I am so sorry about your friend's wife. She is one of far too many casualties of the greed and power plays behind our pharmaceutical industry, bureaucracies, medical establishment, and certain very wealthy individuals. (I have probably missed a group) It has been a war without a wall mourning the fallen. I totally understand your fear of…
I am so sorry about your friend's wife. She is one of far too many casualties of the greed and power plays behind our pharmaceutical industry, bureaucracies, medical establishment, and certain very wealthy individuals. (I have probably missed a group) It has been a war without a wall mourning the fallen. I totally understand your fear of hospitals, and I am a former critical care nurse. We almost lost my (healthy, active) youngest brother to what a hospital did to him in Aug/Sept 2021. So when my husband had stroke symptoms the following February, I was very afraid. As I drove him there (EMS would have taken him to another hospital I REALLY didn't trust), I prayed out loud that the hospital wouldn't kill my husband.(And dealt with the comic relief of an ADHD son who called for me to PLEEEASE bring his safety goggles for Organic Chemistry!! 🙄)
With COVID, I saw multiple problems with the medical system. (Rough, and not exhaustive)
1) Because Big Pharma needed to get their EUA vaccines approved, there couldn't be any alternative treatments available. So, instead of making potential early treatment options available, they suppressed or maligned all information about safe and inexpensive drugs like Ivermectin. (Early treatment is the OPTIMAL way to survive an infectious disease!)
2) Over recent years, medicine has tried to standardize treatment protocols, using what research shows works best. For people having a stroke, that's a pretty good thing. They can go into just about any good sized hospital in the U.S., and get their stroke (or heart attack) handled appropriately. (It affects a hospital's accreditation and ratings if they DON'T follow these protocols, so they take them seriously) However, they used that "treatment protocol" thinking on COVID - without the years of research backing it up. I don't know everything that was involved in the treatment protocol, but I do know that Remdesivir was part of it. Which is another EUA (experimental) drug. It was earlier used in a research trial with Ebola...which was stopped, because it killed more than it helped. The WHO said not to use it. But the U.S. used it anyway. ($$$ kickbacks for the hospital) Remdesivir causes kidney failure, too. So our U.S. hospital systems used pretty standard COVID drug protocols which had poor success rates, especially since they told people to stay home (get sicker) and just take Tylenol until they had difficulty breathing. THEN, they were to come to the hospital, receive toxic Remdesivir, and other drugs that weren't very helpful. In my youngest brother's situation, where it was pretty certain he had a good chance of dying - the doctors repeatedly refused to try anything else outside of their protocol. Unlike in the past, when physicians would acknowledge when something wasn't working - they would consider trying something different.
3) Hospitals now primarily use "Hospitalists:" physicians, PA's, and Nurse Practitioners who are employees of the hospital. (This was in place prior to COVID) So the people caring for the patients don't answer to the patients; they answer to the hospital. There is generally no previous long term patient/doctor relationship, and consequently little reason for these hospital employees to risk their jobs to question the effectiveness of COVID medical protocols for patients they barely know. Also little reason to try drugs the families are begging them to try.
4) Hospitals denied access to family/advocates while the physicians did their "thing." My brother was convinced to take some morphine (morphine decreases the ability to breathe) so he could get "some rest." Within 6 or so hours, his oxygenation was down, and they called his wife, because he was going to die if he didn't get on the ventilator. He was on the ventilator and sedated for almost a month. A hospice referral was made during that time.
5) Government incentives along with pharmaceutical kickbacks only encouraged the misbehavior of our hospital systems. Doctors were (financially) encouraged to prescribe toxic drugs like Remdesivir. Patients weren't moneymakers if they didn't have COVID, and after 13 days, a COVID patient was no longer profitable... unless they were on a ventilator. (This is from my brother's research) And so on. My husband was admitted to the ER Feb 2022 for a stroke three weeks after his positive COVID test. It was in his medical records, but they did a COVID test anyway. Of course, he tested positive, but he didn't have COVID...he had recovered and was asymptomatic. They knew it, and didn't treat him for COVID - but they put him in COVID isolation anyway. For his entire 4-5 day stay. And I wasn't allowed to visit. Good news: They treated his stroke (and high blood pressure) wonderfully. And he didn't die. But the hospital took advantage of the situation, and it's reason # 109,548 - why I am completely fed up with our current medical establishment.
