This. 100%: “The question isn’t whether someone else’s money could help people. Of course it could. The question is why your money gets to be yours while someone else’s money is a community resource awaiting redistribution.”
If Elon’s trillion could solve all the problems in a year, then why can’t the SEVEN TRILLION that the US already spends every year solve anything? Anything? Because some huge chunk of it is wasted on bureaucracy, fraud, and supporting people who are perfectly able to work.
And also, can we note that Elon failed over and over and over before he became successful? So many people now will quit a job because the boss actually expected them to work a full shift but they were tired and wanted to leave early.
Whew! I. A little ranty this morning. I feel better now. 😅
That was EXACTLY my thought. If a trillion dollars could solve all these problems, why haven’t the utterly brilliant Socialist senators done so with OUR trillions? Hypocritical asses is the answer.
Spending money on sterilization drugs for third-world women that you disguise as life-saving medicine isn't "philanthropy," it's a war crime he should be prosecuted for.
Why did you even pose such a question? Just because the only thing Elon and Bill have in common is that they have a lot of money? That was ridiculous. SMH
How can people not see that he earned it ?!? This is the classic American entrepreneur success story. Let's celebrate his intelligence, tenacity, creativity, and determination. And the fact that several dozen employees who took a chance and stuck around are now sizeable millionaires 🤯. That's the .com IPO dream all my friends in tech had in 2000 😂😂
Someone who says "a trillion dollars could solve this or that problem" has not seemingly been paying attention to current events. Our government spends trillions of our tax dollars and solves virtually nothing. It's not about the money or the problem but about who is trying to solve it, and whether not solving it is more profitable than solving it (see homelessness).
Someone posted on x that the U.S. government spends $1 trillion every 49 days. That would mean they would blow through his entire fortune in 49 days without solving a single problem other than how to make themselves richer.
not tax money its fake money being printed with nothing supporting it whatsoever except the waning fear of our military. a myth iran is busting and the world is watching
The other excuse they’re throwing around for wanting to confiscate what they covet is “most of the wealth came from government-us-so it’s ours”. All the people saying this get ALL of their wealth from government, most of it magically appears in their bank accounts apart from their government salaries.
As Thomas Sowell said: “What exactly is your fair share of what someone else earned?”
Agree 100%. Lots of memes already about Elon being a maker and a giver, while all the congressional idiots bashing him do nothing but tax and take. And also, the government can't make anything, let alone rockets; it has to contract that job out to someone! Elon just happens to make rockets cheaper and better than anyone else so he gets the contracts. I read that it used to cost over $18 million per disposable rocket per launch but now it costs around $2 million and they are reusable. Same economics apply to the satellites that enable wi-fi in remote areas. He gets the contracts because his company gets the results. Bernie and Elizabeth et al are just greedy and jealous. People lined up to to invest in the stock; it was VOLUNTARY! Unlike taxes.
Oh now Jenna chimes in with a "Like". It's like she "Liked" the very first comment at 8:05am EST, Went back to bed and then got up an hour ago later and liked all the others. 🤣😜
Elon could’ve made a helluva super villain. Jeff Bezos might be. Bill Gates, Soros’s and other left wing billionaires definitely are. The first two guys are still adding value - although I’ll never forgive Bezos for bringing Katy Perry back to Earth - but by all means, ban the others.
I'd prefer to ban them all. Musk is the best, so I'm glad he's the richest. But, we'd be better off with a system that didn't continue to concentrate more and more wealth at the top. Not socialism, the free market economy works. Incentives matter, performance must be rewarded, sloth discouraged. I'd prefer a world where all the millions of hard-working, responsible citizens get a bigger piece of the pie, and the ruling class was brought down many pegs. Money is power. Right now it's too concentrated among a few sick individuals who run things to help themselves to more and more. Sooner or later more will wake up. Extreme wealth discrepancy breaks societies.
SteelJ, I think the educations the millions of hard-working, responsible citizens receive is not preparing them to seek out and take risks, but to seek out security in working for risk-takers and to satisfy their wants as if they were needs.
I agree. As a self-employed computer pro for 43 years, I once wondered why so many choose to toil for others instead of themselves. My wise wife long ago woke me up to what you stated - most people just want a job. I don't think it's so much education, it's more a fundamental difference between people.
I believe in the differences in people too: I divide people into ambitious and not. I'm not. I preferred my schlecht govt. job with no opportunities for advancement where all I had to do was eat my steaming bowl of manuremush every day until (forced) retirement.
