Allow me to comment as a law enforcement spouse. My husband was a police officer in Norfolk, Virginia for 5 years, where we buried 3 of his friends who were killed in the line of duty and has been with Louisville Metro Police Department for 18 years, including several years as a homicide detective (including 2020 when Breonna Taylor was killed by a police officer after her boyfriend shot a cop who was serving a warrant in the femoral artery). What non LEO families do not understand is that the narrative around police shootings by the media is always one sided and always makes the officer the villain (except in the case of Michael Byrd, who killed Ashli Babbitt). Some of the past narratives have never been corrected, and friends of mine still believe the "hands up don't shoot" narrative about Michael Brown (later determined to be a justified shoot by the cop). They still believe Breonna Taylor was an innocent EMT, not involved with drug dealers and some even believe the cops served the warrant on the wrong house and that they did NOT knock (they knocked repeatedly, which was their mistake in hindsight). Renee Good was a victim of indoctrination by Democrats, including their media, and she was used as a pawn by a highly funded group of radicals who want to see the American experiment fail, i.e. Marxists. I pray that my husband never gives a person the benefit of the doubt if he finds himself in a situation where a person is apparently prepared to use a 4 ton vehicle as a weapon. While he says he would have used different "tactics" and likely would not have been in this position, the reality is that she was told to get out of the car, and she did not comply. She made several decisions that day that unfortunately led to her death. Lastly, Minnesota is corrupt. If you have not watched the documentary about George Floyd, produced by Liz Collin and others, I highly recommend it. Liz basically lost her job as an anchor at a local news station in Minneapolis, because she was married to a cop and was not willing to lie about what happened. https://www.thefallofminneapolis.com
Thank God Elon Musk bought Twitter. We were censored in 2020 for trying to tell the truth about Breonna. John Mattingly wrote a book about the whole debacle. Several officers lives (and their families) were ruined, and many of them had to move, due to death threats from Breonna's family. I am not saying there aren't corrupt cops, but most of them are trying to do what is right and trying to survive to come home to their families. Once they retire, many of them die young, due to years of poor sleep and living in fight or flight. Husband told me last week that the average age of death of cops is 59.
Dr. Molly Rutherford, on top of that how many law enforcement officers are dying relatively young (age 59 is relatively young to me as a 71 year old) because they were forced to get the mRNA Covid shots in order to keep their jobs?
True. I'm sure the shots contribute. LMPD did not mandate, but merely coerced with "bonus" money. Husband got a medical exemption due to history of Gillian Barre (he was paralyzed at age 11), so he still got the bonus. Hard to believe people were bribed to get an experimental shot. Unethical.
That’s heart wrenching. I had no idea that the average age was 59 for cops dying. Even given that being killed young on the job skews the number somewhat, this is so sad. 💔😥
I agree with you 1000%. Floyd was a criminal and drug addict who served nothing but himself and his immoral addictions . Renee Good is Renee Bad as she interferred where she did not belong and set out that day with a premeditated and intentional agenda to hurt ICE any way she could. A premeditated and intentional decision to be where she was not supposed to be. It was her fault no matter how or why or who influenced her. She entered at her own risk. Please tell your husband I thank him for being a first responder and protector of the people. Those people that hate cops, call the social worker when you are raped, home invaded, robbed, beat up. Let us know how that works out for you.
Thank you for commenting. I hope your husband knows that regular, God fearing, neighbor loving normies are grateful for his service and support Ross because: common sense. I have to wonder about the Giant Void in a life that causes a human being to sop up the extreme lies without any curiosity about the other side of the story...
You are totally correct! My grandson is a LEO. They are constantly in jeopardy … not just from the criminals they pursue, but from crazies who think they have the right to interfere. Not to speak of the cold blooded assassinations of LEOs by such cowards.
"Renee Good was a victim of indoctrination by Democrats, including their media, and she was used as a pawn by a highly funded group of radicals who want to see the American experiment fail, i.e. Marxists."
Times hundreds of cities.
Thanks for the insight and appreciate you as a spouse as well as your Hubs. That is not an easy position for either of you...waiting waiting each day and praying he makes it home safely.
I am a Bering Sea wife, so I know all about sending your other half out to make the living and praying you see them again at the end of their work day or work months. ♥
I can't imagine having people who would want to expire him, on top of that. You are made of steel, woman.
Doc Molly, please thank your husband for his service to the public. He probably doesn't hear it enough. I know my stepson and grandson do not, as sheriff's deputies.
As for anyone defending Good or any other "protester" - Protesting something should have you well out of the firing line and not between parties, anyone that asks you to get between does not care about you and is not interested in the fallout to you. You can tote signs, chant, film, march, sound off, ask questions, etc; all perfectly legal under the first amendment. BUT- Once you step in between, you are no longer a protester, but have announced you have become a combatant. That is not protesting and is not covered by free speech. Be prepared for the consequences of your actions, whatever that may end up being.
Protest away, I (and most Americans) do not care. We can agree or disagree peacefully on most subjects. Mess with our law enforcement who are just trying to do the damn job to the best of their abilities, and to come home SAFE to their families.... well, you will not like having me and those like me on your juries afterwards. Because most of these orgs are so busy trying to demonize them forget that these law enforcement are people who are part of the community, they have families and people who care about them. We will not allow you to denigrate them or harm them without a fight.
Dr. Molly, thank you for your comments. I 100% agree with you. My son is a law enforcement officer and I also pray that he "never gives a person the benefit of the doubt if he finds himself in a situation..." such as this....
It is a tragedy and from all sides it is full of remorse. This woman put herself in this situation, made defiant decision, one after another, that unfortunately, tragically, led to her death. But to say that she shares no responsibility in her own death is blind ignorance.
as the proud mom of a local officer here in NW Indiana (SWAT trained and also the president of his local FOP, with hopes of moving up in the state FOP organization, which is all volunteer, btw) Thank You Molly, for your perspective and your detailed comment!
people always need to be reminded that our loved ones put themselves in harm's way, every day, because they choose a life of service to their community. they don't ask someone's background or politics before racing onto a dangerous scene. they are trained to DE escalate when civilians like this 'Good' woman have chosen TO escalate, deliberately. to the ones holding her up as some sort of martyr: do you people think that the illegals you are supposedly 'defending' would do the same for you?? the answer would be a resounding: HELL NO! would your local police officer? you better believe THEY would! 'nuff said.
God bless you for your honesty. God bless your husband and all law enforcement officers who have not given up on their profession.
I know several police officers and it is often a very thankless job, especially today. It’s easy to armchair what you might do but you don’t and can’t know what you will do when seconds count and your life is in danger.
My heart breaks for the officer who killed Ms. Good because I understand in the aftermath of killing someone, no matter how justified, weighs heavily on one’s soul. My heart also breaks for Ms. Good because she let herself get carried away and lead astray by a movement who cares not whether she lived or died. Unfortunately, this situation is likely to be repeated as long as the lunatics keep pushing out their propaganda.
As the wife of a now-retired Federal Agent, thank you for all of this!!!! While I do not watch the media, I do not offer any opinions, because sadly we will never get the facts. Citizens, responsible citizens, always should weigh facts, then realize the truth is somewhere in the middle, and a lot of that we will never know. Facts do NOT equal truth. But making claims on minimal information, coming from the media, is just ignorant. So I will continue to not have an opinion, but continue to research and hold all in offices accountable for their actions. Then utilize my privilege and right to vote them in or out. And continue to study the Constitution and really know what I am responsible for, which is not in the court of public opinion.
Who ever dreamed that being in law enforcement in America would be like going to war in Afghanistan or Iraq? Prayers for your husband and all the others.
Some people support illegal immigration, the majority oppose it. The law is on the side of those who oppose it.
If those who support it resort to violence and/or obstruction, they become criminals. Arrest them. Renee Good agitated and escalated to physical violence. Her choice.
I can't imagine a positive outcome going out and messing with the cops like that. It's hard to understand someone who gets to that point of behaving so recklessly.
