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Wendy McNamee's avatar

The number of people that STILL believe vaccines are the gateway to heaven absolutely astounds me. I was a firm vaccine advocate until covid. Now I apologize to anyone I meet that has a child that suffered at the hands of a vaccine. Because I was smug and arrogant about it. But covid opened my eyes and I couldn't be more grateful for the awakening.

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Reggie VanderVeen's avatar

I have a granddaughter whose parents have made it clear to her grandfather: vaccination and even any discussion about vaccinology is strictly verbotten. What's a grandparent to do when the level of gaslighting cripples the brains of otherwise intelligent humans? Prayer is what we have. I hope and pray it's enough for that sweet and adorable one year old who just took her first steps last week. My heart aches.

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Leslie M's avatar

My otherwise very bright adult children refuse to discuss vaccines with me, especially the Covid jab. Even though they have friends who have been injured. Simply in denial there is any connection. It’s hard to know what we know and keep silent. Prayer is all we can do.

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Reggie VanderVeen's avatar

If I were to send this superb piece on vaccine adverse events, I would be shunned and any access to my granddaughter would be suspended: https://open.substack.com/pub/gingertaylor/p/100-years-of-evidence-shows-us-that?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=71l80

My son has said as much. The captured regulatory agencies, Big Pharma, AAP, and the media have completely destroyed the relationship two grandparents and a granddaughter should be enjoying. Dare I say hundred of thousands of similar stories are out there?

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Jenna McCarthy's avatar

My sister is in the same boat. Forbidden from even MENTIONING the word vaccine, and then gets to watch her two grandsons when they're dropped off sporting fresh band-aids from their latest round of shots... Brutal. :(

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St. Alia the Knife's avatar

We know a lady whose nurse daughters made her get the shot (she didn't want to) in order to have access to her grandchildren. She got a weird, unexpected (no risk factors) turbo cancer and fortunately has survived and is in remission. To my knowledge the daughters have acknowledged nothing and she has chosen not to bring it up as family harmony is more valuable to her.

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Isabel's avatar

Yes!! To all of these stories that you are sharing. Best friends being forbidden to see their grandchildren unless they get their covid shot(s). A stage four cancer in a previously healthy individual right after the shot. My best friend’s otherwise brilliant daughter has forbidden her to mention vaccines in regards to her beautiful new granddaughter. It’s like an alternative universe! My daughter’s medical school recent graduates scoff and criticize with horrible memes - regurgitating what they’ve been (brainwashed) taught, with one getting Covid and one getting the flu soon after their shot. Go figure. Jenna, I’ve almost stopped reading about the subject I’ve known about for 30+ years because it’s too heartbreaking - even when we’re making some progress. but thank you for continuing the fight.🥺

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Tonee norman's avatar

So very sad:(

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SH's avatar

Hope your sister is aware most vaxxes are shedding for up to 7-10 days. That's why we continue to have measles outbreaks in the US.

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Tonee norman's avatar

For YEARS my husband was not allowed to go to certain friends homes,and,a family memorial service because,I WASN’T VAXXED!!

He ( who doesn’t listen to me at ALL about these things ) was fully jabbed and boosted….but,still,no go…They all act like it never happened or,give pitiful reasons for their insanity..

Fortunately,he SEEMS fairly unscathed by the spike junk,but,he also made some very big personal health changes,for the better…🤷🏻‍♀️

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

Ugh

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TeacherLori's avatar

🙋🏻‍♀️

21-month old grandson I only met once, at 6 days old, from a distance. My questions about the covid vax cost me that relationship.😔😢

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

My daughter told her two kids that she wasn’t very happy to have them around me because as she said, “We don’t know who Gramma has been around.”

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Warrior Mom's avatar

oh my god... I can't even imagine. so sorry for you, Mary Ann :(

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Tonee norman's avatar

So sad:(

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Curtis's avatar

💔

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Yes, I know many other grandparents who are heartbroken about the vaccines their grandchildren are receiving, and I’m one of them too.

I really appreciate the link you’ve shared. Thank you!

Here are some things I’ve done that have kept the communication lines flowing, in case they might be helpful to anyone. It’s long, but for anyone in this boat, maybe it’ll help inspire other ideas. It’s so sad how many of us grandparents have been walking on eggshells, and experiencing distancing from those they love most, over this issue.

1) I fully support my son and daughter-in-law as the ones who are in charge of all decisions regarding my grandson.

2) Initially I only voiced a general concern about vaccines, and then backed off when it wasn’t a topic they were willing to discuss.

3) after my grandson was born, I’d ask my son whether he’d be willing to look at a little bit of data that I wanted to show him, and when he said yes, I showed him only as much data as he was willing to look at - things like tables and graphs from Dr. Paul Thomas’ books. (As far as I know, none of the data was convincing to him.). At one point I asked him to please watch one interview of Dr. Suzanne Humphries, which he agreed to do, and afterwards he still felt that vaccines are mainly beneficial. (The brainwashing is hard to understand!)

4) this may seem very hokey, but I believe it’s Deepak Chopra’s “Life After Death” book that describes the following experiment performed on dogs and the owner the dog is most attached to. The owner leaves the house with a list of errands to run. A camera is trained on the dog at home, and on the owner in the car. The owner reads only one list item at a time. The last item on the list is “go home to your dog”. In these experiments, the timestamped cameras show that when the owner reads the last item on the list, the dog gets up and goes to the door to await the owners return. Based on those results, a few days before each vaccine visit (at 2 mos, 4 mos, 6 mos, etc) I would face the direction where my grandson lives, send lots of love to him and his parents, and then I’d silently tell him “Just poop it all out, sweetie, just poop it all out. Don’t let any of it go into your brain or anywhere else. Just send it straight into your poop. That’s where it’s supposed to go.” I’d imagine myself giving him a really warm hug and reassuring him that if he did that everything would be fine, and so forth. I know it’s hokey, but I decided that it can’t hurt, and it was the only possibly constructive thing I could think of to do.