In 2020, I already knew our medical establishment wasn't going to save me from dying from COVID, so I spent many hours researching. (I have multiple comorbidities) That's how I came across FLCCC. Through the site, I found a nearby telemedicine Nurse Practitioner who prescribed Ivermectin in 2021 (plus additional supplements), which kept me out of the hospital. My husband and I passed her contact info to family all over - even to his 86 y.o. mother and brother in Oregon. Since my youngest brother's hospital ordeal in 2021, no family member has required hospitalization for COVID. My hope is that new health care options arise from the COVID debacle and our current travesty of a "health care" system. I think FLCCC has made a good start. I also hope that when you and your family need more complex medical care - that it is medical care you can truly trust. It appears that until then, Jenna provided some helpful information/paperwork to protect you. I wish you the best.
I was a hospitalist / laborist , who didn’t comply … the hospital hired an internal medicine team who followed their protocol. Yes I was eventually fired ( although terminated sounds better ) 10,000 dineros out of my pocket to find out by some asshat that it’s an at will contract so they deep 6 you on a whim ,when administration finds out your not a “ team” player of theirs . Hell isn’t hot enough and guess what the devil never sleeps . Pray for one another and stand in agreement 🙏⚔️🙏
I love this and I applaud you. I cannot imagine how excruciating that decision must’ve been. Your sacrifice means everything, and you are absolutely on the right side of this shit show. You should be proud.😊👏
Thanks , it’s a very vile and evil time we are living in . Proud no , disgusted yes . Lots of death and destruction. Very hard to pray for our enemies..
Good for you for standing on your principles, but sorry for the result. I didn't forsee these particular negatives when they began putting hospitalists in place. Yes, I was upset that I wouldn't have access to my pulmonologist (of 23 years at this point), if I ended up in the ICU. That still upsets me. But this new paradigm of hospitalists takes away from what has at times has been called the "art of medicine," when patients don't always respond to algorithms or protocols, because every patient is an individual. And bell curves have people at both ends who don't fit within the norms. So, now if a hospital employee/practitioner were to go outside the protocol - to address a "zebra," or a patient that's not responding to the "standard treatment" will the hospital "terminate" them also?
I don't want to paint all hospitalists as drones unwilling to step out of line. (Obviously you weren't!) I am tremendously grateful to an ER PA (IDK if he was a hospitalist or not), who told one of my sons last summer (at his 2nd ER visit) to not accept his "obvious" diagnosis. The PA asked, "Have you been worked up for this?" (No) After taking time to talk with my (rather stubborn) son, my son did pursue a work-up, and it wasn't the obvious diagnosis. He is currently pursuing treatment.
I hope you find a position that is worthy of your values.
I hope your son will be ok . 🙏. I work part time in a colleague’s office and continue to watch the side effects and tell almost each patient not another jab . Interestingly most went to a pharmacy to be jabbed BUT at the insistence of their doctors or work made them . It’s those pediatricians who continue to jab because those kids are defenseless and parents are being shamed terribly and told not to come back to the practice if not jabbed . So I found a NP in a family doc office who will see peds unjabbed.
You completely nailed all the problems. It’s horrifying all the hospital stories. How did this happen in our country?
Yes I tried to find a trustworthy doctor through FLCCC when I got Covid, but there weren’t many near me. The one that was closest never returned my several calls. Our state has been revoking all the medical licenses of doctors who prescribe medications not approved by the FDA for Covid, so it’s possible they reached him. I thought we were a free country. I thought we were free to choose our own medical treatment. I thought doctors were free to choose the medicine and treatments they felt were best for their patients. When did we lose our freedom???
I did get a hold of a telemedicine doctor but she scammed me. She only submitted the measly 3mg ivermectin tablets for 4 days, so it wasn’t enough to get even two days dose. I had to take 10 of them to get one day’s dose. When I contacted her back to get more she said only a compound pharmacy could make higher dosing, (which she failed to reveal first call,) and if I wanted her to do another script to one of them i had to pay for her services again only the price doubled. How convenient for her. It was a really disappointing experience.