Perhaps consequences to date haven't been sufficient?
I think there's a dual mindset embodied by some on the Left, or at least some of the protesters on the Left:
1. The cops are the minions of the fascist state, here to do the bidding of the dictator and terrorize the populace.
2. The cops are here to protect and serve, and as a white person, they're not going to hurt me.
In most of the protests I've seen (and this might be due to the demographics here), it's mostly older, mostly white people - and I would say it's mostly women - holding signs and chanting slogans. They're aging hippies who were antiwar activists in their teens and 20s, women who read Gloria Steinem in the 70s and voted strictly Democrat all their lives, even as the Dems started supporting foreign wars in the 90s. They grew older and didn't seem to notice when their party started acting like the Republicans with whom they historically disagreed. They excused the deeds of the Clintons, were vehemently opposed to GW Bush (but ended up LOVING Dick Cheney's daughter - never figured that one out), and voted in Obama as an antidote to the Bush years, and to "finally" have a Black man elevated to the highest office in the land.
Obama didn't work out as they'd hoped, and started breaking promises immediately (like closing the Gitmo and not pursuing the Bush admin as war criminals). Obama turned out to be (big) business as usual, with a dash of race-baiting and socialism on the side. They don't like to be reminded of the 7 wars started by Obama, because these Vietnam-era libs experience cognitive dissonance when confronted by inconvenient truths like that.
Trump incensed them so much that they thought they voted in the Autopen, and raced down the road to the extreme Left so far and so fast that they're experiencing a sort of whiplash when the course-correcting U-turn was pulled last year. I think their confusion about authority is a manifestation of the G-forces they're experiencing from the rapid changes in a political landscape they never anticipated.
This woman Good is obviously not of that older generation, but had become caught up in the brainwashing and rhetoric of a party that has lost all sense of any kind of moral center.
Thank you for your comment. I agree. We must live in similar demographic places. It is the white liberal (democrat) women who for the most part, who are the most insufferable. I have a fellow Conservative buddy who is black. He has been verbally attacked by some of these people, cursing and shouting out all types of slurs. My favorite is “Racist!” He never backs down. It is astonishing that these self-important lunatics feel justified in being so disgusting. It is the intense anger that seems to drive their hatred.
My mother (79) spits vitriol on Facebook like a machine gun. You can feel the malevolence. She proudly calls herself a militant feminist. Every accomplishment of mine (as a solo proprietor) is heralded as a proud blow against the patriarchy but doesn’t appear to be connected to my own efforts.
Every one of my sister’s favorite movies is one she refers to as a feminist triumph. (I am sorry but Melissa McCartney playing against the fat trope isn’t about feminism - it’s just inverted stereotypes.)
Both of them are screaming into the void. Neither will tolerate the merest hint of an ideological challenge. They’ve outsourced their personalities and critical thinking to demonstrate their in-group cred. But really they’re just fighting the inevitable irrelevance of aging. They let their ideas become their identity (thank you @elgatomalo). Irrelevance is existential threat to them because there is no longer any there, there to give them context.
Good points. I know women like that. Thankfully, my mother, God rest her soul, was sensible until she died at age 93. I hated that she had to be stressed by living her last years in a retirement home, surrounded by obnoxious democrats. They were condescending and loud about their hatred of Trump. It seems that it has become okay to air upset and grievance to the point of delusional and sometimes dangerous levels. It is no wonder that Somali immigrants figured out that it would be easy to defraud Americans, given they basically had an open door to do so. People like “prancing about Walz” and the American hating Ilhan Omar and the weeping Portland Police Chief should be uncommon and complete embarassments. And certainly should have never been in those respective positions in the first place. There is plenty of blame to go around. But the source of the decline in American values and standard of living is undeniably on the Left.
I'd add that one of the biggest ironies is these people proclaiming a fascist state, yet not being arrested for acts of violence and civil unrest directed at the state, proving that perhaps the state is not fascist after all.
But there we go using logic to counter emotional hysteria like our poster below.
Dear Lord! Other than anti-war activist, you have me to a “T” … until 1991 when I met my husband …. A conservative man who led me to the truth. Even without him, I wouldn’t have voted for that sniveling con Obama.
Hey, I have to shamefully admit a lot of that was ME too... Just out of high school, I hated Reagan, mostly because he seemed to be playing a very dangerous game with the Russians and toying with the idea of "survivable" nuclear war. I also detested the "Moral Majority" with all their TV preachers and grandstanding. Didn't like Bush, either - the wall fell and somehow we were cheated out of our "peace dividend" when the scare machine was switched to Muslim Terrorists.
I registered Democrat when W was elected - I hated everything about that man, and voted for Obama the first time, because at least he appeared to speak intelligently. But then I began leaning heavily towards Libertarian when Obama failed to represent my values so spectacularly. He took 9/11 off the table, failed to close the Gitmo, and drone-bombed civilians, among his other failures. I was hoodwinked. But a little wiser.
In 2016 I was beyond caring - I hated Hillary but Trump seemed like a blowhard whose voice would drive me up the wall at every speech. I was glad she was defeated, and kind of warmed to Trump, particularly when I saw how viciously the Dems were going after him. My life was better under Trump, at least until Covid - that's when everything went off the rails.
It was only after Trump defeated KamelToes that I began to feel like I could start considering my future again - for four years I was paralyzed, wondering when I was going to end up in some gulag for defying the US genetic experimentation program.
Now I'm seeing an improving economy, some hope for the future, and leadership that represents some of my interests.
You definitely pointed out the convenience of shying away from the truth when it is staring them right in the face. But you forgot the Alzheimer's or Dementia that has set in on the boomers. Luckily, I didn't jump on any of those bandwagons except for the lack of equal treatment between men and women regardless of race. The medical system and medical insurance being the biggest culprit in inequality.
The ones I've seen aren't suffering from dementia or alzheimer's.. It's some other sickness that's taken over their brains - it's related to OCD... I can't remember the letters... ; )
That they let "protestors" get away with the things they do is contributing heavily to the proliferation and continued antics of these people.
It's a balancing act, but letting people shoot explosives, hurl rocks at moving cars and completely break down social order is not helping supressing this behavior.
no. it was the choice of the person holding the gun. no gun, no murder, no problem. blocking my 'legally authorized operation' is now justified homicide?
The "person holding the gun" did not make the choice to obstruct law enforcement by blocking the roadway with a vehicle. Renee Good did.
She chose to be there, she chose to obstruct, she chose to agitate, she chose to escalate, she chose to press the accelerator. She chose to support illegal immigration. She chose to oppose law enforcement.
o my goodness. whatever we do, we must never obstruct law enforcement. no matter how corrupt or unconstitutional. makes me wonder just what would ever cause you, yes you personally, to obstruct law enforcement.
Seems obvious. Good believed that operation was unjust, unlawful or immoral in some way, hence the choices she made. I think the point is that regardless of all those choices, none of them add up to deserving getting shot in the face point blank. The entire episode shows how far gone law enforcement is by now, that they weren’t able to deescalate that situation and one of them killed a woman because he got nudged by her fender.
Peaceful protests are legal. Obstructing an ICE operation with your vehicle is NOT. Good should have complied to the multiple “get out of the car” instruction……and gotten out of the car! Instead, she gunned it. And that is why she was shot.
I never knew that getting nudged by a fender wasn't considered attempted assault with a deadly weapon, huh. Have you tried nudging an LEO with your fender? Let me know how that works out. SMH
For pretty much for the entire history of human existence, if you actively confront law enforcement performing its mandated duty, you risk personal injury, detainment or worse.
And lol, you give yourself away. But props for not saying the word fascism.
Jeez, Nancy, it's as if you didn't even read Jenna's post.
I don't think the officer was "making choices" in that moment. Lots of things happened in a short amount of time. Both people involved brought their baggage to the scene. One thought an act of civil disobedience that didn't even require her stepping out of her car would be heroic. The other harbored painful memories of a previous experience of a criminal using a car as a weapon against him. He reacted by instinct against a perceived threat.
