletin board. Can't help myself, haha.
My friends drown me with more links than I have time to watch. I like reading, I don't have time to watch hours and hours of videos.
Same - I don't like video content - no links to sources and too little context, or it's a lot of jabbering by some influencer who adds time but not value. I do flip around and listen to talk radio in the car at times, but it's the same as video - 15-20 minutes of content in an hour.
Video is very inefficient. Hype without the content usually. I've even seen videos where the images don't even match what is being said.
I heard the microphone theory this weekend, told with absolute glee by someone I wouldn’t trust to mow my grass, he’s so fried from the drugs he’s done for the past 30 years.
Anyway, while I understand the questions, my take is that Tyler did shoot, he was primed by unknown bad actors, and the silence we are getting from the fbi and other government is because the are tracking and finding said bad actors.
It goes deep, and it does take time to find, document, and track to the ultimate top guy or group.
That’s my prayer actually.
Meanwhile, I’ve watched some of the TPUSA podcasts, and they have answered quite a few of the questions, with realistic answers.
So,yeah, I don’t think we will ever know the whole truth. I do feel comfortable in that it is being investigated, even if we don’t see it all right now.
Also I DO NOT think that his widow is in anyway responsible or knowledgeable of any wrong doing.
I feel that she is a strong hurt woman doing her best to keep his organization going, her children protected, and her sanity intact.
This is the most reasonable post I have seen here yet.
For anyone who wants to see what an exploding microphone might look like, go find videos of the Israeli pager explosions and compare.
There is no possible way this was an explosion. It was a high velocity projectile entering or exiting. And if you compare it to what real life entry and exit wounds look and behave like, you will quickly realize that it must be an entry wound.
Look for videos by Paramount Tactical on YouTube that make these arguments extremely hard to refute.
I was despairing for a bit that I was going to find any voices of reasons. Seriously, from that tiny mic it would be implausible to launch a projectile into the neck, at least without other visible injuries, blast marks, etc. There are also other things mentioned that have been debunked, such as the mysterious and supposedly very sinister shut down of the DQ—other reporting says it’s open and operating. I get why people look to other places for facts other than the MSM sources, but that does not mean every non-MSM source are bastions of factual reporting. Everybody and their dog is not an expert in video analysis, or wound analysis (not even avid hunters or former snipers). There are logical reasons for things you think you see in a grainy slow motion video (e.g wedding ring switching fingers) that are not really what they appear. Why is it odd that the crime scene has been cleaned up? It’s on a public campus, I’m sure they do their best to get everything documented and cleared up so life can return to some semblance of normal for the students. Unlike on CSI, autopsy results are not immediately available. In Utah many take 60 days or longer. In the Bryan Kohberger case in Idaho, autopsy results were not released until he finally pled guilty and was sentenced, close to 3 years after the murders. The prosecution would not even release the results to the families, despite repeated requests from at least one of the families.
That is the danger in getting bogged down in conspiracy theory rabbit holes, everything suddenly becomes one, which I’m sure “they” are more than happy with as it means no one believes anything anymore, except that they are being lied to.
Yes Teresa, I'm thinking along those same lines 🤔
Luke 12:2 There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, and nothing hidden that will not be made known. 3 What you have spoken in the dark will be heard in the daylight, and what you have whispered in the inner rooms will be proclaimed from the housetops.
My take: Tyler Robinson was the patsy. The assassination was a Deep State operation. I’m surprised the Trump FBI and DOJ are participating in the cover up. Especially, since Trump’s assassination attempts were probably from the same Deep State playbook. The playbook goes back to the JFK assassination. The Deep State is both domestic and foreign. I’m not holding my breath that the real truth will ever be revealed.
Luke 12:2 There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, and nothing hidden that will not be made known. 3 What you have spoken in the dark will be heard in the daylight, and what you have whispered in the inner rooms will be proclaimed from the housetops.
