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Roberta Stack's avatar

This makes my blood boil. Here in Maskachusetts we have a state senator who is forever introducing bills to eliminate the religious exemption. Fortunately none of her bills have passed due to the diligence of citizens rallying against her. I’m 72, never ever vaccinated, and it’s a hill I’d die on. My brother in law, a neonatal MD, called when the clot shot came out, asking if I was going to get the shot. I said no way. He said that’s all he needed to know, hung up and that was it. All I know is that it is a right to be able to decide what goes into my body, my body, my choice. It seems so simple to me.

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TINYDANCER's avatar

The only time you’re allowed to have bodily autonomy according to these evil people is, if you want an abortion, then you can scream my body my choice.

I’m of the opinion that everyone if they can should homeschool and take their kids out of our horrendously run schools that care nothing about getting an actual education.

In addition, I would not listen to anything the AAP had to say about vaccines or otherwise because they’re just mouthpieces for the pharmaceutical industry.

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

And there it is- empty out the schools. Start co-ops with neighbors, use the Charlotte Mason method, organize local churches into providing education or at least the space. One thing I know is that no one needs to have a stupid degree in education to know how to teach. Call on people in your community or your neighborhood who know how to do stuff. Welcome them in so they can share what they know with children: bee keeping, carpentry, gardening, and literature lovers, math lovers. Every community has people experienced in something who would love to volunteer.

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Donna in MO's avatar

My sister has an engineering degree and an MBA, but when her kids came along she opted to stay home with them. She read about the serious shortage of math teachers when her youngest was headed to junior high. She loved math (and got all the math brain cells, and I didn't get any) and decided to look into becoming a math teacher. In Georgia (at the time) they required almost 2 years worth of college courses in teaching methods and other courses before she could be licensed to teach. She enrolled and started taking some of the classes, but her husband got downsized and ultimately took a job in CA and when they moved she dropped the idea. She would have been a great teacher and wanted to help kids and yet the bureaucracy stifled the idea.

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

If I had her skills I’d be looking for a co-op school or a bunch of parents who are home schooling. Many of them say math is not their primary skill.

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Donna in MO's avatar

Well when they moved to CA she ended up getting a job at one of her kids' private schools (son went to an all boys school and daughter went to an all girls school) to help defray the pricey tuition. But she worked in the fundraising office and found she was good at it & liked it. She is now a fundraising director for a small private college with her kids grown & gone.

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

Used to be, you didn't have to be a math whiz to teach it! Just use the book and answer questions. Easier than ever with the internet. Heck, you could have AI create a comprehensive course for kids to follow.

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Donna O's avatar

There is a high school that uses Ai. Kids work it for 2-3 hours/day then participate in field trips to ballet, plays, engineering projects, etc. The school tested in the top 10% the first year and the kids love going to school!

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

I think parents are afraid of the more advanced maths. But yeah, I love the idea of using AI to create a math course! Ingenious idea, Mary! When I think of the things people could do to teach their kids, it would make schools blush. For example, they blew up the literary canon decades ago. But John Taylor Gatto successfully taught “Moby Dick” to junior high kids and didn’t even use an expurgated version.

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Copernicus's avatar

Unfortunately They are coming for homeschoolers too. The forces arrayed against parental autonomy and authority are growing louder and the last few years have been introducing cookie cutter legislation into statehouses - yes, even by RINOs in red states - that would curtail the freedom of homeschoolers. Maybe not going all the way re jabs right now, but one is naive who doesn't think that's a part of their eventual agenda.

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

People are going to have to get organized and fight back.

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Copernicus's avatar

Most states have homeschool orgs that watch these matters.

However, even a lot of homeschoolers are unaware of the threats. Resting on laurels.

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

The volunteers could be retired folks looking for something to do. There are no shortage of them. I would love to have a job like that once I hit 67 or so.

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Copernicus's avatar

Unfortunately They are coming for homeschoolers too. The forces arrayed against parental autonomy and authority are growing louder and the last few years have been introducing cookie cutter legislation into statehouses - yes, even by RINOs in red states - that would curtail the freedom of homeschoolers. Maybe not going all the way re jabs right now, but one is naive who doesn't think that's a part of their eventual agenda.

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Donna in MO's avatar

Yes, homeschoolers in my state are generally opposed to school choice legislation as funding for homeschools (co-ops) invites gov intervention, one of the big reason they started homeschooling in the first place.

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Debi Lutman's avatar

There is a scripture about “yeast” and that’s exactly the way they chip away our freedoms, every time. Or that expanding insulation, just crowd every freedom out. Control control control, the useless eaters.