Oh obviously in your world it was the ”gun” and the person who was at the other end of the “gun” that is responsible here. Not Miz Good, who in and of itself, made some bad decisions for herself that day, and who apparently used her vehicle as a battering ram to try and mow down some people on said day. And what’s with the “wife” filming it all? A made for Tik Tok “video of the week” perhaps? To post later? To support “the cause”?
Frontera Lupita, my guess is the lesbian partner(dressed like a middle school 14 year old boy) was 1) filming for Tiktok views ($) and perhaps in order to be paid by the Ice Watch organizers who recruited the two of them.
Sounds totally legit. Now what if they were both in fact “crisis actors” in this whole thing and Miz Renee Nicole Gold isn’t even dead? Just spirited away to wait for her next “assignment”? Yet another PsyOp designed to rile up people on both the ‘left’ and the ‘right’ in justification for the future implementation of “marshall law”.
As to your choosing. Just keep in mind that many of the ‘events’ that have happened here in the USA for the last 25 plus years, (and beyond) the ‘official narrative’ has nothing to do with what really happened, how it all “came down” and who was behind them.
Turns out that the Officer suffered internal bleeding from being hit by the vehicle. So, there goes the false narrative that he wasn’t hit. Now to add further insult to that injury, the attorney for the disgusting, pathetic, drug addict criminal, woman abuser Floyd, who died of whatever illegal drug he was on, is now going to represent another reprehensible “accomplice” to the actions of her partner that lead to her being killed. I just cannot despise the media and the America-hating Left enough. They are diabolical.
Now that was a fantasy sainthood write-up! I suspect we’ll see a statue of Renee erected soon. The author of this article whitewashes their actions vs their self-created values. This perfect Christian couple’s actions brought about a horrible result for all involved. I am very sorry for her death and I pray for her soul and for her children.
I had hoped Renee’s and her late husband’s son had family to raise him in reality- no grandparents, aunts & uncles? I do hope the other two children are included in this money fund. I did read elsewhere ( can’t remember source) that these two women never finalized their “marriage.” I don’t apologize for believing in God’s creation and plan for marriage.
Yes, she should be arrested and charged with "depraved indifference to human life." By her own recorded admission, she instigated an action that resulted in a death.
I think it is relevant. Something has agitated the lesbian community into taking action against conservatives in general and Trump in particular. It strikes me it is an offshoot of the Great Feminization of American culture. Is it because they despise men , unlike Tim Walz(who tend to be sometimes less than manly?) who they see as testosterone driven, like Trump who after all is a man’s man? Whatever it is, lesbians have come a long way since the days of “Boston marriages.” Whatever it is, Becca and Renee’s relationship is relevant somehow or no one would have said anything about it in the news accounts.
They never do as it is cheer cheer cheer lgbtq. What they do in the privacy of their homes is their business but I am sick and tired of hearing about it ad nauseum all the time.
Lori, I am old enough to remember when homosexuals said “we just want tolerance.” That was the beginning of the slippery slope where we now have public perversion parades with small children attending, active grooming of children by predatory homosexual pedophiles, and gender-benders actually believing they can be the opposite sex.
Pretty sure it is. Lesbians seem to be well represented among Looney Liberals who think they are ordained to support and defend criminals, especially criminal illegal aliens. And, to thwart their legal arrest and prosecution.
I think using the term "murder" in the topic for the poll was the wrong choice, it may not have legally been a "murder". Other than that I think you are spot on.
The people who sponsor these protest are hoping that one of their pawns are killed. Before volunteering to be one of their protesters, people should really think if this virtue signalling is worth the risk that you are taking. There are much more constructive things that you could do.
I saw a video yesterday by a guy who's been protesting his whole life. And he talked about how, when an officer says hands behind your back, or WHATEVER they tell you, you COMPLY. You fight back IN COURT, you don't fight with the officers.
I've been feeling VERY odd watching this unfold, because almost everyone I know is beside themselves, holding up hear death as proof of our fascist government, etc etc - I even saw a post by someone locally talking about how we needed to understand how dire the situation is when ICE is shooting peaceful law abiding white women, who normally get a pass from the police. And I'm like...um...law abiding? She was blocking an operation. And they told her repeatedly to get out of her car. She did not stop. Why are people not able to see this?
I've also seen numerous commenters saying she didn't actually hit him, his bodycam footage is jostled because he's pulling out his gun, it's not because he was clipped. That he threw himself on the hood to kill her deliberately.
Is that possible? I guess so. I'm not sure that's the most likely answer. Though anything's possible.
Regardless of whether or not he was actually clipped, SHE WAS NOT COMPLYING.
I obviously do not think that means she deserved to get shot in the head. But she was playing a dangerous game. She won the worst prize.
Her wife, yelling "drive, baby, drive" before Renee took off, should be charged with something.
Officers are trained to shoot if someone is threatening their life, because if they don’t, that person will likely kill the officer or kill someone else. It’s just part of the training and it’s for a reason. I know it’s tragic and difficult to understand, but I have many friends or police officers, and have been put in that situation.
Correct. One of my friends (a black cop) shot a man threatening him with a knife on duty a few years ago. He was put on administrative leave for a LONG time while the incident was investigated and was eventually cleared of any wrongdoing. Y'all never heard about that incident, right? I wonder why.
I saw the video on X of that guy who explained exactly the difference between legal and illegal protests. These protests are designed to be illegal, cross a line, and risk death for those protesting. In my opinion the organizers are especially reaching out to women since women are more sympathetic figures than men. Renee Good was the perfect narrative builder: female, mom, and poet. The cynicism of these people is vile.
I was still on the other side then. I do remember it. From the other side when I was still a liberal progressive. I haven't looked into it again, would be very interesting to see it with my current eyes....
My kids were kicked out of school for being unvaccinated when NYC repealed our right to an exemption. It took that to realize that despite my being a good little liberal progressive my whole life, Democrats didn't want me to have any medical say over my body or my children's bodies (unless of course I were to want an abortion). I was overwhelmed by the hypocrisy of it all and started questioning everything. And then Covid - seeing how absolutely psychotic the Dems/liberals were during that whole time put me over the edge.
There is something mentally off when a man protests his whole life. Does he have nothing better to do like work or volunteer at a homeless shelter or work with a local charity? Sounds like the guy has no peace in his life and always looking to fight something.
And Renee had no reason to be there. She gets the igorant prize of the year posthumously.
I mean, maybe he does that also? Who knows. But one thing we know is that he DOES know how to protest without getting himself into dangerous situations.
I checked other because your poll question read “murder” which tosses out all the options not fitting the legal definition . Her death was unfortunate but was a result of her actions.
There’s something wrong with any situation where a mom gets children removed from her custody. There’s something wrong when a woman with children has so little regard for them that she goes head to head with law enforcement to prove a point that can’t be justified. Video of her partner shows her to be insulting, dismissive and out for a fight. This woman behaved stupidly with no regard for those who depended on her. It’s a shame she had to die for her stupidity but I feel much more for her children.
What I want to know is why no one is talking about how the government of MN and Minneapolis are also culpable in this situation. States that declare themselves sanctuary states are not only violating the supremacy clause of the constitution, they’re putting federal officers in position to be hurt, their public in positions to be hurt, in situations like this. It’s easy for protests to turn into interference, and the LOCAL COPS should be there to make sure that protests remain lawful so the federal agents can do their lawful duties.
It all started with the Biden administration opening the borders and letting these people in. Had they not done that, ICE wouldn't need to be going around trying to round up all the criminals, then people wouldn't be protesting ICE. It all leads back to Biden.
How convenient for Tim Walz. Instead of being tarred and feathered and driven out of his elected office, he's elevated to the level of Pope in canonizing a saint. The level of hypocrisy rises in equal measure to the level of fraud.
