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Heather B's avatar

Everything you said! I can't believe all the flip flops. Baron Coleman is a lawyer who has been dissecting the case. He showed the footage last night that 2 women who were in the courtroom said was what was shown there and you could not possibly tell who was on the roof. Plus, a restaurant in Panguitch has video of Tyler being there at around 10 PM so that ruins the Fed narrative/timeline. Last night a worker at the restaurant who checked Tyler out and saw his name on the receipt says they told the FBI soon after the event, and the FBI has never contacted the restaurant or any of the workers there or asked for the footage, just ignored it. Not exactly turning over all the stones to get to the truth, so I do not trust the Feds at all, still.

Joanie Higgs's avatar

Yup, all that video footage "clearly showing Tyler Robinson" is gaslighting to the nth degree. Even found myself scratching my head in my best straw-man's effort to "see" it.

Stephen Kastner's avatar

I have a theory I have been entertaining for years, and it started with Obama after he was elected. The first thing he did was turn around 180 and give all the big banks a bailout. What? My theory is that there is a little golden bullet with the initials JFK on it. When you get elected, they show you that bullet. And then they just say, "Behave yourself or else."

LINCOLN LOVER's avatar

That is no theory. Read history. There is a lot of history which proves that the world is being run by such devils who do what you have said.

Stephen Kastner's avatar

Yes I believe the two party system is a myth they have invented to keep us arguing about the shadows on the wall.

Candace Lynn Talmadge's avatar

Stephen, how I desire with all my heart to pass by your comment without thinking about it. But I agree. Kennedy's murder was a warning to all future presidents. Don't mess with the money boys or you are toast. Ohio Rep. Marcy Kaptur stated in a documentary called Uncounted that members of Congress were threatened back in 2008, before the presidential election when Wall Street first went south. Either bail out the Big Banks or face another Depression. The bank bailout started with the George Bush administration and continued with Obama's. In the grand old US of A, money gets what money wants. It always has.

Stephen Kastner's avatar

And then there was RFK, and then there was Martin Luther King, and the list goes on. And with all of these, we were told one thing, the official narrative, and we were expected to believe it. Now it's the same nonsense with Charlie Kirk. Nothing ever adds up.

Infanttyron3's avatar

Each new Prez sees a bullet custom-engraved with their own initials on it...questions?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8IvKx0c19w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIiCjhCBDaM

Stephen Kastner's avatar

I’m too humble to say ‘great minds think alike,’ but if I’m even channeling Bill Hicks-shaped echoes, I must be doing something right.

Infanttyron3's avatar

If those clips were new to you, then you're definitely in a good lane, between the Scylla of false humility and the Charybdis of actual arrogance. Stoics FTW. :-)

Doug's avatar

My favorite Bill Hicks routine (RIP, Bill) is when he talks about the moments following an inauguration, where the newly-sworn in President is brought into a little darkened theater and shown a film of the JFK assassination from an angle nobody has ever seen before. When the lights come up, a voice from an overhead speaker asks, "any questions?"

MissLadyK's avatar

When push comes to shove, it’s always about the money and to hell with ideology for the time being.

Jeanne Dukes's avatar

Read: The Killing of Uncle Sam. Excellent book.

SHug's avatar

Can we say see-eye-aye....

Craig B's avatar

Tyler took a screw driver, disassembled, reassembled, calibrated, shot, disassembled, and then reassembled the vintage rifle to be left in the woods? The wound is inconsistent with a 30.06 wound, the crime scene was scrubbed, including excavation and repaving within days, a million $ security team was defeated by a confused kid--they were not fired--no ambulance on site, no video from hospital, miracle neck story, ridiculous confession by text, with details and language used by no one on the planet when sending texts, etc., etc. And this is just for starters. Forgone conclusion narrative within 33 hours, anyone with questions demonized and now called insane.

Jenna McCarthy's avatar

STOP THINKING SO HARD CRAIG. THAT'S FROWNED UPON IN THIS CASE. ;)

Jaime's avatar

Well u can once again thank crazy Candace for in true megalomaniac fashion usurping all reason with her own versions bypassing reasonable questions with extreme and dark and dangerous conspiracy for her own ego.. it’s exhausting. I’m sick of it. Look to the Word for real- not the fake one these influencers pretend to follow - the REAL one- the one Charlie followed- THAT Influencer.