Finally I just called a compound pharmacy and asked if they could refer me to anyone that prescribes for the FLCCC protocols and they connected me to an RN that helped with scripts, but I didn’t know what I didn’t know and didn’t ask for enough days. That’s why I need a doctor that I can trust is staying on top of all this, even better than me. I need that guidance and collaboration.
I may have already shared this before so apologies if it is redundant, but I buy ivermectin in massive quantities from buyivermectinforhumans.us. It sounds super sketchy and when you go to check out you get some random PayPal dudes name, but they always come and I order all sorts of stuff from there. It is actually cheaper than walking across the border in Mexico to buy it over the counter. It comes hermetically sealed with the ivermectin stamp and I have taken it multiple times. It does take a few weeks to arrive because it is coming directly from India but I like having a stockpile. I give it out like candy!🤣🙋♀️🤷♀️
Thank you! Again! You’re a goldmine find in this Substack, I swear. Compassion, laughter, knowledge, helpful and instantaneous resources, and well-deserved sarcasm dished out to the countless A*holes and criminals lying to us and stealing our freedoms.
I did find a company in India that I ordered from last month but of course it took a few weeks to arrive and I wasn’t sick anymore. But at least I have 30 12mg tablets and some HCQ in my cabinet now. They weren’t as expensive as other sites I saw.
However, the link you gave above is the first time I saw that particular one and their prices aren’t too bad either. Plus they offer Azithromycin too so that’s a bonus! I’m going to place an order through them to stock up. I just hope we still have these options two years from now because I don’t think the shelf life is longer than that??
Thank you for those kind words! I live for this and frankly for comments like yours.😊 the “shelflife“ of medicine is another lie we have been fed… Yes it will deteriorate over time, but it’s not like it will go bad in January 2026… It might be slightly less efficacious but still worth having and stockpiling… They put those expiration dates so that people will throw them out and buy more.🙄
I can't "like" your comment. You have really had a rough time! And when you're sick with COVID is the worst time for that to happen! Although I am a nurse, I knew nothing about Ivermectin prescribing, and a previous NP (referred by a friend) had prescribed a lower dosage than FLCCC recommended- but she tailored the supplements to my health issues, so she really WAS helpful. I couldn't reach her when I (and hubby) actually got sick with COVID, so when hubby did telemedicine with the second NP (found through FLCCC), I made an appointment too, and got more Ivermectin. But it was good to have it on hand from Day#1 - from the first NP.
If you need to do any future searches, this is what I did: I checked for the practitioner's website, if they had a physical location and were already seeing patients. I looked for reviews and credentials. Also look for some kind of agreement when you sign up, as for what services are agreed to, and for what price. You have probably already learned this from experience. I think some people just saw an opportunity to make money and got greedy.
I am so sorry about your friend's wife. She is one of far too many casualties of the greed and power plays behind our pharmaceutical industry, bureaucracies, medical establishment, and certain very wealthy individuals. (I have probably missed a group) It has been a war without a wall mourning the fallen. I totally understand your fear of hospitals, and I am a former critical care nurse. We almost lost my (healthy, active) youngest brother to what a hospital did to him in Aug/Sept 2021. So when my husband had stroke symptoms the following February, I was very afraid. As I drove him there (EMS would have taken him to another hospital I REALLY didn't trust), I prayed out loud that the hospital wouldn't kill my husband.(And dealt with the comic relief of an ADHD son who called for me to PLEEEASE bring his safety goggles for Organic Chemistry!! 🙄)
With COVID, I saw multiple problems with the medical system. (Rough, and not exhaustive)
1) Because Big Pharma needed to get their EUA vaccines approved, there couldn't be any alternative treatments available. So, instead of making potential early treatment options available, they suppressed or maligned all information about safe and inexpensive drugs like Ivermectin. (Early treatment is the OPTIMAL way to survive an infectious disease!)