Good point! He may not have been thinking just about himself, but selflessly about his fellow officers. She obviously was escalating the danger and refusing to follow orders.
There is no "tragedy" here... the word "tragedy" is used to evoke feelings... sentiments... There is only a simple consequence of someone's actions... and that's all there is. Life has consequences based on one's actions... and life doesn't care how anyone feels about its consequences... life doesn't care if anyone likes or dislikes its consequences. When a law enforcement officer tells you to "Get out of the phucking car!"... no matter if that law enforcement officer is municipal, state, or federal... You had better "Get out of the phucking car!"... Period! No discussion, no argument... and certainly no defiant alternative actions... again PERIOD! A woman is dead because she thought that her feelings were more important, more legitimate, and more sanctified than a lawful order by an armed officer of the law, who thought her subsequent actions constituted a threat to his life... If there is any "tragedy" here, it's otherwise known by its legitimate name... "stupidity"... Play stupid games... win stupid prizes.
Quite frankly, I'm tired of the distraction... and that is exactly what this entire conflaguration is... nothing more... nothing less... than an act of arson set to serve as a distraction! A distraction from the tower of fraud built in Minnesota by Tampon Tim, his Somali soulmate, Ilhan Omar, and who knows who else... Where else and by whom this fraud has been built, we don't yet know... But when we get past the bullshit, we're certain to find out... and that is what the perps are afraid of.
I have to object to the title of today's poll: "The murder of Renee Good was..." She was _killed,_ not _murdered._ (Perhaps it's just a callback to the article's clickbait/ironic title, but the subtitle explicitly points out it's the internet's version and not the author's opinion)
I have liberal fatigue by 1,000,000,000. And I agree with Barbara. This is too extreme and writing squishy like you did just has to stop. The facts are the facts. She was wrong. He protected himself according to state and federal law. She and the liberal activist caused this to occur. She was the sacrificial lamb that the left was looking for. Now the Insurrection Act will be activated and these creatures will be eliminated soon. Not in killed eliminated. But stopped.
The fault lies completely at the feet of leadership who fanned the flames and encouraged citizens to “resist ICE” at all costs. It lies at the feet of the organizations that train “protesters” to engage AND escalate (including using vehicles to box agents in) in the hope that they will then “give up.” Another tactic used in training is to use “sympathetic characters,” women and the elderly, so as things escalate, the public sympathy will lay with the protesters, not law enforcement. Renee Good was a Pawn. She played her part, leadership got their wish, and they continue to fan the flames, and the public continues to buy into it. Both sides. Instead of calling out Leadership and the organizers, we dig in and promote and protect the narrative of our choosing (I, too, am guilty of this). It’s time to go after the REAL perps. Waltz, the Mayor, every Legislator making inflammatory remarks, all of the organizations behind this madness. This has to end. Yes, good was nuts. But she was also a mom. And a poet (although a really bad and angry one). And now she’s dead. Her children lost a mother. The ICE officer will have to live with this FOREVER. All because we are pawn in their stupid little game.
I did reference the leaders, liberal activists. And the President and Sec Noem are mentioning the funders and leaders. However in this time we have a weak and ineffective DOJ Blondi is bought and paid for as it seems. If this was Merrick Garland in the AG spot the whole right would be in jail for the next 100 years without trial. We, the conservatives, are weak. And Blondi's history suggested she would act just like this.
The polarization of society is very disturbing. Life is not "black and white". Life is full of decisions and mistakes are a part of life. Yet, we seem to be in a mode where large parts of society take everything to extremes.
We should be able to protest safely, but that also requires us to be careful in our protesting. Confrontation elevates conflict into greater risk of mistakes with more serious consequences.
John, the only ones violently protesting are those on the left. Thousands of Tea Party rallies across America and never any behavior like this (unless leftist agitators crashed them). And January 6th is not included as that “insurrection” was infiltrated by FBI informants and antifa agitators (dressed up as MAGA Trump supporters) hired to create chaos and violence.
I did not see anything like this when Charlie Kirk was actually murdered. I saw people gathering in candlelight ceremonies, praying and singing hymns like "Amazing Grace." No one that I witnessed, was violent. I saw 300 people gather in solemn mourning here in Vermont of all places.
John, the extremes do not matter to me if the facts are TRUE. In this case my bet is on the left lying 99.9%. Whether the right’s claims about Good losing custody of two of the three children because the lesbian partner put cigarettes out on their arms or not is irrelevant. As are Andy Ngo’s X posts showing Good’s mother was paying a lot of her expenses. But Good’s connections to BLM and Ice Watch are relevant. This does not make Good a monster, it makes her complicit.
she is a monster if for one second she allowed her partner to burn cigs into a childs arm. if my partner did that, it would be the last he ever did anything. and it is relevant bc it shows her character is shit, her parental duties are shit and she is not of sound mind. Period.
Lori, my reference was to Jenna’s questioning whether this information being shared by those of us on the conservative side was truthful or helpful to the actual crime Good committed against the ICE officer. I agree with you that if it is true she is an unfit mother who deserved to lose custody of the children involved in that abuse.
The “training” these “activists” receive is disturbing. They are trained to escalate, and to use sympathetic characters (women, the elderly) in an effort to thwart LEO action. If there IS ACTION, as there was in this case, public opinion will be on their side. It works every time. Very different from conservative protests. No paid actors. No training. No agenda other than getting the message out. And a deep respect for law enforcement.
Allow me to comment as a law enforcement spouse. My husband was a police officer in Norfolk, Virginia for 5 years, where we buried 3 of his friends who were killed in the line of duty and has been with Louisville Metro Police Department for 18 years, including several years as a homicide detective (including 2020 when Breonna Taylor was killed by a police officer after her boyfriend shot a cop who was serving a warrant in the femoral artery). What non LEO families do not understand is that the narrative around police shootings by the media is always one sided and always makes the officer the villain (except in the case of Michael Byrd, who killed Ashli Babbitt). Some of the past narratives have never been corrected, and friends of mine still believe the "hands up don't shoot" narrative about Michael Brown (later determined to be a justified shoot by the cop). They still believe Breonna Taylor was an innocent EMT, not involved with drug dealers and some even believe the cops served the warrant on the wrong house and that they did NOT knock (they knocked repeatedly, which was their mistake in hindsight). Renee Good was a victim of indoctrination by Democrats, including their media, and she was used as a pawn by a highly funded group of radicals who want to see the American experiment fail, i.e. Marxists. I pray that my husband never gives a person the benefit of the doubt if he finds himself in a situation where a person is apparently prepared to use a 4 ton vehicle as a weapon. While he says he would have used different "tactics" and likely would not have been in this position, the reality is that she was told to get out of the car, and she did not comply. She made several decisions that day that unfortunately led to her death. Lastly, Minnesota is corrupt. If you have not watched the documentary about George Floyd, produced by Liz Collin and others, I highly recommend it. Liz basically lost her job as an anchor at a local news station in Minneapolis, because she was married to a cop and was not willing to lie about what happened. https://www.thefallofminneapolis.com
Appreciate the perspective (and props to your hubby).
Thank God Elon Musk bought Twitter. We were censored in 2020 for trying to tell the truth about Breonna. John Mattingly wrote a book about the whole debacle. Several officers lives (and their families) were ruined, and many of them had to move, due to death threats from Breonna's family. I am not saying there aren't corrupt cops, but most of them are trying to do what is right and trying to survive to come home to their families. Once they retire, many of them die young, due to years of poor sleep and living in fight or flight. Husband told me last week that the average age of death of cops is 59.
Dr. Molly Rutherford, on top of that how many law enforcement officers are dying relatively young (age 59 is relatively young to me as a 71 year old) because they were forced to get the mRNA Covid shots in order to keep their jobs?
True. I'm sure the shots contribute. LMPD did not mandate, but merely coerced with "bonus" money. Husband got a medical exemption due to history of Gillian Barre (he was paralyzed at age 11), so he still got the bonus. Hard to believe people were bribed to get an experimental shot. Unethical.