The amazing thing is that when I asked how my grandson was doing after the first vaccine visit, my son told me that the grandson had had what he called “a big blowout” two days after the vaccines! I was thrilled to hear that. Even if it wasn’t related to my remote “coaching” it was a very good sign in my mind. After I got off the phone, I also silently/remotely gave my grandson another very warm hug and told him “Good for you, sweetie! You did it!” and told him to keep doing it. I’ve done the same thing for each vaccine visit, and I’ve heard of at least one or two big poops after the other visits. But I also don’t want to jinx the process by asking too many questions, so if they don’t volunteer the info, I just cross my fingers that that’s what happened.

5). When my son told me he didn’t want me to give him any further info on vaccines, I at first agreed to that request, but about two weeks later I couldn’t be comfortable with that agreement any longer, so I told him that I was going to send him info by email and that he was free to ignore the info if he wanted to ignore it. I told him that I have two 25-yr-old friends that I met while campaigning for RFK Jr, and that I had recently learned that they are both vaccine injured. I said that my grandson will very likely meet friends who are vaccine injured as he grows up, and that he will likely feel sorry about those injuries. I said that if my grandson asks me at age 18, “Grandma, did you share what you know about vaccine injuries with my mom and dad?”. I want to be able to say “Of course I did, sweetie, and they were also happy to look at it, and they made their decisions knowing all of it.”. It helped my son and daughter-in-law to understand a legitimate stake that I have in the issue.

Since then, my son has told me which data he most objects to, and I’ve avoided sending him those types of information. He prefers peer reviewed papers, so I was really happy to see the list you posted, and set it off to him right away. I’ve also sent him the Zervos paper that Del Bigtree shared at aninconvenientstudy.com.

So far, the information I’ve been sharing with them has not changed their minds, and I don’t even know how much of it they’re reading. I still have a lot of heartache and worry about the vaccines my grandson is getting, but these actions have helped me feel better about how I’m navigating the situation. I just couldn’t stay silent. I’m grateful they’re still speaking to me and they’re still welcoming me to be involved with my grandson. They told me just a few days ago that they’ve been talking about wanting me to come over more often to play and take care of him. Fingers are crossed that it’ll all somehow turn out ok.

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nancylee's avatar

the most legitimate stake that you have is that if there is a catastrophic injury the entire family could go bankrupt. You might ask your children if there is an injury would they expect family members to chip in. and therefor should family members have some say in the choice.

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My son and daughter-in-law clearly don’t think my grandson will be injured, and I also don’t want them to think that I would have any misgivings about providing financial support for him if it were needed, so the financial stake wasn’t relevant for my situation, but I agree that there are many reasons that we have a stake in the health outcomes for our grandchildren. I was looking for one that my son and daughter-in-law would be able to relate to, and I think it worked.

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Tonee norman's avatar

So sad,and,all too common :(

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Gwyneth's avatar

Thank you for this link!

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Wendy McNamee's avatar

My one child, who is about to graduate college, has been sucked in by a family in the medical field and refuses to discuss it with me, too. It's a sad state of affairs when you can't even open your own children's eyes. And he has a cousin that was vaccine injured. You'd think that would be enough. Unfortunately, until they see it in their own children, God forbid, their eyes will ever be opened.

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St. Alia the Knife's avatar

Unfortunately it is often the second child and on down who don't get vaccinated after their older sibling is undeniably injured by a vaxx.

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Immaculata's avatar

Again the schooling is largely propaganda based .

“Correlation isn’t causation” is a favorite term of the schooled unschooled folks who haven’t picked up a primary source of information in 20 years. Remember: “ I believe in science ?” I’m sorry what does that even mean?

Prayer is the answer when there is no conversation that can be had.

It is painful, but we pray together and that is powerful.

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

My answer to the correlation doesn't equal causation thing is, how many times do we see darkening skies, and hear thunder before we say, “STORMS are brewing, kids! Everybody out of the pool?”

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Peggy's avatar

I still remember in the very early days of the shots, a friend asking me why I don't believe in the science. I can still see the look on her face when I shouted at her -- that's NOT science! And yes I do believe in science. OMG... brainwashed so badly. I wonder how many of those jabs she and her husband got :( Sorry, this still gets me so fired up. And yes. Pray. All of us.

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Cheri Murray's avatar

My daughters feel the same way and their cousin died from the vaccine.

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Janet's avatar

🙏🏻. Reggie, That’s all I have for my grandchild—love and prayer. The gaslighting is horrendous. Evil isn’t an adequate word anymore.

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

Similar story in my family: my daughter insisted on her two teens being jabbed. I was told that since we disagreed about the shots, my opinion was not welcome and she would not talk about it with me. So far the kids are ok, but she has been diagnosed with scleroderma not long after her booster. It breaks my heart.

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

there are loads of terrific books you can send them!

•TURTLES ALL the WAY DOWN, •DISSOLVING ILLUSIONS, •VACCINES, AMEN! are three of my faves.

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TeacherLori's avatar

They won’t read them. Their minds are already made up.

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

I’m sorry. I can so relate. Hubs has had 4-5 covid shots. Two of my kids have had 1-2 each. My “baby” at least listened to me and didn’t get any, thankfully. As far as the regular childhood shots, no grandkids for me— yet. I’m gently working on getting them to stop vaxxing their pets and horses in the meantime.

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Immaculata's avatar

I’m so sorry. They were propagandized in school. It’s not totally their fault. They were brainwashed. Prayer and fasting is powerful. Don’t give up

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John Wright's avatar

Yes, {grin} I annoy my children by giving them books of all the things they don't want to know. 😇 At least I can say I "tried".