2) Over recent years, medicine has tried to standardize treatment protocols, using what research shows works best. For people having a stroke, that's a pretty good thing. They can go into just about any good sized hospital in the U.S., and get their stroke (or heart attack) handled appropriately. (It affects a hospital's accreditation and ratings if they DON'T follow these protocols, so they take them seriously) However, they used that "treatment protocol" thinking on COVID - without the years of research backing it up. I don't know everything that was involved in the treatment protocol, but I do know that Remdesivir was part of it. Which is another EUA (experimental) drug. It was earlier used in a research trial with Ebola...which was stopped, because it killed more than it helped. The WHO said not to use it. But the U.S. used it anyway. ($$$ kickbacks for the hospital) Remdesivir causes kidney failure, too. So our U.S. hospital systems used pretty standard COVID drug protocols which had poor success rates, especially since they told people to stay home (get sicker) and just take Tylenol until they had difficulty breathing. THEN, they were to come to the hospital, receive toxic Remdesivir, and other drugs that weren't very helpful. In my youngest brother's situation, where it was pretty certain he had a good chance of dying - the doctors repeatedly refused to try anything else outside of their protocol. Unlike in the past, when physicians would acknowledge when something wasn't working - they would consider trying something different.
3) Hospitals now primarily use "Hospitalists:" physicians, PA's, and Nurse Practitioners who are employees of the hospital. (This was in place prior to COVID) So the people caring for the patients don't answer to the patients; they answer to the hospital. There is generally no previous long term patient/doctor relationship, and consequently little reason for these hospital employees to risk their jobs to question the effectiveness of COVID medical protocols for patients they barely know. Also little reason to try drugs the families are begging them to try.
4) Hospitals denied access to family/advocates while the physicians did their "thing." My brother was convinced to take some morphine (morphine decreases the ability to breathe) so he could get "some rest." Within 6 or so hours, his oxygenation was down, and they called his wife, because he was going to die if he didn't get on the ventilator. He was on the ventilator and sedated for almost a month. A hospice referral was made during that time.
5) Government incentives along with pharmaceutical kickbacks only encouraged the misbehavior of our hospital systems. Doctors were (financially) encouraged to prescribe toxic drugs like Remdesivir. Patients weren't moneymakers if they didn't have COVID, and after 13 days, a COVID patient was no longer profitable... unless they were on a ventilator. (This is from my brother's research) And so on. My husband was admitted to the ER Feb 2022 for a stroke three weeks after his positive COVID test. It was in his medical records, but they did a COVID test anyway. Of course, he tested positive, but he didn't have COVID...he had recovered and was asymptomatic. They knew it, and didn't treat him for COVID - but they put him in COVID isolation anyway. For his entire 4-5 day stay. And I wasn't allowed to visit. Good news: They treated his stroke (and high blood pressure) wonderfully. And he didn't die. But the hospital took advantage of the situation, and it's reason # 109,548 - why I am completely fed up with our current medical establishment.
In 2020, I already knew our medical establishment wasn't going to save me from dying from COVID, so I spent many hours researching. (I have multiple comorbidities) That's how I came across FLCCC. Through the site, I found a nearby telemedicine Nurse Practitioner who prescribed Ivermectin in 2021 (plus additional supplements), which kept me out of the hospital. My husband and I passed her contact info to family all over - even to his 86 y.o. mother and brother in Oregon. Since my youngest brother's hospital ordeal in 2021, no family member has required hospitalization for COVID. My hope is that new health care options arise from the COVID debacle and our current travesty of a "health care" system. I think FLCCC has made a good start. I also hope that when you and your family need more complex medical care - that it is medical care you can truly trust. It appears that until then, Jenna provided some helpful information/paperwork to protect you. I wish you the best.
I was a hospitalist / laborist , who didn’t comply … the hospital hired an internal medicine team who followed their protocol. Yes I was eventually fired ( although terminated sounds better ) 10,000 dineros out of my pocket to find out by some asshat that it’s an at will contract so they deep 6 you on a whim ,when administration finds out your not a “ team” player of theirs . Hell isn’t hot enough and guess what the devil never sleeps . Pray for one another and stand in agreement 🙏⚔️🙏
I love this and I applaud you. I cannot imagine how excruciating that decision must’ve been. Your sacrifice means everything, and you are absolutely on the right side of this shit show. You should be proud.😊👏
Thanks , it’s a very vile and evil time we are living in . Proud no , disgusted yes . Lots of death and destruction. Very hard to pray for our enemies..