This side show has confused and demoralized everyone just like Satan loves according to his evil plan- are u indulging in it?

If Candace is right- Charlie was the dumbest guy on earth.. not the smartest.. and she saw it because well you guessed it- she is really the smartest person on earth. AND she will destroy every single thing her “bestie” gave his life to and for to very pathetically prove it to her popcorn eating internet conspiracy addicted tabloid fans!! His name and everything Holy to him has been replaced with vile accusations.

1) his PROTESTANT faith ( stupid as she called it)

2) His family ( all a bunch of performative handlers)

3)His country ( evil sell outs to Israel )

4)TPusa ( a mix of the above )

I wonder why God hates gossip?

If ur part of this you better pray you are right cuz one things for sure- if you’re wrong- Charlie’s version of faith would have those participants of it spending an eternity on the other side of where he is. God bless you Charlie Kirk.

Tim Pallies's avatar

I just can't get my head around the immediate destruction of the crime scene. I am 99% certain there is more to this story.

Erika's avatar

This is actually on of the key points for me too. I just can’t imagine a case like this having the crime scene literally paved over so quickly. I’ve done crime scene work & the work goes on for days, sometimes weeks. Granted there probably wasn’t a lot of evidence because it was a distance shot, but still…I’ve examined blood shirts of shooting victims & found foreign DNA linked to the suspect…so it is possible.

nancylee's avatar

nicely succinct

Dr. Molly Rutherford's avatar

Charlie was so impactful at spreading the Gospel, he had to be taken out. Spiritual warfare. Ephesians 6:12

Skeptical Actuary's avatar

You have questions. I have questions too, especially about the ballistics.

The difference between us is that if there is a satisfactory answer to my questions, I will be satisfied.

You really expect video from the hospital? You really expected an ambulance on site? They knew they had to get Mr. Kirk to a hospital ASAP to have any chance of saving him.

Dr. Molly Rutherford's avatar

Things I can say for certain: They absolutely have enough damning evidence for a trial, and Lance Twiggs is a liar. "We never talked about trans stuff...I'd never heard of Charlie Kirk."

Give me a break.

Things I cannot say for certain: Tyler Robinson acted alone.

Lynn Barton's avatar

Same. I don't believe Glenn Beck and Megyn Kelly are lying. I don't believe they have somehow gone Deep State. I don't know the other people so have no opinion. It seems clear that Robinson killed Charlie, but that doesn't mean a deep state actor wasn't also involved. We still don't know the truth about JFK, so highly doubt we will ever know. I do not know what happened to Bongino and Patel.

Dr. Molly Rutherford's avatar

We still know nothing about Crooks!! Insane.

hrsesq's avatar

This is a continuation of my comment as I inadvertently hit the button. Anyway, the Attorney, who goes by the name Lionel thinks that the intent was to “Crooks” Tyler Robinson. But he got away.

LINCOLN LOVER's avatar

SEEMS PLAUSIBLE. They use these young vulnerable guys as pawns/patsies to cover up the real devils who covet running the world on the devil's terms. School shooters are all set up by "them".

hrsesq's avatar

This is a page out of the same old playbook. Oswald did not kill JFK. As a child I heard Oswald yell out “I am a Patsy.” as he was being carted away. Oswald was a CIA Asset. The next day he was killed by Jack Ruby, who was also a CIA Asset. RFK Jr. has written about MK Ultra and other programs that they have used to effect mind control over individuals. He is also convinced that Sirhan Sirhan did not kill his father, even though he was on the scene and had a gun, but he had been subjected to drugs involved with mind control. This isn’t a conspiracy theory. It is known fact. Tyler Robinson may believe that he was recruited to kill Charlie Kirk and may even think that he did kill Charlie Kirk, but that doesn’t mean that he actually did kill Charlie Kirk. The attorney, Lionel, brings out the fact that people surrender to police and confess the crimes all the time that they did not commit. There’s a lot of evidence about the damage the shell from that gun would’ve done to Charlie Kirk if it had been the means by which he was killed. I am more persuaded by the possibility of Charlie Kirk‘s lapel microphone exploding. It makes more sense since there’s no exit wound and he was not totally decapitated.

Proberta's avatar

The Conspiracy Community has a good rule of thumb: After any horrific event, wait 3-5days before forming an opinion.