That’s heart wrenching. I had no idea that the average age was 59 for cops dying. Even given that being killed young on the job skews the number somewhat, this is so sad. 💔😥
I agree with you 1000%. Floyd was a criminal and drug addict who served nothing but himself and his immoral addictions . Renee Good is Renee Bad as she interferred where she did not belong and set out that day with a premeditated and intentional agenda to hurt ICE any way she could. A premeditated and intentional decision to be where she was not supposed to be. It was her fault no matter how or why or who influenced her. She entered at her own risk. Please tell your husband I thank him for being a first responder and protector of the people. Those people that hate cops, call the social worker when you are raped, home invaded, robbed, beat up. Let us know how that works out for you.
Thank you for commenting. I hope your husband knows that regular, God fearing, neighbor loving normies are grateful for his service and support Ross because: common sense. I have to wonder about the Giant Void in a life that causes a human being to sop up the extreme lies without any curiosity about the other side of the story...
You are totally correct! My grandson is a LEO. They are constantly in jeopardy … not just from the criminals they pursue, but from crazies who think they have the right to interfere. Not to speak of the cold blooded assassinations of LEOs by such cowards.
Thank you. One of the officers killed in Norfolk was assassinated in broad daylight. He worked my husband's beat, different shift.
"Renee Good was a victim of indoctrination by Democrats, including their media, and she was used as a pawn by a highly funded group of radicals who want to see the American experiment fail, i.e. Marxists."
Times hundreds of cities.
Thanks for the insight and appreciate you as a spouse as well as your Hubs. That is not an easy position for either of you...waiting waiting each day and praying he makes it home safely.
I am a Bering Sea wife, so I know all about sending your other half out to make the living and praying you see them again at the end of their work day or work months. ♥
I can't imagine having people who would want to expire him, on top of that. You are made of steel, woman.
If Renee Good was so obtuse to fall for being a victim, that is on her.
Doc Molly, please thank your husband for his service to the public. He probably doesn't hear it enough. I know my stepson and grandson do not, as sheriff's deputies.
As for anyone defending Good or any other "protester" - Protesting something should have you well out of the firing line and not between parties, anyone that asks you to get between does not care about you and is not interested in the fallout to you. You can tote signs, chant, film, march, sound off, ask questions, etc; all perfectly legal under the first amendment. BUT- Once you step in between, you are no longer a protester, but have announced you have become a combatant. That is not protesting and is not covered by free speech. Be prepared for the consequences of your actions, whatever that may end up being.
Protest away, I (and most Americans) do not care. We can agree or disagree peacefully on most subjects. Mess with our law enforcement who are just trying to do the damn job to the best of their abilities, and to come home SAFE to their families.... well, you will not like having me and those like me on your juries afterwards. Because most of these orgs are so busy trying to demonize them forget that these law enforcement are people who are part of the community, they have families and people who care about them. We will not allow you to denigrate them or harm them without a fight.
Dr. Molly, thank you for your comments. I 100% agree with you. My son is a law enforcement officer and I also pray that he "never gives a person the benefit of the doubt if he finds himself in a situation..." such as this....
It is a tragedy and from all sides it is full of remorse. This woman put herself in this situation, made defiant decision, one after another, that unfortunately, tragically, led to her death. But to say that she shares no responsibility in her own death is blind ignorance.
as the proud mom of a local officer here in NW Indiana (SWAT trained and also the president of his local FOP, with hopes of moving up in the state FOP organization, which is all volunteer, btw) Thank You Molly, for your perspective and your detailed comment!
people always need to be reminded that our loved ones put themselves in harm's way, every day, because they choose a life of service to their community. they don't ask someone's background or politics before racing onto a dangerous scene. they are trained to DE escalate when civilians like this 'Good' woman have chosen TO escalate, deliberately. to the ones holding her up as some sort of martyr: do you people think that the illegals you are supposedly 'defending' would do the same for you?? the answer would be a resounding: HELL NO! would your local police officer? you better believe THEY would! 'nuff said.
God bless you for your honesty. God bless your husband and all law enforcement officers who have not given up on their profession.
I know several police officers and it is often a very thankless job, especially today. It’s easy to armchair what you might do but you don’t and can’t know what you will do when seconds count and your life is in danger.
My heart breaks for the officer who killed Ms. Good because I understand in the aftermath of killing someone, no matter how justified, weighs heavily on one’s soul. My heart also breaks for Ms. Good because she let herself get carried away and lead astray by a movement who cares not whether she lived or died. Unfortunately, this situation is likely to be repeated as long as the lunatics keep pushing out their propaganda.
As the wife of a now-retired Federal Agent, thank you for all of this!!!! While I do not watch the media, I do not offer any opinions, because sadly we will never get the facts. Citizens, responsible citizens, always should weigh facts, then realize the truth is somewhere in the middle, and a lot of that we will never know. Facts do NOT equal truth. But making claims on minimal information, coming from the media, is just ignorant. So I will continue to not have an opinion, but continue to research and hold all in offices accountable for their actions. Then utilize my privilege and right to vote them in or out. And continue to study the Constitution and really know what I am responsible for, which is not in the court of public opinion.
Who ever dreamed that being in law enforcement in America would be like going to war in Afghanistan or Iraq? Prayers for your husband and all the others.
Some people support illegal immigration, the majority oppose it. The law is on the side of those who oppose it.
If those who support it resort to violence and/or obstruction, they become criminals. Arrest them. Renee Good agitated and escalated to physical violence. Her choice.
100%
I can't imagine a positive outcome going out and messing with the cops like that. It's hard to understand someone who gets to that point of behaving so recklessly.
Perhaps consequences to date haven't been sufficient?
I think there's a dual mindset embodied by some on the Left, or at least some of the protesters on the Left:
1. The cops are the minions of the fascist state, here to do the bidding of the dictator and terrorize the populace.
2. The cops are here to protect and serve, and as a white person, they're not going to hurt me.
In most of the protests I've seen (and this might be due to the demographics here), it's mostly older, mostly white people - and I would say it's mostly women - holding signs and chanting slogans. They're aging hippies who were antiwar activists in their teens and 20s, women who read Gloria Steinem in the 70s and voted strictly Democrat all their lives, even as the Dems started supporting foreign wars in the 90s. They grew older and didn't seem to notice when their party started acting like the Republicans with whom they historically disagreed. They excused the deeds of the Clintons, were vehemently opposed to GW Bush (but ended up LOVING Dick Cheney's daughter - never figured that one out), and voted in Obama as an antidote to the Bush years, and to "finally" have a Black man elevated to the highest office in the land.
Obama didn't work out as they'd hoped, and started breaking promises immediately (like closing the Gitmo and not pursuing the Bush admin as war criminals). Obama turned out to be (big) business as usual, with a dash of race-baiting and socialism on the side. They don't like to be reminded of the 7 wars started by Obama, because these Vietnam-era libs experience cognitive dissonance when confronted by inconvenient truths like that.
Trump incensed them so much that they thought they voted in the Autopen, and raced down the road to the extreme Left so far and so fast that they're experiencing a sort of whiplash when the course-correcting U-turn was pulled last year. I think their confusion about authority is a manifestation of the G-forces they're experiencing from the rapid changes in a political landscape they never anticipated.
This woman Good is obviously not of that older generation, but had become caught up in the brainwashing and rhetoric of a party that has lost all sense of any kind of moral center.
Thank you for your comment. I agree. We must live in similar demographic places. It is the white liberal (democrat) women who for the most part, who are the most insufferable. I have a fellow Conservative buddy who is black. He has been verbally attacked by some of these people, cursing and shouting out all types of slurs. My favorite is “Racist!” He never backs down. It is astonishing that these self-important lunatics feel justified in being so disgusting. It is the intense anger that seems to drive their hatred.