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

My daughter's reaction is the same as TeacherLori below: She would never read them. But I placed copies of each in our public library hoping that one day she will.

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HillsideFarmer's avatar

Yeah but they probably won't read them. I have sent books to some normies in my life. They haven't read them. They don't want to. They'd rather remain willfully blind.

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Dr. Molly Rutherford's avatar

I was brainwashed on vaccines, first at NIAID (when I worked for that troll Fauci), then at public health school (Johns Hopkins), then in my medical training. The propaganda is VERY effective. That I am now willing to wear the anti vax t shirt gives me hope that other people will see the truth on the demonic vaccine industry eventually.

Here I am on public television (KET) arguing with a couple of vaccine shills in Kentucky

https://ket.org/program/kentucky-tonight/vaccines-and-medications/

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Jenna McCarthy's avatar

The guy who says "don't scare people into making decisions that are not in their best interest" with a straight face hahahahaha you have the patience of a saint! I'd have throat punched him!!! ;)

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Dr. Molly Rutherford's avatar

My heart rate was 140 during the entire segment. I was so angry. I have mastered the ability to mask my emotions. Maybe I will try poker when I retire.

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Peggy's avatar

my heart rate is up just reading this. Kudos to you for seeineg truth from the middle of the bullshit.

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Jim Moore's avatar

Ditto! Although in my case, he’d need to see a proctologist to safely and effectively remove my shoe after I’d driven it up his arrogant and smug arse. 😁

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SH's avatar

Not sure there's room for your foot, when his head is already firmly up there.

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HillsideFarmer's avatar

Yes, and how about the guy who insisted "she's got it backwards" in response to a comment by one of the IMA doctors.

I watched the entire thing while I was at the laundromat yesterday afternoon.

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Immaculata's avatar

They deflected with smarmy examples that they were handed on an index card from their handler before they arrived.

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Leslie M's avatar

Wow. The men on that panel were all so patronizing and condescending! You and Dr. Biss have far more patience than I would have had. Nice job.

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Tonee norman's avatar

Thank you for your bravery,intelligence,integrity,and,service!

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Maureen's avatar

I was at a concert of Handel’s Messiah yesterday by a renowned musical orchestra and chorale. One of the singers wore a face mask. While she sang. It beggars belief how completely these sheeple have been indoctrinated.

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

I don't even know what to say about that. We have a physician here who also sings in her church choir. As covid was winding down, she continued wearing her mask to sing through, but probably worst of all, in order to sing at a church choir national event, she got her second booster. AND YET, both she and her physician husband expressed anger that one of the shots was tested on only 3 mice. Her husband used to be my physician. No longer. I'll never trust the medical establishment again. NEVER.

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John Wright's avatar

They have lost my trust permanently (of course they lost my trust *long* ago).

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

Same here.

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Leslie M's avatar

In 2025?! The choir director should have put his/her foot down.

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John Wright's avatar

Experimental shots are the express elevator to heaven!

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Anna Lafferty's avatar

I hope more people discover what you have, Wendy. Thanks for being open about it.

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SeeingTruth's avatar

I am greatful for your awakening and your integrity.

There are plenty of adults who are also vaccine injured by "standard" shots - some who know they're injured and some who don't know because the only injury that people only have slight awareness is about kids and autism.

I am injured by TDaP as an adult and tell everyone as part of my mission of educating others. Yes, I get all types of responses, looks, disbelief, etc. People don't understand injury is even possible because "safe and effective". Times are changing.

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TeacherLori's avatar

Thank you for sharing. My son required the following vaccines in order to see our grandson until he was fully vaxxed: Covid, flu, TDaP, and RSV. My husband and I couldn’t go along with it. What shocks me is how many other family members who were willing to do it. Our questions about the vaxes cost us any kind of relationship with our grandson (who is now 21-months-old and has had every recommended vaccine).

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nancylee's avatar

As one told me - I couldn't live with myself if that is true

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HillsideFarmer's avatar

I used to get vaccines. Not all if them; just some. I kept it to a minimum because I did know there was some risk associated with any vaccination.

But no more. The info that has come out during the past six years has cured me of any vax confidence I used to have.

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Peace's avatar

Well, these people are actually correct, just not in the way they think they are - vaccines ARE the gateway to heaven for those souls who succumb to the narrative.

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Kathy Lux's avatar

As long as they know Jesus, I guess.

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Ripple's avatar

Same here. I used to scoff at anti-vaxers but the whole C19 debacle forced me to rethink a lot of assumptions.

Are you related to the billionaire venture capitalist and leader of the band Moonalice, Roger McNamee?

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Marc Thimmel's avatar

Curious what parameters they used to evaluate to only arrive at 10%. It’s fascinating how still language can be manipulated so easy that even a dumb chicken farmer like me can do it with ease using text to speech walking to my truck. “Only” 10%…. We could also switch only to “at least”. Which would imply; “ as a federal agency hell bent on protecting itself, we included the cases that were undeniable, where it absolutely could not be argued there was any other cause”.

The members of your elected government, both parties, will absolutely traffic and lose, traffic for sex, or kill children, for even the smallest check from a lobbyist. No forgiveness is due to any member of Congress or anyone present in the White House because if we knew they definitely knew. Unbeknownst to most people seemingly, we have been at war for a very long time. Covid made that war obvious to more people. It has not been won. You should always be prepared for the next round….

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Janet's avatar

Frankly, I hate them all in congress. They get there and forces of evil and rank corruption and selfishness wrap them up in an impenetrable kryptonite overcoat. I only give props to Senator Johnson from Wisconsin. Don’t try to dissuade me. We have satan’s congress. My votes are still just rage votes against democrats. Only the vote for President Trump was a vote steeped in HOPE.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

John Kennedy is pretty great too.