Why? Because it typically takes 3-5 days for the videographers to dissect frame by frame and locate the inaccuracies and the staging. This guy got his video out quickly, but was deleted from YouTube just as quickly.

https://rumble.com/v6zadbw-charlie-kirk-the-hologram.html?e9s=src_v1_s%2Csrc_v1_s_o&sci=cce4ec45-f213-4aab-b01d-96cddb502a7b

Dr. Molly Rutherford's avatar

Depends on who you believe. I know some firearms experts and if the ammo is what they say it was, the injury and lack of exit are plausible.

Donna in MO's avatar

Or the Las Vegas shooter, Stephen Paddock.

hrsesq's avatar

Don’t know if you saw the comment I just left, however, the attorney I mentioned who goes by the name Lionel, thinks that the intent was to “crooks”

David Baldwin's avatar

Now I'M CONFUSED! I need more data. I need more video. I need more ballistic tests! Something doesn't pass my smell test and I can't even put my hands around it. Back in 1963 when Jack Ruby shot Lee Harvey Oswald, I thought it was an open and shut case regarding the assassination. Decades later I come to realize from additional evidence, nothing was as it was presented. This could be the same type of situation. But I don't have 30-40 years to find out!

LINCOLN LOVER's avatar

It is always like this. We will never be allowed to know bc that takes away the cover they have so meticulously created for decades and centuries. There are history books about these evil doers and their massive control of the world in these days. And it is not the JEWS. That is what they want everyone to think, of course.

Dr. Molly Rutherford's avatar

It's the Satanists, whether they call themselves that or not. Tyler and Lance are useful idiots for Satan. Discord and other social media are portals for demons. (I know I sound nuts, but I have done a deep dive on spiritual warfare. Nothing else makes sense.)

David Baldwin's avatar

Thanks Dr. Rutherford. I didn't know Discord was a portal for demons. But it makes sense. No, you are not nuts! You just have an opinion that is spot on!

MaryAnn's avatar

I am starting to believe Tyler was supposed to be eliminated and the case would be ‘solved’ as was Butler.

I think he was set up to be a decoy and then silenced.

But, he survived and is not talking. He lawyered up as soon as he was in custody.

The perps, whoever they are, are having to construct a narrative out of weak, blurry video, a bullet that did not exit, missing ballistics, multiple samples of DNA on the gun, towel, etc. and contradictory video statements of what happened in the transport vehicle and at the hospital.

No 911 call. No ambulance.

Bongino, Posibeic, Benny J are either scared spitless or sold out.

Tonee norman's avatar

It must be some terrible threats to their loved ones. If someone tells you they are going to do some unthinkable torture to your babies,and,shows you proof they are perfectly capable of doing it,who among us would not give in completely to their demands?

Nancy Fahey's avatar

Bingo, I think the same way…what could possible be held over them!

LINCOLN LOVER's avatar

Yes, it is all too defined and perfect, yet completely unplausible for anyone with 2 braincells.

nancylee's avatar

or both. a carrot goes very nicely with an assassination threat of your own.

Dr. Molly Rutherford's avatar

University police apparently told Charlie's team that they had that building covered, but clearly they lied or were incompetent. I can believe that his friends/security team would immediately attempt to transport him, thinking that they were protecting him and themselves from further danger...knowing first responders and cops.

Linda E's avatar

I think it's possible to have opposing opinions based on the same evidence without assuming someone is lying or paid off. I began to assume this Tyler kid was guilty when I heard his parents said he confessed to them and helped him turn himself in. Maybe that wasn't true? I don't know. I have been unusually uninterested in this trial because everything around it is so ugly and vicious and messy. And I don't listen to those influencers you mentioned. I got tired of them long ago.

LINCOLN LOVER's avatar

This cannot be true. When have we ever known the truth of an assassination, except in Lincoln's case?? Try never!! Without people knowing any history at all, it is easy to deceive them into believing any narrative at all, even tho we all know they are consummate liars at every turn. The world is controlled by evil entities and they know how to deal with anyone who will not go along to get along. I read lots of history and the controlling powers use their "force" to get exactly the outcomes they desire. Because none of this makes any sense either.

Tim Pallies's avatar

Given all that we do know, it seems just as likely (or more likely) that we don't know the whole story about Lincoln.