...BUT, THAT realization; namely, that there is "ambition"--and that it can be a Very Good Thing when used well--was NEVER any part of MY education. I can imagine a number of reasons why "educators" would prefer to teach the fiction than the reality, but I think telling children about it, and similar things about business--like the nature of risk--and the importance of a resume that shows REPEATED failed attempts to innovate, could help the ones gifted with certain talents possibly see them earlier and be braver about starting out. Instead, education seems to be focused entirely on "what can be measured easily": grades. I mourn the planned demise of all the "hands-on" "trades" classes that taught youth the "Joys of Making."
I wonder how many natural entrepreneurs are out there in less-productive jobs, but I am encouraged by stories of people who start businesses "late in life."
Some of us had jobs but couldn't stand our bosses because the bosses didn't allow any out of the box thinking so we went out on our own to escape the madness of corporate life. I'm just an Artist though, so the only way I would get a trillion dollars is if I suddenly became famous after I died (which is when most successful Artists do become famous) and it went to my estate.
we are essentially herd mammals. study the dynamics of a herd of caribou or sheep or horses. a few outliers watching for danger, the rest necessarily eating unaware procreating
That is the real wisdom. Most normal folks would just destroy themselves with a trillion dollars. Elon may yet, but it’s the difference between the basic personalities of people. Take Bernie and Elizabeth as an example. Both are just glib takers with no real talent for anything except lying with a straight face. Then look at a guy like Elon or Bezos or even Bill Gates, for that matter. They each have a level of genius most people don’t and can’t ever achieve, no matter what “help” you give them. You can’t make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear.
I want fauxahont-ass to pay back the student loans she STOLE!!!! And if Bernie is so all about Socialism, lets see the proof - you turn over your funds first As*hole!
Doesn't "concentrate the wealth" how? What would that system look like? If someone creates something that everyone wants and is willing to pay for, do you then say that they can only sell "X" amount of it? Only allow "X" number of people to make it? Refuse to give them patents? Tax 100% of the money they make above a certain amount or is left after they die? Limit the profit margin? How will this de-concentration of wealth occur and by whom?
It has always been like this. There are people willing to take the risks to create the things people want or need and results in leaps forward in technology or services. In the Gilded Age, they ranted about the "robber barons", but before they became the "robber barons", they were the people willing to risk everything to build factories, railroads, telegraph companies, finance the innovations, and create the thousands upon thousands of jobs of the Industrial Revolution. Then those awful people used their money to fund schools, libraries, and universities still in existence today.
OK, you are a true believer. I think there is a point where the concentration of wealth at the top is excessive. You don't. Simple as that. Your straw man arguments are not helpful. Of course it would be dumb to limit sales or patents. Same with the profit margin. Free markets create value and wealth, and reward productive individuals. Do you really think Bezos, Soros, Adelman, et al are producing value? However, deciding which billionaires create value, like Musk, and which don't is a slippery slope. Who decides? Nobody is qualified. So, no exceptions to removing the billionaire class. As far as estate taxes, we had confiscatory estate taxes for a reason, and revenue generation isn't it. It's to prevent the rise of a ruling class like the settlers of the new world fled. Yes, I'm all for extremely high estate taxes on the billionaire class. Without some mechanism, and that's one, we're destined to be ruled by something not akin to democracy. In fact, we're there already.
I see your point. However, what is too much, who decides what is too much, and what agency do you propose have the right to strip people of their money?
I'm more concerned with any ruling class being a sclerotic bureaucracy composed of facility lounge experts who have never built a business or run a company, except in theory and who believe that we're just one more rule, regulation, or tax away from utopia.
Who decides? The same elected representatives who decide tax rates, the military budget, and who also mandated jabs, gave us the rest of the insane COVID response, stupid foreign wars, and enough other atrocities to fill a book. You seem to be noticing there are pitfalls and challenges to a wealth cap. Yep, we can't imagine them all. I'd prefer to err on the high side, since I dislike government power and hate the idea of wealth confiscation. I hate the idea of living in an oligarchy, that inevitably slides into total tyranny more though. The first step is always to clearly identify what the problems are. We have many, your second paragraph identifies another one. A wealth cap goes against capitalist purity. That doesn't mean it should be off the table if we self-destruct without it.
Yep, it was the one of the first thing I noticed in early 2020. I remember thinking how they're taking all the small, independent entrepreneurs out of the game, and funneling all the spending to the massive corporations., Those pulling the strings are gonna milk this for all they can. And they did.