All the world is a stage. "Trump assassination attempts..." Ha. Dig deeper.
wore a bandage for 2 weeks???
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Not sure there is enough yet to conclude there was a conspiracy, but two things should be addressed or clarified:
# 1- why would Deep State, or any other group, target Kirk?
# 2- where is the autopsy?
@Skenny, who is the most dangerous to the Dem party? Imo, Charlie ( think youth vote) and Trump (think illegal alien vote).....
Call me naive, maybe. If the deep state targeted Kirk, i hope the shallow state would call them out.
Lol! I didn't know there was a shallow state! Good one 👍
Not surprised at all that it's being covered up. . . . It's been this way with the government since long before I was born in 1954 . . . .
All of this absurd Charlie Kirk theater served it's intended purpose, and now it's time for all of us to move on, whether we like it or not . . . .
you're surprised that one tentacle of deep state is participating in a coverup for another tentacle? hmmm
IDK.I don’t think the “deep state “ would have missed if they really wanted to take Trump out..so,I think the “miss” was the purpose,or,it really was sloppy protection and a “lone gun man “…🙄
I'm wondering why parents of this boy and parents of Crooks boy are sacrificing theirs sons for the narative!?!?
According to Candace Owens, Tyler Robinson's parents will not sacrifice their boy and Lance looks sketch.
"I don't KNOW know but I know. Ya know?"
Candace Owens is a terrible person to quote. Her theories have been proven false time again and again and again, including her theories about Charlie.
I watch Candace because of her outlandish theories! They make me laugh out loud… However, they are not all provably false. In fact, her theories about this crime and Jenna’s article today made we wonder if they are both reading/listening to each other. 😬
I hear you! I'm an attorney, and her consistent lack of facts AND misrepresentations (aka lies) drives me nuts, lol.
Candace:
"Charlie ate a hamburger.
Someone likes cows.
That someone must have killed Charlie."
She peddled a whole scandal about RFKJ, promised to follow up with her receipts, and never did. That was just one of her many false, and damaging, outlandish "theories" (lol, your word choice is spot on.) I just don't have time for her ridiculousness (amongst other things.).
why is it her business to pick fights with foreign leaders over their choice in spouse
Because LYING that outrageously needs to be exposed…..Brigette could have shut Candace down in a hot NY minute…..take an on camera DNA test. The fact that it won’t gives yards of credence to “Brigette is a dude”
I love it when Candace says that! 😆
Candice has become click bait. "I have the receipts!!!! Really!!!" [Then never produces the receipts...]
Makes no sense that the parents would sacrifice their own children. FBI could be lying, there could be a coverup for some reason. But a through investigation takes time, so I’m giving it some time. I haven’t given up on Patel & Bongino yet. Will the investigation be memory holed like the Las Vegas shooting for example? Take 2 years to get a report with all the evidence? That’s a No go. The fact that there are so many crazy theories gumming up social media makes it difficult to not get fatigued on the whole thing. As always, lots of bots used to do lead to certain outcomes.
Very good question, Claudia . . .
Absolutely correct Jenna! Unfortunately, I'm not hopeful we will ever know the truth at this point.
Luke 12:2 There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, and nothing hidden that will not be made known. 3 What you have spoken in the dark will be heard in the daylight, and what you have whispered in the inner rooms will be proclaimed from the housetops.
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For those who buy the lie: Their lying worked.
For those who see through the lies: The fact that they got away with it and continue to get away with it illuminates a chilling truth which is terrifying - terrifying enough that people who could expose it keep their mouths shut.
🎯 ~ And, it was all done right out in plain sight for all the rest of us to understand that we better keep our mouths shut, look the other way, and not rock the boat. . . . .
Candace Owens will not shut up or go away.
illuminates - you named them
I am so with you here and it’s making me so irritated that so many people around me, who normally question literally everything the media says, are just accepting this shoddy explanation. I can’t let it go either.
Sound a bit like, dare I say, the COVID pandemonium and the jabs from hell?