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Alan's avatar

And Massie and Marjorie Taylor Greene (oops).

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Karen Bandy's avatar

😉

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

Meanwhile, Paul Offit has said that two children whom he claimed died from measles last winter was akin to a genocide.

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Janine Melnitz's avatar

He is a walking POS. That he gets any recognition is beyond me. He has so many conflicts of interest with the vaccine industrial complex.

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Indrek Sarapuu's avatar

Yeah, but he's compromised, and he's both FOS, & a POS.

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Immaculata's avatar

Paulie has made a handsome sum from his puppet masters

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HillsideFarmer's avatar

Very well said, Chicken Farmer!

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Leslie M's avatar

And yet, I think you (and Dr. Prasad) are still preaching to the choir. The people who most need to read this excellent and humorous (though dark) article won’t. Nor will they read Dr. Prasad’s memo. The eight or so women in my book club all chattered happily at our last meeting about getting their flu AND Covid boosters so they could go on their cruises. They make no connection between their shots and the fact that most get Covid on every cruise. It’s the ships, dontcha know...

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Jenna McCarthy's avatar

I know we’re supposed to focus more on what unites us than on what divides us, but I don’t know how you can sit in that room. I would not be able to bite my tongue!

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

And that is why I stopped attending the bookclub I had joined a decade ago: flu and covid boosters, they claimed were part of any sane person’s health care plan. Most also get the flu annually anyway but they cannot make the connection.

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Jim Moore's avatar

MAC, request to be reinstated and if you’re welcomed back, make your first book review recommendation be VACCINES, AMEN.👇🏼(Pitch it as a good news pro-jabs story.) And when, not if, they toss you out, at least you’ll have had the pleasure of metaphorically “sticking it to” the zombie pin cushions they are. 😂

https://vaccinesamen.com/

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

As it turns out, I have that book on my Kindle! I know they'd never go for it since the books (all novels) they choose are all alike: published about 2 days ago, written by women who write on one theme only: feminine self-actualization. One year I suggested that we read one literary classic per year, but that idea didn't go over well. Sigh....

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Jim Moore's avatar

Oh … so kind of like a Wiccans or feminazis book club then … good that you got out alive and well. ;-)

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

Good way to put it. There are so many good novels out there and they pick the worst every single time.

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Yana Nekula's avatar

I understand how you feel, Jenna (and Laura just a post below) but I also totally understand Leslie and how and why she does. At least for me, and I'll take the liberty to assume being in the same situation, I'm biting my tongue all day every day, otherwise I'd run out of rooms to be in. As much as our bubble here can feel like there's a tsunami coming (and please, Universe, bring it!) out there it's one friendship after another dying. Just now I'm wishing that my tonight's unguarded comment during a call about "shingles vaxx" for A$700 having been a total waste of money is not going to cost me yet another friendship. Not trying to contradict anyone, and Jenna you know I'm totally on board and love your writing, but at some point, there's no one else to call or debate books with. Let's hope for the tsunami, soon.

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Betsy Frost's avatar

Every day I bite my tongue! We really are a small number compared to the brainwashed.

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Laura Kasner's avatar

I was thinking that same thing, Jenna

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Leslie M's avatar

Well, I am in a very tiny minority here. I do try to discreetly suggest some reading and research that I found invaluable (The War on Ivermectin, for one. 😉) But women my age (seniors) are pretty locked into their beliefs, and prefer historical novels to current non-fiction. Sigh. Lovely people but the mainstream media have so much influence.

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MissLadyK's avatar

Like living in an alternative universe. Pays to keep your mind active and pliable, not gullible. The only time I ever caught the flu in the past nearly 20 years was on a ship in Eastern Europe a couple of years ago. No shots required, wasn’t Covid. I wasn’t tested but others who were tested negative. I had just recovered from some serious back pain, so the aches and pains were nothing in comparison. Others on the ship were in bed for 2-3 days, I didn’t miss a tour, a meal or a lecture in my 70’s. I recovered quickly, while many others could barely sit up. Being old doesn’t excuse us from being weak minded fearful gullible morons.

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MissLadyK's avatar

We focus on what unites us when fighting back the forces that are dividing us.

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Laura Kasner's avatar

Leslie - I wish I had a vial of clots to send you. You could play show and tell at your next book club meeting.

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Leslie M's avatar

I wouldn’t have a friend left here if I did that. I’ve already lost several just for saying I didn’t get the Covid shots and haven’t had a flu shot in 15 years. I’ve found that many people my age don’t even want to discuss controversial subjects, nor do they read much. Which is why I enjoy Substack: so many kindred spirits who do!

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Laura Kasner's avatar

It’s a high price to pay, Leslie.

I lost 95% of my friends. But I realized I had put so much of myself in to relationships that didn’t merit all that effort.

God has blessed me with new friends that indeed are worth the effort.

A favorite saying of my sister and I from MLK, Jr.:

In the end, it won’t be the words of your enemies but the silence of your friends.

No truer words.

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John Wright's avatar

Indeed! The silence of your friends hurts far more than anything enemies utter.

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Leslie M's avatar

Well, I don’t consider my friends who don’t think like me or aren’t as interested in independent research to be my enemies. This is my community and I am happy to share my opinions with those who are interested but I am not going to destroy friendships over the vax. It’s done enough damage.

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Laura Kasner's avatar

It’s troubling that you perceived my comment as saying my friends became my enemies.

Perhaps you misunderstood the quote by MLK, Jr.

My friends that KNEW the truth betrayed me in ways I choose not to discuss here.

If I was concerned about what would happen to my friendships (many that were decades long) I would have never answered God’s calling.

Choosing to become as deeply involved in this movement as I am has come at great cost.