A friend shared that a guy doing work at her house said that Elon got all of his money from Doge....not kidding, the guy was serious.
He also went on about how masks helped so much during covid. In rebuttal, she gave the analogy of mosquitos flying through chain link fences re the lack of mask protection. The guy said she was wrong, and then went into his own analogy about if my friend had a mask on her leg and he peed on her leg, her leg would only get a little wet so she would be protected. He then went on to if he also had a mask on his leg, it would be protective to them both. I'm still unclear in his mind how that works. No, I'm absolutely NOT kidding, this was a real, completely illogical, insane conversation. Of course when continuing to be challenged, the guy shouted he was a "scientist" (he isn't) and then quickly left.
If that guy is dumb enough to believe the stupid stuff he says, I’d be pretty concerned he’s dumb enough to get the electrical wiring or plumbing all wrong too. He’s not the only handyman out there 😅
This. 100%: “The question isn’t whether someone else’s money could help people. Of course it could. The question is why your money gets to be yours while someone else’s money is a community resource awaiting redistribution.”
Bad ass. 🤬🍑😘❤️
If Elon’s trillion could solve all the problems in a year, then why can’t the SEVEN TRILLION that the US already spends every year solve anything? Anything? Because some huge chunk of it is wasted on bureaucracy, fraud, and supporting people who are perfectly able to work.
And also, can we note that Elon failed over and over and over before he became successful? So many people now will quit a job because the boss actually expected them to work a full shift but they were tired and wanted to leave early.
Whew! I. A little ranty this morning. I feel better now. 😅
🎯👏💯
That was EXACTLY my thought. If a trillion dollars could solve all these problems, why haven’t the utterly brilliant Socialist senators done so with OUR trillions? Hypocritical asses is the answer.
Love Elon! He deserves every trillion dollar. He’s a genius and a philanthropist. I agree with every word you wrote and couldn’t have said it better!
are you also a bill gates fan?
Spending money on sterilization drugs for third-world women that you disguise as life-saving medicine isn't "philanthropy," it's a war crime he should be prosecuted for.
Bill Gates and Fauci are criminals
And Bourla and Gottlieb… pile on people.
Why did you even pose such a question? Just because the only thing Elon and Bill have in common is that they have a lot of money? That was ridiculous. SMH
ck out this podcast by james corbett
https://corbettreport.com/musk/
Big noooo
Musk is not worth a Trillion in cash. Just on paper. But, a Trillion Thanks to Musk for buying and freeing X from the Propagandists.
How can people not see that he earned it ?!? This is the classic American entrepreneur success story. Let's celebrate his intelligence, tenacity, creativity, and determination. And the fact that several dozen employees who took a chance and stuck around are now sizeable millionaires 🤯. That's the .com IPO dream all my friends in tech had in 2000 😂😂
Reportedly, the number of newly-minted SpaceX employee millionaires is 4400, with 400 of them becoming centi-millionaires.
Someone who says "a trillion dollars could solve this or that problem" has not seemingly been paying attention to current events. Our government spends trillions of our tax dollars and solves virtually nothing. It's not about the money or the problem but about who is trying to solve it, and whether not solving it is more profitable than solving it (see homelessness).
Someone posted on x that the U.S. government spends $1 trillion every 49 days. That would mean they would blow through his entire fortune in 49 days without solving a single problem other than how to make themselves richer.
100%
not tax money its fake money being printed with nothing supporting it whatsoever except the waning fear of our military. a myth iran is busting and the world is watching
Preach it Sister!
Great post.
"The arithmetic of inequality is infinite—it just stops wherever the person doing the math happens to be standing."
One of the perennially truest things ever said.
The other excuse they’re throwing around for wanting to confiscate what they covet is “most of the wealth came from government-us-so it’s ours”. All the people saying this get ALL of their wealth from government, most of it magically appears in their bank accounts apart from their government salaries.
As Thomas Sowell said: “What exactly is your fair share of what someone else earned?”
Love that quote!!
Government would have less to say about how tax money is spent if government had less of our money to spend and no way to print more out of thin air.
THAT is the problem that needs to be solved.