My mother (79) spits vitriol on Facebook like a machine gun. You can feel the malevolence. She proudly calls herself a militant feminist. Every accomplishment of mine (as a solo proprietor) is heralded as a proud blow against the patriarchy but doesn’t appear to be connected to my own efforts.
Every one of my sister’s favorite movies is one she refers to as a feminist triumph. (I am sorry but Melissa McCartney playing against the fat trope isn’t about feminism - it’s just inverted stereotypes.)
Both of them are screaming into the void. Neither will tolerate the merest hint of an ideological challenge. They’ve outsourced their personalities and critical thinking to demonstrate their in-group cred. But really they’re just fighting the inevitable irrelevance of aging. They let their ideas become their identity (thank you @elgatomalo). Irrelevance is existential threat to them because there is no longer any there, there to give them context.
Good points. I know women like that. Thankfully, my mother, God rest her soul, was sensible until she died at age 93. I hated that she had to be stressed by living her last years in a retirement home, surrounded by obnoxious democrats. They were condescending and loud about their hatred of Trump. It seems that it has become okay to air upset and grievance to the point of delusional and sometimes dangerous levels. It is no wonder that Somali immigrants figured out that it would be easy to defraud Americans, given they basically had an open door to do so. People like “prancing about Walz” and the American hating Ilhan Omar and the weeping Portland Police Chief should be uncommon and complete embarassments. And certainly should have never been in those respective positions in the first place. There is plenty of blame to go around. But the source of the decline in American values and standard of living is undeniably on the Left.
I hope to avoid a care home for obvious reasons, but now I will add not being surrounded by left lunatics to the list!
I'd add that one of the biggest ironies is these people proclaiming a fascist state, yet not being arrested for acts of violence and civil unrest directed at the state, proving that perhaps the state is not fascist after all.
But there we go using logic to counter emotional hysteria like our poster below.
Dear Lord! Other than anti-war activist, you have me to a “T” … until 1991 when I met my husband …. A conservative man who led me to the truth. Even without him, I wouldn’t have voted for that sniveling con Obama.
Hey, I have to shamefully admit a lot of that was ME too... Just out of high school, I hated Reagan, mostly because he seemed to be playing a very dangerous game with the Russians and toying with the idea of "survivable" nuclear war. I also detested the "Moral Majority" with all their TV preachers and grandstanding. Didn't like Bush, either - the wall fell and somehow we were cheated out of our "peace dividend" when the scare machine was switched to Muslim Terrorists.
I registered Democrat when W was elected - I hated everything about that man, and voted for Obama the first time, because at least he appeared to speak intelligently. But then I began leaning heavily towards Libertarian when Obama failed to represent my values so spectacularly. He took 9/11 off the table, failed to close the Gitmo, and drone-bombed civilians, among his other failures. I was hoodwinked. But a little wiser.
In 2016 I was beyond caring - I hated Hillary but Trump seemed like a blowhard whose voice would drive me up the wall at every speech. I was glad she was defeated, and kind of warmed to Trump, particularly when I saw how viciously the Dems were going after him. My life was better under Trump, at least until Covid - that's when everything went off the rails.
It was only after Trump defeated KamelToes that I began to feel like I could start considering my future again - for four years I was paralyzed, wondering when I was going to end up in some gulag for defying the US genetic experimentation program.
Now I'm seeing an improving economy, some hope for the future, and leadership that represents some of my interests.
Amen!!!👍
You definitely pointed out the convenience of shying away from the truth when it is staring them right in the face. But you forgot the Alzheimer's or Dementia that has set in on the boomers. Luckily, I didn't jump on any of those bandwagons except for the lack of equal treatment between men and women regardless of race. The medical system and medical insurance being the biggest culprit in inequality.
The ones I've seen aren't suffering from dementia or alzheimer's.. It's some other sickness that's taken over their brains - it's related to OCD... I can't remember the letters... ; )
Could be that a part of it is LNPs and mRNA getting past the brain blood barrier.
Well they missed the part that ole Glo was a CIA op…
ole Glo??
Absolutely. She should have been immediately arrested, and if she didn't comply, just mace her and cuff her.
That they let "protestors" get away with the things they do is contributing heavily to the proliferation and continued antics of these people.
It's a balancing act, but letting people shoot explosives, hurl rocks at moving cars and completely break down social order is not helping supressing this behavior.
yes, her choice and at her own risk.
no. it was the choice of the person holding the gun. no gun, no murder, no problem. blocking my 'legally authorized operation' is now justified homicide?
The "person holding the gun" did not make the choice to obstruct law enforcement by blocking the roadway with a vehicle. Renee Good did.
She chose to be there, she chose to obstruct, she chose to agitate, she chose to escalate, she chose to press the accelerator. She chose to support illegal immigration. She chose to oppose law enforcement.
o my goodness. whatever we do, we must never obstruct law enforcement. no matter how corrupt or unconstitutional. makes me wonder just what would ever cause you, yes you personally, to obstruct law enforcement.
Are you saying that immigration law enforcement is corrupt and unconstitutional? Please elaborate.
still waiting for that reply? don't think you're gonna see it but you tried getting an answer about immigration enforcement and she did not comply. :D
Seems obvious. Good believed that operation was unjust, unlawful or immoral in some way, hence the choices she made. I think the point is that regardless of all those choices, none of them add up to deserving getting shot in the face point blank. The entire episode shows how far gone law enforcement is by now, that they weren’t able to deescalate that situation and one of them killed a woman because he got nudged by her fender.
Peaceful protests are legal. Obstructing an ICE operation with your vehicle is NOT. Good should have complied to the multiple “get out of the car” instruction……and gotten out of the car! Instead, she gunned it. And that is why she was shot.
I never knew that getting nudged by a fender wasn't considered attempted assault with a deadly weapon, huh. Have you tried nudging an LEO with your fender? Let me know how that works out. SMH
I asked nancylee if she was saying that immigration law enforcement is corrupt and unconstitutional. You are telling me what Renee Good thought.
If it's so obvious, please explain how immigration law enforcement is corrupt and unconstitutional.
Seriously?
For pretty much for the entire history of human existence, if you actively confront law enforcement performing its mandated duty, you risk personal injury, detainment or worse.
And lol, you give yourself away. But props for not saying the word fascism.
Jeez, Nancy, it's as if you didn't even read Jenna's post.
I don't think the officer was "making choices" in that moment. Lots of things happened in a short amount of time. Both people involved brought their baggage to the scene. One thought an act of civil disobedience that didn't even require her stepping out of her car would be heroic. The other harbored painful memories of a previous experience of a criminal using a car as a weapon against him. He reacted by instinct against a perceived threat.
She drove her car right at him. No car no death.
Oh obviously in your world it was the ”gun” and the person who was at the other end of the “gun” that is responsible here. Not Miz Good, who in and of itself, made some bad decisions for herself that day, and who apparently used her vehicle as a battering ram to try and mow down some people on said day. And what’s with the “wife” filming it all? A made for Tik Tok “video of the week” perhaps? To post later? To support “the cause”?
Frontera Lupita, my guess is the lesbian partner(dressed like a middle school 14 year old boy) was 1) filming for Tiktok views ($) and perhaps in order to be paid by the Ice Watch organizers who recruited the two of them.
Sounds totally legit. Now what if they were both in fact “crisis actors” in this whole thing and Miz Renee Nicole Gold isn’t even dead? Just spirited away to wait for her next “assignment”? Yet another PsyOp designed to rile up people on both the ‘left’ and the ‘right’ in justification for the future implementation of “marshall law”.
happened on 33rd street smile
I am not ready to go there despite reading this and other comments such similar to yours.
https://open.substack.com/pub/peggyhall/p/ice-shooting-in-minneapolis-weird?r=7mv4t&utm_medium=ios&shareImageVariant=overlay
As to your choosing. Just keep in mind that many of the ‘events’ that have happened here in the USA for the last 25 plus years, (and beyond) the ‘official narrative’ has nothing to do with what really happened, how it all “came down” and who was behind them.