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Momcat's avatar

There are two: 1 Corinthians 5:6-8 (Leaven -or yeast- is a metaphor of sin & wickedness)

Your boasting is not good. Do you not know that a little leaven leavens the whole lump of dough? Clean out the old leaven so that you may be a new lump, just as you are in fact unleavened. For Christ our Passover also has been sacrificed. Therefore let us celebrate the feast, not with old leaven, nor with the leaven of malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

Galatians 5:9 (false teachers-leaven-can negatively influence an entire group)

A little leaven leavens the whole lump of dough.

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Fred's avatar

🤬

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Bridget's avatar

That's what we had in NY... state legislators introducing an exemption repeal over and over and over again. Until finally their efforts coincided perfectly with measles Hysteria, and it passed. My kids, along with many others, were kicked out of school. EFF these people.

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Sheila Dempsey, PhD's avatar

My NY State Assemblyman was a proponent of that bill, and in a town hall meeting he said one of reasons he was against religious exemptions was because there’s no mention of vaccines in the bible! He had contempt for those of us asking questions about the ethical and legal issues related to mandates without exemptions.

I’ve been face to face twice with him and his son (a NY City politician) who actually laughed when I spoke of the child deaths from the Covid shots reported to the CDC’s VAERS. I asked him why he was laughing and he responded, “No one believes the CDC.” My two friends and I were shocked.

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Bridget's avatar

I'm both disgusted, and not the least bit surprised.

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AJoy's avatar
Jul 29Edited

Who is your Assemblyman ? I live in NYS and have been dealing with these loonies since 2016. The Dems are out for blood.

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Cindi's avatar

Agree, Roberta. I was against ANY exemption for the simple reason that my bodily autonomy / God given right to say “no” was all that should have been necesssary.

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4Freedom's avatar

Proud of you! I feel the same. But, is he still speaking to you? Do you get to see your grandchildren?

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Roberta Stack's avatar

He speaks to us only when necessary it seems, family things. And yes we can see our grandchildren now, but not during the Plandemic.

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4Freedom's avatar

My younger daughter

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

I'm always amazed at how nuts Maskachusetts is!!! I think there was an 80-year-old woman banned from the YMCA for not wanting a big hairy man in her dressing room messing with little girls... and a pervy small-town mayor who tweets his degeneracy and how proud he is of it.

What a world.

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4Freedom's avatar

It is this way because normal people accept it.

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Marae's avatar

It does seem so simple, I guess that’s why it’s so shocking. It’s a hill I’d die on too.

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Transcriber B's avatar

Thank you for standing for medical freedom.

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Juju's avatar

Perfect time for the entire country to race homeschooling - then see what the AAP does when they can’t control us this way

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Tim Pallies's avatar

It's a sign of how low we have fallen that we're even having this discussion. Forget for a moment the post-Nuremburg right to informed consent. Even without that, when did we give up our rights to bodily autonomy?

Why should any free man, woman, or child have to depend on religion to justify their medical choice? And I say that as one who believes we'd all be better off if more of our choices were religiously informed.

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

Yeah, I get salty when the topic of "exemptions" comes up. As a Christian, even, I am disgusted at the normalizing of people getting out of things because of their religious beliefs - it should just be because they refuse it on the ground of their inalienable rights and bodily autonomy. Beliefs should have nothing to do with it! But that's how they chip away at it.

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LynnPine's avatar

I am a school nurse in a state that currently allows a religious exemption for vaccinations. If that goes away, I will resign. I do not want to be responsible for telling parents their child cannot attend school because they are not "fully vaccinated."

Having gone through the ridiculous shananigans of contact tracing and banning unjabbed kids from school becasue they were identified as "a close contact" was bad enough. I will not comply with this governmental overreach again.

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Jenna McCarthy's avatar

💪👏

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Laura Cornwell's avatar

That’s a hard decision to make. Glad you have the strength. ❤️

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Bridget's avatar

Yep. This happened to us as a "close contact" - my kid was out for a few days because of covid, and not even a month later, someone in the class had it and the nurse called me and told me MY UNVAXED KID HAD TO STAY HOME FOR A BUNCH OF DAYS JUST IN CASE. I was livid. The nurse stammered a whole lot when I brought up new CDC reccs and how this made absolutely NO SENSE, how on EARTH could covid be caught a second time in a month, and she finally said, well, we're a private school so we can have our own restrictions. I was FURRRRRRRRIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUS. I'm sorry you were pressured into that. And glad to know that the nurse probably felt bad, at least.