I respect those who choose not to.

For me, it has been worth the losses. It revealed who my true friends were and more importantly, who were not.

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Transcriber B's avatar

Laura Kasner— I hear you. I too have lost most of my friends and mainly it was because I heard the Jab Crow shale that they said and did in 2021-2022 especially, and because of that I do not respect them, nor trust them, as I once did. That doesn't mean they're my enemies. I wish them well, however, my expectations about them got some chiropractic adjustments, shall we say. I'd rather see things clearly, and I am indeed grateful to see what I can see, even if that's disappointing, uncomfortable, humbling, and even sometimes very disturbing.

I can accept that not everyone cares about the things I care about or would agree with me— that's not the thing. It's about my trust that the other person is going to respect my person, and respect my friendship and my confidences. If someone would so easily discard you for not taking an experimental medical injection, if someone would, on the instructions from a bobblehead on TV, disinvite you from your own relative's funeral or from Christmas dinner, or celebrate to bar you, for not complying, from an airplane or tear away your livelihood, or your pension, or even see your children removed from your care, sorry, that's not a viable friendship for me. They don't get to take up space in my head, either.

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Leslie M's avatar
3dEdited

Gotcha. I did misread it and misunderstood your point. Mine do not know the truth, and are good, kind, well-meaning in every other way. I was like that years ago when I was far more liberal and believed what the media told me was the truth. Thankfully I’ve learned to do my own search for the truth.

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TeacherLori's avatar

I doubt it would make a difference. They are so blinded they can’t see what is right in front of their faces. It’s maddening (as you know).

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Leslie M's avatar

Cognitive dissonance. Too scary to face it

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Leslie Murphree's avatar

You are my hero. ♥️🤍💙

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Laura Kasner's avatar

Love you more, Sissy

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Karen Bandy's avatar

I love that idea 😆

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TeacherLori's avatar

I doubt it would make a difference. They are so blinded they can’t see what is right in front of their faces. It’s maddening (as you know).

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Trish's avatar

You may want to find another book club.

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

If I do, I'll start my own and only admit proud vaccine deniers. LOL

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4dEdited

My sister in law is very pro covid vax and has had several boosters. She gets covid all the time. She was just on a trip to Europe and got covid. ruined her vacation. Some people just cannot add 2+2 🤦‍♀️

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Warrior Mom's avatar

when I tell people like that, that I have never had covid nor ever had a covid jab, nor taken a useless covid test... they just stare at me like I never opened my mouth. OR they ask how do I know I never had covid if I never tested? well let's see... I haven't been sick at all ??? (deer in the headlights then)

I've never had a flu shot in my life and haven't had the flu in at least 20 years. my son's (age 21 & 19) have not had any jabs past 18 & 12 months, respectively. funny how we are very rarely ill (like once every couple of years, if that). that all must just be a fluke I guess. ;)

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Heather G's avatar

Sadly, the blind and deaf are still lining up for the Flu/Covid combo jab, driven by TDS and fear fed by mainstream media. My senior friends are all excited to get their new jab, they cannot, will not listen or see the truth.

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

WOW, a vaccine enthusiast motherload: the Flu/Covid combo. Sounds like a special at Appleby's.

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Valerie's avatar

I’ve been on cruises since covid and vaccines aren’t required. They’re still saying this now? Or was it during covid?

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Transcriber B's avatar

I know some people who took the latest covid booster in order to go on a cruise. I don't believe it's required, they just thought it was a good idea since they firmly and ardently believe that all "vaccines" are "safe and effective," so the more the better!! These same people also insist that RFK is a total nut. One of them came down with a rare pneumonia while on said cruise and ended up coming home to a stay in the ICU. And so, I expect, it will go.

The majority of the people I know who took 1, 2 or 3 shots and then quit jabbing appear to me to be more or less fine, able to work, work out, and travel to their satisfaction. The people I know personally who took more than that, they are all either dead, or suffering from various debilitating conditions. Many are recovering from surgery and/or from strokes, and many are suffering from depression and/or brain fog.

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Laura Kasner's avatar

TB - oh how I wish there was another option besides “like”

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Leslie M's avatar

Now. I don’t know if they are still required by the cruise lines; I think they really believe they will prevent them from getting sick. I don’t argue any more. I think it’s too frightening to them to acknowledge that the shots really are useless and dangerous.

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MissLadyK's avatar

Neighborhood book clubs are the worst. Dr. Malone once said, “all it takes is one person hearing the truth to make a difference”. I always kid about having an audience of one. One step at a time, one person at a time and never giving up, no matter how outnumbered one feels.

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Bridget's avatar

I still have a hard time imagining what's going to happen when is Overton window shifts more, or indeed if it can, because having to come to the conclusion that you were responsible in some small way for damaging your child is absolutely gutting. And most people don't want to open that door. I know that vaccines aren't the only culprit here in the vast number of chronic diseases and conditions we are seeing, but to admit that you played a part in harming your child - while ironically doing what you thought you needed to do to protect your kids - that takes steel. And I think for many it's way too painful to contemplate and I don't know if they'll be able to cross that bridge. I guess if the floodgates do open they'll be forced to, but I think more likely they'll just say that it's the crazy lunatics on the right spinning data to make it look that way. I have a friend whose kids must be vaccine damaged and she hates Kennedy with passionate vitriol.

But...a gal can dream.

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Jenna McCarthy's avatar

I call it the Erin Brockovich "kids in the pool" moment. I had mine--when I realized it wasn't *just* these newfangled Covid vaccines that were bad but ALL OF THEM--including the dozens I'd willingly given to my daughters, in particular the HPV vax that I resisted and fought and was finally manipulated into getting. I have to live with that. And I hate it but I also don't beat myself up too hard. I made the best decisions I could at the time with the information I was given. I'm still furious--but not at myself as much as the liars who fed us this BS.