Agree 100%. Lots of memes already about Elon being a maker and a giver, while all the congressional idiots bashing him do nothing but tax and take. And also, the government can't make anything, let alone rockets; it has to contract that job out to someone! Elon just happens to make rockets cheaper and better than anyone else so he gets the contracts. I read that it used to cost over $18 million per disposable rocket per launch but now it costs around $2 million and they are reusable. Same economics apply to the satellites that enable wi-fi in remote areas. He gets the contracts because his company gets the results. Bernie and Elizabeth et al are just greedy and jealous. People lined up to to invest in the stock; it was VOLUNTARY! Unlike taxes.
Everyone paying attention saw the outrage coming, no one who understands anything about finance and economics was troubled by the mile stone.
Oh now Jenna chimes in with a "Like". It's like she "Liked" the very first comment at 8:05am EST, Went back to bed and then got up an hour ago later and liked all the others. 🤣😜
I actually work out every morning immediately after I post😂
Yeah we Elderly People have to do that kinda thing :D
Exactly. How much are you worth (not you, personally, the collective "you")? Now, how much cash can you get your hands on in one hour?
Let's not forget: A trillion dollars ain't what it used to be. Heh.
😂
It seriously isn't! People really don't understand the devaluation of the dollar! Fiat trash!
🤣🤣🤣👍🏻
Elon could’ve made a helluva super villain. Jeff Bezos might be. Bill Gates, Soros’s and other left wing billionaires definitely are. The first two guys are still adding value - although I’ll never forgive Bezos for bringing Katy Perry back to Earth - but by all means, ban the others.
Katy Perry 😝🤣😝🤣😝🤣😝
I'd prefer to ban them all. Musk is the best, so I'm glad he's the richest. But, we'd be better off with a system that didn't continue to concentrate more and more wealth at the top. Not socialism, the free market economy works. Incentives matter, performance must be rewarded, sloth discouraged. I'd prefer a world where all the millions of hard-working, responsible citizens get a bigger piece of the pie, and the ruling class was brought down many pegs. Money is power. Right now it's too concentrated among a few sick individuals who run things to help themselves to more and more. Sooner or later more will wake up. Extreme wealth discrepancy breaks societies.
SteelJ, I think the educations the millions of hard-working, responsible citizens receive is not preparing them to seek out and take risks, but to seek out security in working for risk-takers and to satisfy their wants as if they were needs.
I agree. As a self-employed computer pro for 43 years, I once wondered why so many choose to toil for others instead of themselves. My wise wife long ago woke me up to what you stated - most people just want a job. I don't think it's so much education, it's more a fundamental difference between people.
I believe in the differences in people too: I divide people into ambitious and not. I'm not. I preferred my schlecht govt. job with no opportunities for advancement where all I had to do was eat my steaming bowl of manuremush every day until (forced) retirement.
...BUT, THAT realization; namely, that there is "ambition"--and that it can be a Very Good Thing when used well--was NEVER any part of MY education. I can imagine a number of reasons why "educators" would prefer to teach the fiction than the reality, but I think telling children about it, and similar things about business--like the nature of risk--and the importance of a resume that shows REPEATED failed attempts to innovate, could help the ones gifted with certain talents possibly see them earlier and be braver about starting out. Instead, education seems to be focused entirely on "what can be measured easily": grades. I mourn the planned demise of all the "hands-on" "trades" classes that taught youth the "Joys of Making."
I wonder how many natural entrepreneurs are out there in less-productive jobs, but I am encouraged by stories of people who start businesses "late in life."
Respect.
I would encourage most people now to learn a trade instead of college..
Some of us had jobs but couldn't stand our bosses because the bosses didn't allow any out of the box thinking so we went out on our own to escape the madness of corporate life. I'm just an Artist though, so the only way I would get a trillion dollars is if I suddenly became famous after I died (which is when most successful Artists do become famous) and it went to my estate.
we are essentially herd mammals. study the dynamics of a herd of caribou or sheep or horses. a few outliers watching for danger, the rest necessarily eating unaware procreating
That is the real wisdom. Most normal folks would just destroy themselves with a trillion dollars. Elon may yet, but it’s the difference between the basic personalities of people. Take Bernie and Elizabeth as an example. Both are just glib takers with no real talent for anything except lying with a straight face. Then look at a guy like Elon or Bezos or even Bill Gates, for that matter. They each have a level of genius most people don’t and can’t ever achieve, no matter what “help” you give them. You can’t make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear.
I want fauxahont-ass to pay back the student loans she STOLE!!!! And if Bernie is so all about Socialism, lets see the proof - you turn over your funds first As*hole!