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Meddling Kid's avatar

Or, alternatively, perhaps you could be more effective for good as an insider. If/when the overreach happens again, be the guy - so to speak - who gave his patients saline and signed off on them being fully vaxxed and compliant. Stupid rules are made to be disobeyed, and we need good people in positions of power to help with that.

The left preaches “Resist!”, so resist we shall!!!

Then if they do find out and fire you, you have great grounds and case law to sue the pants off of them. Cha Ching.

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Zestenesters's avatar

Hi! I am also a school nurse -previously CA, and now MT. Here in Montana, we have medical freedom: Parents can choose OR refuse without needing ridiculous “certification” of their exemptions.

I questioned the crazy California schedule before the “scamdemic” and abhorred the hideous, unsanitary mask-muzzling of children. School nurses are protectors of children! The AAP and “public health” advocates who refute natural immunity, who want to insert harmful adjuvants and other untested and dangerous ingredients into the most vulnerable are unethical and dangers to humanity.

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John's avatar

We don’t need exemptions. The government should not (actually, does not) have the power to mandate vaccines. That the courts have not resoundingly acknowledged the fundamental right to bodily autonomy is a travesty. Really, completely undermines their legitimacy. This is a no-brainer. We shouldn’t even have to argue about it.

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

🎯🎯🎯🎯

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KatWarrior's avatar

Amen 🙏

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Transcriber B's avatar

Hear, hear

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Bill Rice, Jr.'s avatar

This is the same group that said Covid was a great mortality risk to children. Pediatricians’ main job is to make children scream in terror from their wellness shots.

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Deo Gratias's avatar

I love how they leave out the part where pediatricians can make hundreds of thousands of dollars for having fully vaxxed patients. They couldn’t care less about your child’s health, only their incomes.

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Bridget's avatar

This announcement made me absolutely RAGEY. Not just because of the sheer audacity, but because of the fact that so many people are going to applaud this and agree with it. When my kids were kicked out of school in NY State, I found it especially galling comparing my kids' health to that of their unjabbed peers. Wait a sec...MY KID who almost never misses a day is gonna make the others sick? Seriously?

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Bridget's avatar

JABBED not unjabbed. That's a fun typo. My kids are unjabbed and healthier than jabbed peers. Stack won't let me edit my comment!

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Irunthis1's avatar

These evil pediatricians are just looking out for their bottom line. The more laws allowing them to vaccinate every cohort the higher their year end bonus. It’s all anyone needs to know about these people.

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Scotlyn's avatar

"Have a Deeply Held Spiritual Belief Against Vaccines? Too Bad."

Indeed... because your deeply held spiritual belief does not trump their deeply held spiritual belief in the salvific, miraculous, and holy nature of vaccines, and their importance as a sacrament of initiation for all good tech-fearing members of society.

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Bridget's avatar

100%. They are a sacrament. And they ARE a belief system. And people don't even REALIZE

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Scotlyn's avatar

I have long been waiting for people to claim their religious exemptions on the simple, self-explanatory, basis that "I am not a member of your religion."

No pleading, justification or explanation required.

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Bridget's avatar

chef's kiss

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

We should be able to say, "No thanks. I don't want it."

And that should be that.

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Scotlyn's avatar

Actually, I totally, TOTALLY agree with you on this! Did I say totally?

And, if we had not long ago entered the realm of religious fanaticism - and I am talking about the fanaticism of pro-vaxxers who are doing their best to permanently "establish" their religion - that would be that! No one would need to say more than "No". Period, end of story!

However, the religious fanaticism driving the pro-vaxxer side means it is high time to turn THAT conversation (the one about vaccines and the "problem" of religious belief) around - to show that the problematic religious belief is the one that is insisting at the top of its voice that everyone must be "saved" in accordance with the tenets of the technocratic faith.

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Frank Rowley's avatar

Perhaps the medical profession needs to understand that there is no medical exemption from God who has expressly said that he will protect widows and children.. There is a special place in hell for these people and they will be dragged there screaming we were just trying to do good... I'm sure Kennedy is working on this and receiving unbelievable push back but I sure would like to see him press release about trials of all these drugs beginning soon. They've only got a couple of years before the political wins turn and we go back to insanity.

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Vee's avatar

On vacation now with the family, but just wanted to drop by to show my support. It's absolutely unbelievable that we are sliding backwards on vaccines with all that has happened in the last five years. Not everyone wants to be like Commefornia!

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Jenna McCarthy's avatar

Safe travels and enjoy!