LINCOLN LOVER's avatar

We do know the entire story on Lincoln, as it was thoroughly chronicled in books by people who were around back then, who knew the history and events which targeted Lincoln etc. It was also rather common knowledge to know the perpetrators back then as they had been in the scheme of things for a long time. Our nation was first settled by those escaping their persecutions and much was set up to keep them out of our country, tho to no avail. But you have to read only the period history/books. All others tend to be compromised by liberal thought or infiltration.

nancylee's avatar

a little something you might enjoy from the inimitable Dave McGowen

why everything you now about lincolns murder is wrong

https://centerforaninformedamerica.com/lincoln/

Donna in MO's avatar

Wow, I loved his Laurel Canyon book and had no idea he wrote others. Thanks for sharing!

nancylee's avatar

ck out his archives now run by his daughter, rip laughing in heaven dave, wagging the moondoggie is laugh out loud funny all the way thru and the boston marathon one is mind boggling.

Tonee norman's avatar

I read the Laurel Canyon book years ago and it was jaw dropping interesting. Talk about connecting dots!

Tonee norman's avatar

I really look forward to reading this! Thank you.

Laura Cornwell's avatar

The one sure thing that could convince nearly everyone— the ballistic evidence— is the one missing piece. It doesn’t seem like that would be rocket science but apparently, for some reason not yet explained they “can’t” match the gun to the shot. Seeing a guy lying prone on a roof shooting a weapon certainly seems like that boy was trying to kill Charlie, but how many people, just normal, off the street folks, could pull off a shot like that the first and only shot?

Having shot on a team in college I can assure y’all that the adrenaline of the moment plays a huge part in accuracy. That’s why the cops usually take many shots to put down a subject and they’re very accustomed to that kind of pressure. So this guy killing on a first shot in his short life? I dunno…

Of course, I’d also like to see an independent wound analysis from a forensic specialist NOT attached to, oh, say the CIA or FBI.

Really, after the debacle over the suicide (snide remark) of Epstein, I’m in the “if their mouths are moving, the government is lying” camp.

Jenna McCarthy's avatar

Obviously, same!

Bill Rice, Jr.'s avatar

One of my New Abnormal Maxims: “Never trust the experts.”

Erika's avatar

The ballistics makes sense. It’s not always possible to match bullet fragments either the weapon that fired them. The fragments get too small, are deformed from impact, or any number of reasons. That’s the nature of forensics—it’s all scientific certainty until they’re not. Life doesn’t function like the CSI shows indicate. There’s a whole lot more uncertainty and even different opinions than most people think.

FTR I was a Forensic Biologist for the state police for 10 years.

Laura Cornwell's avatar

It’s hard to believe they can’t even do a materials match. So even if you’re correct, and I have no reason to believe you aren’t, if you can’t match the projectile to that weapon, how could a case be made that that was the weapon that shot Charlie. Reasonable doubt rears its ugly head.

Erika's avatar

The way I understand it is that the weapon cannot be confirmed *or* denied to be a match. Most weapons of the same manufacturer have similar ‘markings’ inside the barrel. So a whole run of this weapon would have similar, but not exact characteristic markings. With the small fragments *some* of the markings might be able to be identified, but if there’s not enough of a fragment to identify, no match can be concluded *or* excluded. Weapons from another factory or after enough changes are made to the tooling *can* often be excluded. So the firearms evidence isn’t a simple ‘nope, it doesn’t match’, it’s a ‘based on what we can identify neither a match or an exclusion can be made’. Larger or less deformed fragments can help ‘match’ with more certainty, but in real cases, unlike tv or books, you’re limited by the evidence you receive. Forensic analysis are also limited by the analysts’ requirement to be unbiased and not extrapolate anything beyond the facts of what the evidence presents. We’re trained that it’s better to say in on lustige than to exaggerate and say ‘it’s a match’. Sometimes something a small as a single missing identifier/marking can be enough to go from this looks like a match’ to ‘inconclusive’. For instance in DNA analysis 15 matching alleles/markers out of 16, even if that 16th one is just missing for whatever reason will reduce the certainty by a LOT, so a ‘sure thing’ becomes ‘inconclusive’. I don’t know the number of ‘matching points’ for firearms analysts at the FBI, but a small deformed fragment will only have a limited number of space to display the markings. You can’t make up what’s not there and if it’s not there you can exclude or conclude a specific weapon. This is where a relative of the ‘innocent until proven guilty’ rests in forensics, ‘inconclusive until I have all the required characteristics’.