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DJL's avatar

I was absolutely against getting my girls the HPV vaccination. Held out for the longest time. Then my OB/GYN, whom I trusted with my daughters lives and mine, convinced me that they needed to have it. I still feel incredibly guilty about that. Actually I feel pretty stupid about it, if I’m being honest. I should’ve never ever done that. And then you find out that there’s over 100 strains of HPV and the vaccine might protect them, might protect them, against maybe Nine of those strains. Nothing worse than mom guilt.

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Meddling Kid's avatar

Dads too. I took my sons for the same crap back around 2015 before we knew sooooo much more about what these are, what pharma is, and what the REAL risk vs reward was. Don’t blame yourself, we were all fooled, but now our eyes are wide open.

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Warrior Mom's avatar

and sadly, those 9 strains are the hardest ones for the body to clear. left alone, most healthy people clear these super common viruses all on their own. but then the jab puts the worst 9 of them, directly in the blood stream... and then there's the toxic adjuvants...

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Kaycee's avatar

I am in the same boat. I have girls. Was really not big on the HPV but my husband convinced me they needed it and I just did not think so. They were adults, got the jab and now I have one vaccine injured - perfectly healthy before, now she has hyper mobile EDS, pain in hands and arms that is maybe nerve related, has had chronic daily headache with no reason for any of this. I mean it just keeps coming. and no one here where I live will even acknowledge vaccine injury. and out of our ability to pay Dr. Kory or any of the frontline doctors who do treat, even online as their cost is HIGH and outside our insurance. Screwed.

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Patti F's avatar

It's not just girls. They're pushing it HARD on teenage boys. Really hard. I had to put my foot down at the last pediatricians office (we've since moved so he has a new doctor, who was fine with us refusing it) because she was pushing it so hard and I was sick of having the argument every time we went in.

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SH's avatar

Drs McCullough, Huscher and others are saying Nattokinase can bind/flush the spike protien. They also say that because of shedding, even those who did not get any c19 vaxxes should be taking it. We have ALL been exposed.

That HPV vax.... make sure they stay on top of their yearly exams and get checked if they notice ANY issues.

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Kaycee's avatar

She takes so many meds now I had put off detoxing her, but am moving forward with it, along with me and my husband. I didn't take it, he did. Was a believer in vaccines until I started providing him all the evidence of how ineffective and deadly they are. He is now convinced and will not take any other vaccinations although he is a doctor and the hospital makes the flu shot mandatory. So he gets the non mRNA kind and thankfully has never gotten the flu after all these years of taking it.

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Bridget's avatar

OMG I am so sorry to hear this :(

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Kaycee's avatar

Thank you.

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Bridget's avatar

You're a rare gem, though. And you clearly have guts aplenty. But yeah I think the only way it could happen is if people look, have the pool moment, and turn the rage OUTWARD.

(But then what?? I mean...measles herd immunity is indeed gone now. And until it's built back up again, babies and the elderly are at risk, in ways they weren't when the herd protected them. Will society allow a slow shift back to allowing children to get childhood illnesses? Hard to imagine. I wonder about this a lot...)

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Vitamin A cures measles.

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Bridget's avatar

Right, I didn't mean to imply it was unsurvivable. But how many scared new non-holistic moms are going to give their babies high-dose vit a? How many physicians will prescribe it, you know?

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Bridget's avatar

(And obviously there are other things you can do to support as well. I just mean - we're talking MAINSTREAM. If mainstream med is in charge, the supports won't be mainstream. At least not initially.)

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Here’s a perfect world…go back to the 1920’s and before. Before the Rockafellers brainwashed everyone to believe in ‘modern’ medicine.

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Bridget's avatar

...not to mention, in poor neighborhoods / inner cities, will these more natural means be made easily available?

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dubbydove1@yahoo.com's avatar

Are we a herd? I think those in positions of power would like to think so. CAFO's might be the next big thing to "cure" us of the next big thing. When I was young, there was no childhood vaccines. When a child came down with one of the usual diseases, the Health Dept. would leave a "Quarantined" notice on the front door of the child's home. That was the sign that all the other kids on the block needed to go to the back windows where the bedrooms were to visit our sick friend. None of the diseases ever lasted longer than a week, as uncomfortable as some of them were. But we not only recovered completely, we were immunized for life with no side effects. I don't recall one death at my school.

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Bridget's avatar

When my mom was worried about us not vaccinating, I told her to think back to her childhood and what it was like, and whether anyone actually died that she knew in her school or in neighboring schools, and what the worst side effects were for anyone she knew of, and that calmed her down. Because she had the same experience you did. But had spent such a long time hearing from the media about how deadly these things were that she had managed to forget for a little while! She completely understood after that

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Eli's avatar

Yep. We ALL got measles, we ALL got mumps, we ALL got Rubella. Nobody died. Nobody had their health destroyed. I knew one kid who has some slight hearing loss. Everybody got over it and felt stronger for having been through it. By contrast, I know three boys whose health has been destroyed my the mmr shot -- one now in wheel chair, one with constant seizures, one was in vegetative state, I assume he is now dead.

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Janet's avatar

We’ll get blamed for not warning them—enough. 🥲

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Laura Kasner's avatar

Yep

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dubbydove1@yahoo.com's avatar

Not just about vaccines, but also the food. But when I was a young(ish) mother, I also didn't know better than to be influenced by the food cartel which I believe works hand in hand with the drug cartel. I gave my children skim milk, cooked with soy oil, fed them oat meal, pasta, lots of carbs, bought margarine instead of butter. All done to keep them healthy, all manipulated by our government to provide profit for Big Ag. They both have asthma and allergies, I'm old and have neither. Yes, I wish I could go back and make other choices based on what I know now. But at least they still listen to me, neither of them has gotten the jab and both involved in natural healing.