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AJoy's avatar

Did ya hear the latest thought? Vaccinated dental floss! Coming soon to a CVS near you! I’m sure plenty will buy it!

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Richard schoenenberger's avatar

I still can’t grasp how an unvaxed child is a threat to the fully jabbed.

I’m sure the family shut out will be exempted from the school millage tax.

Made mental note to stay from Trader Joe’s.

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Jenna McCarthy's avatar

🤣

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

Agreed. If someone is vaccinated, are they not then at least theoretically protected against someone who is not, at least in their minds? Of course we now know that vaccines often don’t prevent transmission and sometimes even cause it.

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Richard schoenenberger's avatar

Will they ever do a study on the effects of the combination of all these jabs? Numbering in the 70s I believe.

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

RFK will get it done. CHD has recently sued him about vaccine testing.

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AJoy's avatar

Steve Kirsch just wrote a great substack about this.

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Janet's avatar

Pediatricians are outright dangers to children and the society at large. Ban them. Or worse.

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Dan McCarthy's avatar

Believe me, the last thing I want is to have to pack up my family’s happy life in New Jersey and go back to our native ‘Yookay’ which is quickly sliding into oblivion at the hands of incompetent, expressionless gimp ‘Two Tier’ Keir Starmer. But as regular Jenna readers will know, the one thing that would make me do it would be being forced to submit my kids to any more of their death shots. The scamdemic opened my eyes to their grift and, once you’ve seen it, you can’t ever unsee it. Due to the religious exemption that I was able to get for my kids under State Law (saying Grace at Thanksgiving is as religious as it gets for us), those psychopaths are not even allowed to question our desire not to have our children injected with their untested filth. Let’s hope it stays that way, or we will back the way we came, to a place rapidly resembling Kabul on a particularly knifey day, but at least one with the right to decline big pharma’s dirty little potions.

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Marc Thimmel's avatar

In related news, Moderna’s Spikevax got the fda’s full approval down to 6 months of age a couple weeks ago. It’ll be on the schedule soon I’m sure.

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Carol M.'s avatar

Bobby Jr is furious, I read. An underling pushed that Spikething through while he was getting an infusion on vacay. 🤷🏻‍♀️

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Eli's avatar

And the folks who pushed it through got fired as soon as Bobby got back

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MaryAnn's avatar

And one of the former employees deliberately rammed her car into Bobby’s as she was leaving. Total class. 😒

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Bill Rice, Jr.'s avatar

The Vaccine Promotion Agencies never sleep.

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Marc Thimmel's avatar

The world’s new gods are delivered through injection now….

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AJoy's avatar

I just read you can get your vaccine through dental floss in the near future!

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llaw555's avatar

Anyone who trusts Mackary is not paying attention.

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llaw555's avatar

Before I read this article , I’m going to state this: REFUSE TO COMPLY.

If you haven’t noticed yet, there are two sets of laws in play. One is for the wealthy - which includes those we actually VOTED to place in office to support the public and the other is for the people who are in greater numbers and pay to support this nation.

What would happen if THOUSANDS of people- THOUSANDS! Just said, “NO.”

Let go of your conditioning. It will be the “mothers” of this nation who will create the change, driven by the love for their children. Really sick of this game they’re playing with our lives.

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

I wonder if most people know that no one in congress was forced to get the vaxx. Neither were any of Phyzer's folks.

Most don't know it.

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llaw555's avatar

That’s because they do photo shoots staging their vaccine injections.

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

They had to start staging them because when they did the real thing, sometimes the subject being video'ed dropped dead (like Tiffany what's-her-name).

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llaw555's avatar

A number of people hit the floor right on camera. How deep the denial runs…

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

The Tiffany case was one of the weirdest things I've ever seen. They jumped through hoops to make us believe she was still alive! I don't believe she's ever been seen alive since, despite many people trying to find her.

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llaw555's avatar

I’m not familiar with the “Tiffany” case!

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AJoy's avatar

Neither was any of the SUNY College professors, just the students!!!

🤬

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

Wow, that's heinous.

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Janene's avatar

Yes! Like Doc Malik says, learn to say NO and mean it! No to all their garbage!

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llaw555's avatar

YES, EXACTLY!!

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Laura Cornwell's avatar

You are so right! It’s the only thing that will work in the long run.

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llaw555's avatar

Yes, I think that’s becoming obvious. If a doctor threatens, tell them you want SEE the clinical trials performed by a group of scientists who are not affiliated with big pharma FIRST. Your baby - your choice.

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