🤔🧐🕵🏼♀️
Turns out that the Officer suffered internal bleeding from being hit by the vehicle. So, there goes the false narrative that he wasn’t hit. Now to add further insult to that injury, the attorney for the disgusting, pathetic, drug addict criminal, woman abuser Floyd, who died of whatever illegal drug he was on, is now going to represent another reprehensible “accomplice” to the actions of her partner that lead to her being killed. I just cannot despise the media and the America-hating Left enough. They are diabolical.
Good did not have a “wife.” She and her girlfriend were not “ married.” Enough with the term “wife.”
Not that it actually matters, but she WAS Married to Becca Good. Multiple sources confirm. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2026/01/09/renee-nicole-good-wife-becca-ice-shooting/88107100007/
I think Barbara was expressing her opinion on gay marriage, rather than the de jure status of Renee and Becca.
Now that was a fantasy sainthood write-up! I suspect we’ll see a statue of Renee erected soon. The author of this article whitewashes their actions vs their self-created values. This perfect Christian couple’s actions brought about a horrible result for all involved. I am very sorry for her death and I pray for her soul and for her children.
I had hoped Renee’s and her late husband’s son had family to raise him in reality- no grandparents, aunts & uncles? I do hope the other two children are included in this money fund. I did read elsewhere ( can’t remember source) that these two women never finalized their “marriage.” I don’t apologize for believing in God’s creation and plan for marriage.
That's what I thought.
It matters. The wife will get the gofundme millions.
She should be arrested and charged.
Yes, she should be arrested and charged with "depraved indifference to human life." By her own recorded admission, she instigated an action that resulted in a death.
The millions from the GoFund me should be put into a trust for the 3 children
There should not even be a Go Fund Me.
Yes. She was aiding and abetting a federal crime.
Amen
oh, interesting, i haven't heard that. I've only seen her referred to as her wife.
.... and like "Maryland Man"...... "Poet, Mom".......
she was married to 2 men having her children with them. then it appears she became gay.
Yes, and which is a bit odd to say the least. Perhaps it was the vaccines.
Thank you
We opened a door that we shouldn’t have when gay marriage was declared constitutional.
Not relevant to this discussion
I think it is relevant. Something has agitated the lesbian community into taking action against conservatives in general and Trump in particular. It strikes me it is an offshoot of the Great Feminization of American culture. Is it because they despise men , unlike Tim Walz(who tend to be sometimes less than manly?) who they see as testosterone driven, like Trump who after all is a man’s man? Whatever it is, lesbians have come a long way since the days of “Boston marriages.” Whatever it is, Becca and Renee’s relationship is relevant somehow or no one would have said anything about it in the news accounts.
They never do as it is cheer cheer cheer lgbtq. What they do in the privacy of their homes is their business but I am sick and tired of hearing about it ad nauseum all the time.
Lori, I am old enough to remember when homosexuals said “we just want tolerance.” That was the beginning of the slippery slope where we now have public perversion parades with small children attending, active grooming of children by predatory homosexual pedophiles, and gender-benders actually believing they can be the opposite sex.
Pretty sure it is. Lesbians seem to be well represented among Looney Liberals who think they are ordained to support and defend criminals, especially criminal illegal aliens. And, to thwart their legal arrest and prosecution.
Rethink. Remove gender, color, origin.
Cop says get out, you get out.
You ignore and accelerate, you die.
None of the rest is pertinent to the topic at hand.
If you allow yourself to be derailed by those descriptors, you fall into their emotion vortex.
'Just the facts, ma'am!'
It is relevant.
I think using the term "murder" in the topic for the poll was the wrong choice, it may not have legally been a "murder". Other than that I think you are spot on.
The people who sponsor these protest are hoping that one of their pawns are killed. Before volunteering to be one of their protesters, people should really think if this virtue signalling is worth the risk that you are taking. There are much more constructive things that you could do.
El gato malo said they specifically use women to push back at the officers. Better optics.
I am saddened by this whole tragic mess. That said, I can't help but think of the old "Play stupid games--win stupid prizes.
I mean hey, I'm a member of the the white, hetero-normative, patriarchal oppresssive class, and I would have stopped for those guys without question.
Yah, because if you hadn't, they'd have been a lot less accommodating for you.
That's behavior so reckless as to be completely unimaginable.
(with kids at home, no less).
Thank you! I would have too... and what's more... Now I know how to describe myself... :)
Believe it or not I had to think a minute about that. I think I got it more or less right, according to "they."
me too.
I saw a video yesterday by a guy who's been protesting his whole life. And he talked about how, when an officer says hands behind your back, or WHATEVER they tell you, you COMPLY. You fight back IN COURT, you don't fight with the officers.
I've been feeling VERY odd watching this unfold, because almost everyone I know is beside themselves, holding up hear death as proof of our fascist government, etc etc - I even saw a post by someone locally talking about how we needed to understand how dire the situation is when ICE is shooting peaceful law abiding white women, who normally get a pass from the police. And I'm like...um...law abiding? She was blocking an operation. And they told her repeatedly to get out of her car. She did not stop. Why are people not able to see this?
I've also seen numerous commenters saying she didn't actually hit him, his bodycam footage is jostled because he's pulling out his gun, it's not because he was clipped. That he threw himself on the hood to kill her deliberately.
Is that possible? I guess so. I'm not sure that's the most likely answer. Though anything's possible.
Regardless of whether or not he was actually clipped, SHE WAS NOT COMPLYING.
I obviously do not think that means she deserved to get shot in the head. But she was playing a dangerous game. She won the worst prize.
Her wife, yelling "drive, baby, drive" before Renee took off, should be charged with something.
Officers are trained to shoot if someone is threatening their life, because if they don’t, that person will likely kill the officer or kill someone else. It’s just part of the training and it’s for a reason. I know it’s tragic and difficult to understand, but I have many friends or police officers, and have been put in that situation.
Correct. One of my friends (a black cop) shot a man threatening him with a knife on duty a few years ago. He was put on administrative leave for a LONG time while the incident was investigated and was eventually cleared of any wrongdoing. Y'all never heard about that incident, right? I wonder why.
Damn right and I would have done the same thing especially when someone was there in the first place breaking the law.
I saw the video on X of that guy who explained exactly the difference between legal and illegal protests. These protests are designed to be illegal, cross a line, and risk death for those protesting. In my opinion the organizers are especially reaching out to women since women are more sympathetic figures than men. Renee Good was the perfect narrative builder: female, mom, and poet. The cynicism of these people is vile.
She was no idol to represent anyone. But you are right, a narrative builder. SSDD with the libtards.
There is footage that shows his feet being lifted off the ground…
I saw that video too, it was powerful. The one of the lifelong activist, I mean.
yeah - I feel like THAT should be on the news.
Remember what happened in Missouri, "Hands up, don't shoot."?
I was still on the other side then. I do remember it. From the other side when I was still a liberal progressive. I haven't looked into it again, would be very interesting to see it with my current eyes....
What changed your mind to leave that kind of thinking?
My kids were kicked out of school for being unvaccinated when NYC repealed our right to an exemption. It took that to realize that despite my being a good little liberal progressive my whole life, Democrats didn't want me to have any medical say over my body or my children's bodies (unless of course I were to want an abortion). I was overwhelmed by the hypocrisy of it all and started questioning everything. And then Covid - seeing how absolutely psychotic the Dems/liberals were during that whole time put me over the edge.
They are quite a group, that's for sure. Glad you abandoned ship.
There is something mentally off when a man protests his whole life. Does he have nothing better to do like work or volunteer at a homeless shelter or work with a local charity? Sounds like the guy has no peace in his life and always looking to fight something.
And Renee had no reason to be there. She gets the igorant prize of the year posthumously.
I mean, maybe he does that also? Who knows. But one thing we know is that he DOES know how to protest without getting himself into dangerous situations.