"Nothing to see here. Move right along."
I became so obsessed with trying to understand and to get to the truth -- which felt like it was right in front of me -- and yet out of reach! But why were people buying into it? I can't tell which end is up anymore.
They’re buying into it now, just like with the JFK assassination in 1963, and then 50 years later, they’ll readily admit that it was a CIA/deep state operation.
I feel like this is an insult to my intelligence.
The few things I know for sure is we probably will never know the truth of what truly happened to Charlie Kirk and the other is Gods word is the only truth. HE says come to me all who are weary & burdened and I will give you rest.
Matthew 12:28.
I am there ♥️
Thank you Jenna, there are so many of us that agree.
Amen sissy.
Luke 12:2 There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, and nothing hidden that will not be made known. 3 What you have spoken in the dark will be heard in the daylight, and what you have whispered in the inner rooms will be proclaimed from the housetops.
Constant humiliation rituals. But once one understands there's never going back.
The only thing that makes sense at this point is that this all a show.
The bizarre footages of his wife mourning over his coffin, giving a live televised speech days later while also accidentally saying that their daughter ran into their arms instead of just her arms, and all the masonic symbolism that many people have aptly pointed out points to all of this being produced and directed.
All of these things scream publicity, not crime scene. A set for a TV show or movie gets taken down this quickly. An actual crime scene has protocols and procedures that need to be followed in order to secure evidence for an investigation.
🎯 ~ 100%
So glad to hear this take. When they released those pics of the real shooter on the steps, then showed the shooter in custody, I thought, “Are they blind— that’s not the same guy”. But it explains the clothes changing and running from the roof with no weapon then hiding it, after apparently Harry Pottering it into existence, in the woods, fully assembled… It just goes on and on even without the ridiculous emails. Goodness me, it turns out we’re better FBI agents than the FBI agents, Jenna!
The idea that the shooter ran and jumped from the roof is false and has been debunked. Slowing down the poor resolution video makes it obvious that he was carrying something long and thin such as a rifle wrapped in a towel.
https://thenewneo.com/2025/09/13/where-was-the-rifle-when-tyler-robinson-jumped-off-the-roof/
Oops "ran and jumped from the roof"...with no gun.
Unfortunately it’s not just Charlie’s murder. Some of these shooters look incapable of feeding themselves let alone carry out a crime of this nature. There are too many unanswered questions to be comfortable with the story we are given. I pray for Truth.
Definitely not adding up at all. If you decide to watch Candace Owens - she has already confirmed Tyler’s parents never turned him in. ( it was a lie) Tyler is not suicidal, and the only reason he decided to turn himself in was to avoid being targeted or taken out . Not at all brought in for confession encouraged by his family. Candace - she saw footage from the cameras taken down immediately following and said there is nothing gory in that camera footage- nothing. ( because she is a close longtime friend of Charlie’s and she also has numerous contacts she knows who the individual is who removed the camera that was hanging on the tent wall directly behind him and was able to view that footage )from that individual. She cares deeply about her friend who she said has been like a brother to her and she is piecing things together. Not one thing adds up that the public was told . None of it. Sadly.
Do you have one Candace video in particular you recommend? Or do I need to review several to get a fuller picture?
You'll need to watch yesterday's live stream first.
If that one intrigues you at all go back.
Spoiler Alert: It's 🔥
https://www.youtube.com/live/ZGxnf5cj4Uw
Great! Thanks so much for sharing, UM! Much appreciated. 👍
My pleasure MZ.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/0bGtziIuWoY
I definitely look forward to reviewing!
I attached a short clip that is recent and from the weekend. But I think it’s best to go back and watch a few of them to get an idea of what is going on.
Many thanks, Faith. Much appreciated. 🙏
Candace has lied in the past and been wrong many times. I don't trust anything she says. If his parents have confirmed this, then why are they not speaking out? Why isn't anyone reporting this? Candace is a nutcase.