Think of it kind of like siblings that all look fairly similar. If all of them have dark brown hair & dark brown eyes and stand around 5’11 and are all male, without more specific identifiers, the whole sibling group can’t be excluded, but neither can they be conclusively identified. Add one more identifier, say a scar on their forehead, and suddenly you can include/exclude with more certainty.

Jefff G.'s avatar

I'm 74 and have been a PI for the last 30 years. I hold a Federal Firearms License and have been shooting since I was about 10 years old. Three things stand out to me; 1) unless those in the courtroom saw a different video than the ones I've watched at least a dozen times, there's no way a positive ID of Robinson (beyond a reasonable doubt) could be made. With the publicly available video I couldn't ID my best friend 2) A 30-06 round, depending on grain (weight) travels between 2700 and 3000 feet per second. It is designed for big game and a one shot kill. Kirk got hit in the neck and should have either (a) passed through and killed/injured whoever was behind him, or (b) left an exit wound the size of a potato. What it would not do is stay in his body. That is just not possible. 3) The crime scene was literally destroyed within 10 days of the event by removing approximately 10" of dirt to allow for paver base (crushed sand/stone) to stabilize and secure the new pavers replacing the crime scene. What was the rush? Makes no sense other than to disrupt and contaminate the scene, thus rendering any forensic investigation impossible. So the question is, as always, who benefits? Who would have the tools/power to pull off the assassination and successfully deflect? As for Patel and Bongino, it appears that you cannot collect a Federal check and maintain integrity at the same time...a Law of the Universe....one or the other.

Jenna McCarthy's avatar

LITERALLY ALL OF THIS. Why aren't these "truthers" asking about ANY OF THIS? It's just "open and shut, move along, peasants." NOT. BUYING. IT. Appreciate your expert opinion!

Dr. Molly Rutherford's avatar

soft point hunting ammunition known not to exit if hits bone. Bleeding didn't kill Charlie. He very clearly "postured" right after he was hit...a spinal injury.

Jefff G.'s avatar

Soft point ammo will fragment if hitting a large/thick bone resulting in a a smaller exit wound(s) simply because the velocity and mass can't be fully absorbed by a relatively small bone like a spine. I'm not disputing a possible hit to the spine.

Skeptical Actuary's avatar

They didn't see a DIFFERENT video, but they saw a much higher resolution version of it. Think original WHCA shooting video vs the 4K version.

Mike Lee's avatar

Combo unsure. Now I'm more confused than ever. My lense is this; these "influencers" go wherever the indignation/clicks/money is.

May's avatar

Good point.. and some of the more famous ones get threatened and blackmailed too. That I KNOW

Don's avatar

This whole business is flabbergasting - sounds like someone wants very badly to protect the actual shooter by shutting down all investigations.

Tonee norman's avatar

I’m guessing the “actual shooter “ doesn’t need protection. More likely,the storyline needs protecting…again,just going by gut feelings…

nancylee's avatar

hahahahaha um how very discerning of you. and that is of course what is actually happening

Judith's avatar

What I noticed a long time ago on social media was that little of it seemed to be about trust and truth. Rather, it’s about “stirring it up”. Clicks, likes, engagement. The nature of the monetization keeping the story going. I call them the “screamers”. I honestly don’t look at any of them. TY Jenna for doing it for me.

Armor of Light's avatar

The JFK bullet analogy above is the best explanation of why people flip flop. The message that, “we will kill you, your family, anyone you love, anytime, anywhere and no one will suspect a thing, get caught or even be questioned” is very powerful. Who has the ability to take people out like that….think hard… Kirk’s assassination was maybe a little reminder to, you know who, to play or crochet….next thing you know we are in a war with Iran. Who would want that???? Things that make you go hummmmm…..

LINCOLN LOVER's avatar

After lots and lots of reading history I can say that the world used to know the answer to your query, but today the world does not think about anything like history to get a grip on why we are in this position! These devils killed Lincoln and JFK,RFK and they do exactly whatever they want in regards to leaders, wars etc. Been going on for 500years!!! Impossible you say!??? No , very possible and in fact, they try to erase their history but it has been saved by some who know! After they killed Lincoln they definitely went underground very deeply. Not many know anymore bc people just do not value history as an important essential tool for living life w/o being deceived.