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Patti F's avatar

When my husband had a heart attack in 2007, his cardiologist recommended we switch to margarine so we did! I haven't had margarine in our house in about 5 years now and he's just fine eating butter!

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Bridget's avatar

Yes. And even when our eyes are open, there are SO many different routes to take. Parenting ain't for the faint of heart!

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dubbydove1@yahoo.com's avatar

I imagine it's even harder now with our government claiming "ownership" of children. Learning identity fantasy instead of reading - or critical thinkiing. And drag queen story hours rather than nutritionist story hours. But the good of the internet is its made quite a difference in exposing us to the lies and also to more ethical doctors than I at least have ever met in a medical office with very few exceptions.

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Scott's avatar

Yes, the cognitive dissonance is too extreme. Their brains can't handle it. Others have noted that beliefs like those associated with vaxxes are usually impenetrable to facts. Remember the anecdote--true, I think--of the lineup at the clinic/CVS for the clot shot where a woman almost immediately collapsed, later died, and everyone just stayed in line like literal sheep to the slaughter. Safe and effective!

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Bridget's avatar

Oh gosh I remember hearing something about that. Yikes

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Patti F's avatar

A friend of mine, with an autistic son, was absolutely LIVID that RFKJr and Trump came out saying there may be a link to Tylenol use and autism. She posted all sorts of stuff online about how mothers are NOT to blame in any way, shape, or form, for their children's autism and to imply that is morally and ethically wrong. This is the same person who has ALL of the recommended covid shots, gets a flu shot yearly (because she had the flu once, about 20 years ago, truly thought she was going to die, and has been getting the shot ever since and hasn't had the flu since that one time, so in her mind, the shot has kept her from ever getting it again, despite evidence being shown to her. She insists it's the shot keeping her healthy, so shut up and don't question it), and is very vocal about people refusing ANY vaccine (Guardasil, anyone?). But the Tylenol thing? Furious about it. Not once ounce of "hmm... maybe there's some truth there". Nothing. Nada. Zilch.

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Bridget's avatar

It's so interested to watch. I have a friend whose world cracked open when her son was vax-injured and she couldn't deny it anymore. She went from being the office nag, "Have you gotten your flu shots yet??" to being the person who is anti-all-of-them. And it was a HARD journey for her. So, so hard to accept. But accept it she did. Eventually when it was too obvious to ignore as her son got worse and worse with each shot.

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Patti F's avatar

My son got whooping cough despite being vaccinated against it. That was my wake-up call, roughly around 2018.

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SH's avatar

What got me was all those pregnant tik-tokkers posting vids of themselves swallowing gobs of Tylenol, just cause RFK Jr said not to. Idiots.

Some people should not have children.

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Bridget's avatar

That was BEYOND. I was desperately hoping they were popping tic tacs...

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Tim Pallies's avatar

It's so twisted that she (and MANY) are focussed on the issue of blame re Tylenol. Get over it! The discussion should be about moving forward, not blame.

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Kaycee's avatar

tell her to read the product insert. it says it all and she should be pissed at the makers of it and the NIH and CDC and FDA and whatever other 3 letter agency involved that NEVER said this shit is not ok. You poor deluded friend. is it hard to stay friends with her?

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Patti F's avatar

There's definitely a strain. I don't say much. It's not worth the battle. She has some pretty severe TDS and is very pro-DEI (her husband is Hawaiian so is technically a minority so in her mind DEI is a good thing and helps him. Whatever). We don't live near each other so keeping my distance is easy at this point.

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When discussing this issue with my family, I lay out the facts and they scream "RFK has brainworms", "Trump, Trump, Trump" and then shut down. They can not accept that they have been duped. My brother and his wife have been jabbed at least 5 times. I'm amazed they're still alive. Just lucky thank god but definitely not well.

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Janet's avatar

I tried to impart one tiny nugget of truth at my senior coffee group recently and my friend next to me started sing-songing under her breath like saying “blah blah” to get me to stop. Incredibly rude and disrespectful. I’m rather pissed off about that. Won’t work on me the next time. Yup. It’s RFKJR and Trump. Truth won’t hit them until …… wait, it never will.

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Jenna McCarthy's avatar

😭

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Commoncents's avatar

Mistakes were never made, this was always a depopulation program. Those streaks in the sky ? Depop. Constant division from every source imaginable? Depop. Currency manipulation worldwide? Depop. Farmland getting bought up by billionaires? Depop. Its one thing to read this but its quite another to know this from balls to bones.

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Janet's avatar

Totally agree.

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John Wright's avatar

Safe = "It probably won't kill you today"

Effective = "It's very profitable"

Great article Jenna! We can only hope that some of the sheep will pull their heads out of the sand and start being concerned about being misled (or if you want to be blunt: outright lied to).

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Kathy Lux's avatar

I remember a discussion with a friend of mine. She was all excited that they were making the jab available for kids. Her granddaughter was about 11 at the time and autistic but very smart. She said “I cannot wait till she can get it.” I responded, “ I cannot disagree with you more.” A few seconds later I looked over and her eyes were filled with tears and she said, “ I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree.” But why the tears? This was very emotional for people. I am a Facts over Feelings person but it was obvious facts didn’t matter to her. Our relationship went downhill after that. Probably because I cannot fix stupid and it bugs me to hang around people that will not discuss facts. The facts early on (I read the entire Pfizer clinical trial document) were that this was not a good thing. The fact that everyone has not died proves nothing. Damages will continue to reveal themselves.