Well according to Candace “Nutcase” Owens, his parents are now in witness protection and have been told not to talk to anyone. I get why you think she is a nutcase but she brings receipts and risks being sued for slander. I thought she had totally lost the plot with her Brigette Macron allegations. Until I watched the series. Oddly enough, she and Megyn Kelly had a mild rift several months ago and just two weeks ago Megyn was defending Candace strongly when a guest insinuated that she was a nutcase.
Thanks for your reply! She's been off on many things, including her episodes on RFKJ, where she dragged him and promised receipts and never came up with them. She has had many "theories" where she never gave the receipts. Moreover, she makes statements and then draws causality between them without having evidence of such causality. I just wrote the following to someone else:
Candace:
Charlie ate a hamburger.
Her alleged suspect liked cows.
Therefore that person shot Charlie.
What's her evidence that Tyler's parents said they never turned him in and are now in witness protection? Also, them being in witness protection has nothing to do with why no other "news" source/journalist is picking up what Candace is dropping. Sadly, she has lost all credibility for me, and yes, even a broken clock is right 2x a day.
Once a day when you use a 24 hour clock.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼 I just saw that the letter between Charlie and Netenyahu that Candace questioned has been released and proves she was wrong and lying. Frankly, she just makes allegations and insinuations with zero facts (i.e., she just asks questions but has no evidence behind the insinuations in her questions.) It really surprises me that anyone believes anything she says.
What if it was Mossad, CIA or MI6 shooting from behind him? What if it was his security team with a palm gun or exploding microphone, and the Robinson kid was setup as the patsy. How does that revelation play out in the media and on the international political stage? Definitely less complicated to blame the Patsy and stick with that story no matter what.
He was shot from the front. The wound is not a typical entry wound, but it *must be* an entry wound, because it bears zero resemblance to an exit wound or an explosion.
Please go watch some of the many videos on YouTube posted by Paramount Tactical. (Tip: set speed to 2x to save time.)
I'm open to conspiracy theories that are consistent with those facts. But so far I have heard none
Frankly, if some nefarious agency or our government or Mossad wanted Kirk dead, there are easier ways than the theories I've heard so far. And possibly the easiest method is to radicalize someone like this suspect online.
The CIA sure did a great job of vilifying anyone positing “conspiracy theories”.
Which at this point in my life, I’m inclined to believe all that we’ve ever been told were indeed conspiracies.
Ah yes, a lifetime of conspiracies. Gee... you'd think maybe it would be a good idea to teach children "critical thinking"! Or we can just keep living in a land of sheep and learn to "baa" with the rest of them so we don't get yanked out of the herd and slaughtered with the other troublemakers.
Government schools do not teach critical thinking.
Parents and a few rare teachers are the hope for the future... and in my eyes that's a dim hope. Everyone is too busy "surviving".
John 10:10 The thief comes only in order to steal and kill and destroy. I came that they may have and enjoy life, and have it in abundance
I hope that the experiences of the COVID fraud persuade parents to the value of home schooling. Not that parents need assume the entire load, but . . . be a participant, follow what their children are being taught and reinforce it, or correct it as needed.
Some 70 years after grade school, I am still grumpy that civics and history were not taught so that I learned them. My parents never noticed.
70 Yrs? "Girl" is quite a euphemism.
I want to be under the radar - with internet readers.
My age is irrelevant.
Fair 'nough
Critical thinking died right along with all of the unfortunate victims of the COVID jabs . . . .
Yes, 2020 revealed just how little critical thinking is done.
"It is believed that the motto of today’s CIA, “and Ye Shall Know the Truth, and the Truth Shall Make You Free”, was derived from a passage in the Bible found in the book of John of the New Testament."
What Is The Official Motto Of The Cia - Secret services
https://www.doubleagentspy.com/what-is-the-official-motto-of-the-cia/
Corrupted by mission creep and "national interests".
Legitimizes it immediately in my eyes, at least enough to take a closer look . . . .