Armor of Light's avatar

Lincoln Lover, You speak a great truth. That’s why reading and education are so compromised. Sadly history is recorded by the victors, and erased by the overlords, so there are truths that will never be known. The evil that is controlling the directives now are right in front of us but we are too blind and stupid to see them. They are raising their snake like heads higher and higher each day. The taxation system makes us their slaves and provides the money for their folly. It is the money and power they seek. If we, the people can actually control our own assets, then we, the people can not be controlled.

Infanttyron3's avatar

Before dipping the dates in dark chocolate and rolling in crushed pistachios and sprinkling with flaked sea salt, why not wrap them in not-overly-crisp Latin American tocineta (it's bacon, but a bit leaner) and create keto-dates?

Jenna McCarthy's avatar

For some reason the peanut butter/bacon combo grosses me out... but I also do a date stuffed with pepper jack cheese, wrapped in bacon and broiled, and then drizzled with balsamic glaze and OMG. That is all. ;)

(Note: for either of these recipes, you HAVE to use medjool dates with pits and take the pits out yourself. Pitted dates are too hard and dry.)

Infanttyron3's avatar

About four decades ago, my late wife-to-be introduced me to the magic of bacon-wrapped & broiled dates.

The ultimate bring-it-to-a-pot-luck-with-no-chance-of-leftovers dish.

No doubt in my mind that it was a food-magic technology handed down from her grandmother, who might have been one of a committee of kitchen magicians who authored the original Bene Gesserit Cookbook.

The label on the spice jar just read "Cinnamon", but yeah...folded space.

Tim Pallies's avatar

My only concern with this is the "leaner" part. 🤣

Infanttyron3's avatar

It's almost always at least a bit leaner, sometimes substantially leaner. Often the fat is only on one edge, making it easy to trim off, if that's what works for the dish.

Of course, any trimmed fat gets saved and used later. :-)

Rosemary B's avatar

thanks for that. sounds a bit better.

Juju's avatar
Jul 13Edited

I actually made the Keto ones last Christmas. Sort of tasty - I do love sweet and salt together, it’s my favorite, but it wasn’t quite the same effect as that.

Since Jenna’s version sounds delicious too I take comfort in knowing that I can use my sugar-free almond butter that I sweeten/salten myself, and my sugar-free chocolate that I make. I’d skip the pistachios and just use my flakey sea salt alone. Definitely gonna try this next time. It may have more carbs than the stricter Keto version but it will still be lower carb.

FLGenX's avatar

Do you ship to Florida? 😃

hrsesq's avatar

I have been watching Alex Jones who had an attorney on who goes by the name Lionel. This Attorney has a YouTube channel, Lionel Nation. Anyone who thinks what Jack Posobeic and Benny Johnson, etc. are putting out about this case needs to watch this Attorney. I’m sure you can find the clip of his talk on Rumble under The Alex Jones Show. You can also watch him on YouTube. Although he looks a little crazy, he makes the case that they can’t tie the gun to this case, and if they can’t tie the gun, the case is over. I believe Lionel either is or was a criminal defense lawyer. I am also an attorney, but not in criminal law. Although he comes across as a little crazed, he makes all the sense in the world. Shame on the influencers who have caved into something that isn’t true, because if they put Tyler Robinson to death, those influencers will also have his blood on their hands.

LINCOLN LOVER's avatar

This is the typical slop put forward in order to keep all eyes off the real perpetrators. What do we really know about 9/11, about JFK, RFK, JFK Jr., and the list goes on and on and on. Digging into history is the only way to see the scope and connect the dots of what we are seeing in the world today. The world has always been evil and evil controls the people and they don't even know it, but now, they are close to changing the entire world into their dream/nightmare of global gov't etc. So I suspect the court will find Robinson guilty so everyone can get back to the business of taking the world for the Antichrist and his demons.

Tonee norman's avatar

“If the glove don’t fit,you must acquit “…

Doug's avatar

I've always enjoyed Lionel. He's often humorous, either intentionally or unintentionally, but there's an intelligence behind the "little crazy" that I find engaging.

Vee's avatar

Crystal clear footage of the kill shot but grainy unrecognizable footage of the supposed perpetrator. Does this remind any one else of the supposed plane that flew onto the Pentagon on 9/11?