I doubt he does anything else worthwhile. Wants his 15 minutes of fame saying Look at Me, Look at Me protesting. Self absorbed, hubristic and empty.
I checked other because your poll question read “murder” which tosses out all the options not fitting the legal definition . Her death was unfortunate but was a result of her actions.
I did not participate in the poll. Renee Good's unfortunate death should never be characterized as a "murder"
There’s something wrong with any situation where a mom gets children removed from her custody. There’s something wrong when a woman with children has so little regard for them that she goes head to head with law enforcement to prove a point that can’t be justified. Video of her partner shows her to be insulting, dismissive and out for a fight. This woman behaved stupidly with no regard for those who depended on her. It’s a shame she had to die for her stupidity but I feel much more for her children.
Not to mention her dog in the back seat.
I have no doubt she had already messed up her kids mentally as she did not even know herself and conducted herself like a loon.
What I want to know is why no one is talking about how the government of MN and Minneapolis are also culpable in this situation. States that declare themselves sanctuary states are not only violating the supremacy clause of the constitution, they’re putting federal officers in position to be hurt, their public in positions to be hurt, in situations like this. It’s easy for protests to turn into interference, and the LOCAL COPS should be there to make sure that protests remain lawful so the federal agents can do their lawful duties.
It all started with the Biden administration opening the borders and letting these people in. Had they not done that, ICE wouldn't need to be going around trying to round up all the criminals, then people wouldn't be protesting ICE. It all leads back to Biden.
Boom!
How convenient for Tim Walz. Instead of being tarred and feathered and driven out of his elected office, he's elevated to the level of Pope in canonizing a saint. The level of hypocrisy rises in equal measure to the level of fraud.
I’m taking bets that he resigns his office by the end of this month.
I hope so. He is an effeminate derelict who when he opens his mouth, shit falls out, every time, every day.
you left out quartered.
I have not heard this mentioned anywhere, but at the moment when Good accelerated, an officer had his arm in car.
The officer who fired was dragged a few months earlier.
I suspect the officer feared more for the safety of the office in the car than for his own.
Good point! He may not have been thinking just about himself, but selflessly about his fellow officers. She obviously was escalating the danger and refusing to follow orders.
Very good point!
There is no "tragedy" here... the word "tragedy" is used to evoke feelings... sentiments... There is only a simple consequence of someone's actions... and that's all there is. Life has consequences based on one's actions... and life doesn't care how anyone feels about its consequences... life doesn't care if anyone likes or dislikes its consequences. When a law enforcement officer tells you to "Get out of the phucking car!"... no matter if that law enforcement officer is municipal, state, or federal... You had better "Get out of the phucking car!"... Period! No discussion, no argument... and certainly no defiant alternative actions... again PERIOD! A woman is dead because she thought that her feelings were more important, more legitimate, and more sanctified than a lawful order by an armed officer of the law, who thought her subsequent actions constituted a threat to his life... If there is any "tragedy" here, it's otherwise known by its legitimate name... "stupidity"... Play stupid games... win stupid prizes.
Quite frankly, I'm tired of the distraction... and that is exactly what this entire conflaguration is... nothing more... nothing less... than an act of arson set to serve as a distraction! A distraction from the tower of fraud built in Minnesota by Tampon Tim, his Somali soulmate, Ilhan Omar, and who knows who else... Where else and by whom this fraud has been built, we don't yet know... But when we get past the bullshit, we're certain to find out... and that is what the perps are afraid of.
I have to object to the title of today's poll: "The murder of Renee Good was..." She was _killed,_ not _murdered._ (Perhaps it's just a callback to the article's clickbait/ironic title, but the subtitle explicitly points out it's the internet's version and not the author's opinion)
I have liberal fatigue by 1,000,000,000. And I agree with Barbara. This is too extreme and writing squishy like you did just has to stop. The facts are the facts. She was wrong. He protected himself according to state and federal law. She and the liberal activist caused this to occur. She was the sacrificial lamb that the left was looking for. Now the Insurrection Act will be activated and these creatures will be eliminated soon. Not in killed eliminated. But stopped.
The fault lies completely at the feet of leadership who fanned the flames and encouraged citizens to “resist ICE” at all costs. It lies at the feet of the organizations that train “protesters” to engage AND escalate (including using vehicles to box agents in) in the hope that they will then “give up.” Another tactic used in training is to use “sympathetic characters,” women and the elderly, so as things escalate, the public sympathy will lay with the protesters, not law enforcement. Renee Good was a Pawn. She played her part, leadership got their wish, and they continue to fan the flames, and the public continues to buy into it. Both sides. Instead of calling out Leadership and the organizers, we dig in and promote and protect the narrative of our choosing (I, too, am guilty of this). It’s time to go after the REAL perps. Waltz, the Mayor, every Legislator making inflammatory remarks, all of the organizations behind this madness. This has to end. Yes, good was nuts. But she was also a mom. And a poet (although a really bad and angry one). And now she’s dead. Her children lost a mother. The ICE officer will have to live with this FOREVER. All because we are pawn in their stupid little game.
I did reference the leaders, liberal activists. And the President and Sec Noem are mentioning the funders and leaders. However in this time we have a weak and ineffective DOJ Blondi is bought and paid for as it seems. If this was Merrick Garland in the AG spot the whole right would be in jail for the next 100 years without trial. We, the conservatives, are weak. And Blondi's history suggested she would act just like this.
Answered before my first cup of coffee lol…good to see we agree ;).
And pay them to protest.
That's actually a great point.
SHE WAS WRONG. She shouldn't have been interfering with LEO's in performance of their duties.
Weird the system of actions/expected consequences we've developed in this country.
She was no lamb, they are innocent.
Yes you are correct. Sorry for the misrepresentation lol.
The polarization of society is very disturbing. Life is not "black and white". Life is full of decisions and mistakes are a part of life. Yet, we seem to be in a mode where large parts of society take everything to extremes.
We should be able to protest safely, but that also requires us to be careful in our protesting. Confrontation elevates conflict into greater risk of mistakes with more serious consequences.
John, the only ones violently protesting are those on the left. Thousands of Tea Party rallies across America and never any behavior like this (unless leftist agitators crashed them). And January 6th is not included as that “insurrection” was infiltrated by FBI informants and antifa agitators (dressed up as MAGA Trump supporters) hired to create chaos and violence.
I did not see anything like this when Charlie Kirk was actually murdered. I saw people gathering in candlelight ceremonies, praying and singing hymns like "Amazing Grace." No one that I witnessed, was violent. I saw 300 people gather in solemn mourning here in Vermont of all places.
BOOM!
That matches my impression. But again, much of the "information" we get is from the media and as Jenna points out, both sides are painting extremes.
John, the extremes do not matter to me if the facts are TRUE. In this case my bet is on the left lying 99.9%. Whether the right’s claims about Good losing custody of two of the three children because the lesbian partner put cigarettes out on their arms or not is irrelevant. As are Andy Ngo’s X posts showing Good’s mother was paying a lot of her expenses. But Good’s connections to BLM and Ice Watch are relevant. This does not make Good a monster, it makes her complicit.
she is a monster if for one second she allowed her partner to burn cigs into a childs arm. if my partner did that, it would be the last he ever did anything. and it is relevant bc it shows her character is shit, her parental duties are shit and she is not of sound mind. Period.
Lori, my reference was to Jenna’s questioning whether this information being shared by those of us on the conservative side was truthful or helpful to the actual crime Good committed against the ICE officer. I agree with you that if it is true she is an unfit mother who deserved to lose custody of the children involved in that abuse.
The “training” these “activists” receive is disturbing. They are trained to escalate, and to use sympathetic characters (women, the elderly) in an effort to thwart LEO action. If there IS ACTION, as there was in this case, public opinion will be on their side. It works every time. Very different from conservative protests. No paid actors. No training. No agenda other than getting the message out. And a deep respect for law enforcement.
I've heard these protesters have now started using babies for props. If that's true, they need to be arrested for child endangerment.