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Patti F's avatar

My husbands sister still wont allow us into her home because we're unvaccinated (but she had no problem attending our daughter's wedding with 150 people, and she travels regularly. We just can't stay overnight in her house if we visit). When we were into year 2 of the shots, and she had all of them, she told my husband that she was very very worried about us because we weren't getting them. My husband simply said "well I'm very worried about you, because you keep getting them". She didn't see it. Still doesn't see it. She thinks she's protecting herself. I'm sure her 2 grandkids, who are 5 and 7, have both received all of them because the whole family is brainwashed.

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Jenna McCarthy's avatar

I hear a version of this story every other day--MAKE IT MAKE SENSE! (I, too, had a friend who didn't want me in her house but would visit with me in a restaurant--as long as we wore our masks to walk in and out, eyeroll...)

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Patti F's avatar

Ah yes - the virus that only attacks when you're standing up. It's safe to remove the mask when you're seated. It's mind-boggling!

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dubbydove1@yahoo.com's avatar

Not just when you're standing up. The supermarket I shopped in insisted on mask wearing in the store. One exception: Apparently if you were drinking a beverage, the bad germs were respectful enough to take a break. All through the scamdemic when I shopped, I was drinking a coffee from their in-store Starbucks. Was never reproached for not wearing the mask. Coffee is a magic cure for covid hoax.

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Patti F's avatar

We were on a plane in August 2021. I told my son to eat his pretzels one nibble at a time - otherwise he'd have to wear a mask. We brought tons of snacks for that flight and ate them all so we wouldn't have to put them on. It was insanity.

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Eli's avatar

Patti I did the same thing with my grand daughter! I took her back and forth from CA to east coast about 16 times during the mask years, and she nibbled apples and other snacks the whole time on each flight. We were actually flying the day they rescinded the mask rule, but sadly we were not on one of those flights where they announced it and everybody cheered and threw their masks in the air lol.

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SH's avatar

The Largest False Religion in the World: Vaccines

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dubbydove1@yahoo.com's avatar

Why I calll it faith-based science.

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SH's avatar

Direct death is not their goal. They can't get cash for dead people; they get cash if you are injured and require further "treatment".

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Eli's avatar

Kathy, I read the entire Pfizer clinical trial document too -- it was available online before the shots became public, and I found that later it had disappeared and I wished I had printed it. Anyway, I sent it to my pro-vax niece who is also a scientist and I said "It's been a long time since my doctoral level statistics classes. Could you double check the math for me? It looks like the shots are less than 1% effective, they have not been tested for transmission and the difference between the two groups as far as asymptomatic infection is less than one in 1,000, so there is really no reason to take the shots either to protect ourselves or others." She did the math, confirmed the stats I had shared were correct, and went on to take all the shots and also give them to my 11 year old grand nephew.

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Transcriber B's avatar

That poor child.

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Steven Bradford's avatar

Next dig into the revolving door between the FDA, CDC, big pharma and big food, the AMA, the grants and bonus payout policies. Relationships that are clearly disqualifying because of conflicts of interest are ignored by those agencies and the politicians that cover them. If Americans knew that doctors are paid per vaccine shot they administer or when they prescribe one particular big pharma drug over the right drug because they were paid, or hospitals were paid for each covid death they reported, the people would lose their minds in anger.

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Janine Melnitz's avatar

I’m a OB/GYN and the vaccine loyalists are in full swing. I used to think they were ok, but after my own mild adverse event with a vaccine in 2019, I started doing a deeper dive. Boy was I wrong! I feel lucky this happened before Covid since I didn’t get the jab. But, the other day some people were worried that people around them getting Covid and that they should go get their booster! WTH? I try to talk to patients about it and they are getting the message but too slow for my taste. Dr Prasad had an excellent you tube channel before his role at CDC…this guy is crazy smart! Also, he likes to use well placed f-bombs which I appreciate. I was sad there weren’t any in his email…ha

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Jenna McCarthy's avatar

I love that you are still practicing “in the system“ and actually trying to educate your patients! I assume you are in private practice?👏

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Janine Melnitz's avatar

No actually hospital based. I know shocking! We could actually submit religious or medical exemptions for the Covid shot and get them approved.

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Eli's avatar

Jenna, you are brilliant when you are funny, but when you are enraged you are a force to be reckoned with. I SO hope you are right about this being the first crack before an imminent flood and change of course. Either way, I am inspired by your words.

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Jenna McCarthy's avatar

🥺🩷😘

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Metta's avatar
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Thank you, Jenna, as always, for calling a spade a spade. 🙏

It's tragic, though, that this particular spade is the one that dug the graves of *countless* children. . . . vastly more than 10. . . . .

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Roberta Stack's avatar

I can only hope that the floodgates will open and the truth spills out. Still waiting for the apologies for all these lies.

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Jpeach's avatar

The captured Media and Healthcare Complex will continue to mislead and cover up. I’m not sure what it will take to wake up my Family and Friends. But, we’re getting there.

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Janet's avatar
4dEdited

We had better contemplate how to deal with it. It’s a frightening thought actually. We will suffer again as they suffer or go through the realization. This will be a massive eye opening for humanity that will ripple or tsunami across generations. The forces in charge really will be no help. Some of these monsters may finally hear the pitchforks in the distance getting closer. I pray God gets to them first. Justice.

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Jpeach's avatar

At some point, the realization that we allowed ourselves and children to be poisoned, disabled and killed, will hit like a nuclear sledgehammer. The fastest way to defeat the “Cover Up” is to stop Pharma ads on all media.

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Dr. Raleigh Phillips's avatar

Open the floodgates ! 🌊 Bring on the tsunami!

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CCameron's avatar

This admission of killing kids, in print, is huge. It will not bring their lives. What has been happening all these years is pure evil. This admission, in writing, with respect to the words possible/probable relating to the vaccine, the words in real world, non trial injured and dead's medical reports, has kicked down the door between them and validation, including compensation.

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