Doesn't "concentrate the wealth" how? What would that system look like? If someone creates something that everyone wants and is willing to pay for, do you then say that they can only sell "X" amount of it? Only allow "X" number of people to make it? Refuse to give them patents? Tax 100% of the money they make above a certain amount or is left after they die? Limit the profit margin? How will this de-concentration of wealth occur and by whom?
It has always been like this. There are people willing to take the risks to create the things people want or need and results in leaps forward in technology or services. In the Gilded Age, they ranted about the "robber barons", but before they became the "robber barons", they were the people willing to risk everything to build factories, railroads, telegraph companies, finance the innovations, and create the thousands upon thousands of jobs of the Industrial Revolution. Then those awful people used their money to fund schools, libraries, and universities still in existence today.
OK, you are a true believer. I think there is a point where the concentration of wealth at the top is excessive. You don't. Simple as that. Your straw man arguments are not helpful. Of course it would be dumb to limit sales or patents. Same with the profit margin. Free markets create value and wealth, and reward productive individuals. Do you really think Bezos, Soros, Adelman, et al are producing value? However, deciding which billionaires create value, like Musk, and which don't is a slippery slope. Who decides? Nobody is qualified. So, no exceptions to removing the billionaire class. As far as estate taxes, we had confiscatory estate taxes for a reason, and revenue generation isn't it. It's to prevent the rise of a ruling class like the settlers of the new world fled. Yes, I'm all for extremely high estate taxes on the billionaire class. Without some mechanism, and that's one, we're destined to be ruled by something not akin to democracy. In fact, we're there already.
I see your point. However, what is too much, who decides what is too much, and what agency do you propose have the right to strip people of their money?
I'm more concerned with any ruling class being a sclerotic bureaucracy composed of facility lounge experts who have never built a business or run a company, except in theory and who believe that we're just one more rule, regulation, or tax away from utopia.
Who decides? The same elected representatives who decide tax rates, the military budget, and who also mandated jabs, gave us the rest of the insane COVID response, stupid foreign wars, and enough other atrocities to fill a book. You seem to be noticing there are pitfalls and challenges to a wealth cap. Yep, we can't imagine them all. I'd prefer to err on the high side, since I dislike government power and hate the idea of wealth confiscation. I hate the idea of living in an oligarchy, that inevitably slides into total tyranny more though. The first step is always to clearly identify what the problems are. We have many, your second paragraph identifies another one. A wealth cap goes against capitalist purity. That doesn't mean it should be off the table if we self-destruct without it.
The Plandemic was great for TPTB to close middle class owner operated businesses and increase sales for the 'Mega-businesses'!
Yep, it was the one of the first thing I noticed in early 2020. I remember thinking how they're taking all the small, independent entrepreneurs out of the game, and funneling all the spending to the massive corporations., Those pulling the strings are gonna milk this for all they can. And they did.
Can anyone say “Sour grapes?”
“Elizabeth Warren” did I pronounce it right? lol
Pronounced po-co-han- ‘tis lol
A friend shared that a guy doing work at her house said that Elon got all of his money from Doge....not kidding, the guy was serious.
He also went on about how masks helped so much during covid. In rebuttal, she gave the analogy of mosquitos flying through chain link fences re the lack of mask protection. The guy said she was wrong, and then went into his own analogy about if my friend had a mask on her leg and he peed on her leg, her leg would only get a little wet so she would be protected. He then went on to if he also had a mask on his leg, it would be protective to them both. I'm still unclear in his mind how that works. No, I'm absolutely NOT kidding, this was a real, completely illogical, insane conversation. Of course when continuing to be challenged, the guy shouted he was a "scientist" (he isn't) and then quickly left.
I wouldn’t have that guy doing work @ my house going forward 😂
Yeah, the whole peeing on your leg analogy….
unless of course you are incapable of doing the job yourself
If that guy is dumb enough to believe the stupid stuff he says, I’d be pretty concerned he’s dumb enough to get the electrical wiring or plumbing all wrong too. He’s not the only handyman out there 😅
Some say IQ is intangible, but clearly you can see the hues of it when people speak.
“Better to let people think you’re a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.”
👍
lol so often the case
Hard to "LIKE" this, but I owe it to you for sharing it.
I would have looked up the video of the guy blowing smoke past his mask. And those are molecules, MUCH larger than viruses.
And he VOTES!
If he put the mask over 'his middle leg' and pee'd on her that would protect her... Hahaha...
Dang! People are DUMB-ashes!
Sadly, there are still stupid people who believe Bernie and Elizabeth. They can not grasp the irony…..