Good for you for standing on your principles, but sorry for the result. I didn't forsee these particular negatives when they began putting hospitalists in place. Yes, I was upset that I wouldn't have access to my pulmonologist (of 23 years at this point), if I ended up in the ICU. That still upsets me. But this new paradigm of hospitalists takes away from what has at times has been called the "art of medicine," when patients don't always respond to algorithms or protocols, because every patient is an individual. And bell curves have people at both ends who don't fit within the norms. So, now if a hospital employee/practitioner were to go outside the protocol - to address a "zebra," or a patient that's not responding to the "standard treatment" will the hospital "terminate" them also?
I don't want to paint all hospitalists as drones unwilling to step out of line. (Obviously you weren't!) I am tremendously grateful to an ER PA (IDK if he was a hospitalist or not), who told one of my sons last summer (at his 2nd ER visit) to not accept his "obvious" diagnosis. The PA asked, "Have you been worked up for this?" (No) After taking time to talk with my (rather stubborn) son, my son did pursue a work-up, and it wasn't the obvious diagnosis. He is currently pursuing treatment.
I hope you find a position that is worthy of your values.
I hope your son will be ok . 🙏. I work part time in a colleague’s office and continue to watch the side effects and tell almost each patient not another jab . Interestingly most went to a pharmacy to be jabbed BUT at the insistence of their doctors or work made them . It’s those pediatricians who continue to jab because those kids are defenseless and parents are being shamed terribly and told not to come back to the practice if not jabbed . So I found a NP in a family doc office who will see peds unjabbed.
You completely nailed all the problems. It’s horrifying all the hospital stories. How did this happen in our country?
Yes I tried to find a trustworthy doctor through FLCCC when I got Covid, but there weren’t many near me. The one that was closest never returned my several calls. Our state has been revoking all the medical licenses of doctors who prescribe medications not approved by the FDA for Covid, so it’s possible they reached him. I thought we were a free country. I thought we were free to choose our own medical treatment. I thought doctors were free to choose the medicine and treatments they felt were best for their patients. When did we lose our freedom???
I did get a hold of a telemedicine doctor but she scammed me. She only submitted the measly 3mg ivermectin tablets for 4 days, so it wasn’t enough to get even two days dose. I had to take 10 of them to get one day’s dose. When I contacted her back to get more she said only a compound pharmacy could make higher dosing, (which she failed to reveal first call,) and if I wanted her to do another script to one of them i had to pay for her services again only the price doubled. How convenient for her. It was a really disappointing experience.
Finally I just called a compound pharmacy and asked if they could refer me to anyone that prescribes for the FLCCC protocols and they connected me to an RN that helped with scripts, but I didn’t know what I didn’t know and didn’t ask for enough days. That’s why I need a doctor that I can trust is staying on top of all this, even better than me. I need that guidance and collaboration.
I may have already shared this before so apologies if it is redundant, but I buy ivermectin in massive quantities from buyivermectinforhumans.us. It sounds super sketchy and when you go to check out you get some random PayPal dudes name, but they always come and I order all sorts of stuff from there. It is actually cheaper than walking across the border in Mexico to buy it over the counter. It comes hermetically sealed with the ivermectin stamp and I have taken it multiple times. It does take a few weeks to arrive because it is coming directly from India but I like having a stockpile. I give it out like candy!🤣🙋♀️🤷♀️
Thank you! Again! You’re a goldmine find in this Substack, I swear. Compassion, laughter, knowledge, helpful and instantaneous resources, and well-deserved sarcasm dished out to the countless A*holes and criminals lying to us and stealing our freedoms.
I did find a company in India that I ordered from last month but of course it took a few weeks to arrive and I wasn’t sick anymore. But at least I have 30 12mg tablets and some HCQ in my cabinet now. They weren’t as expensive as other sites I saw.
However, the link you gave above is the first time I saw that particular one and their prices aren’t too bad either. Plus they offer Azithromycin too so that’s a bonus! I’m going to place an order through them to stock up. I just hope we still have these options two years from now because I don’t think the shelf life is longer than that??
Thank you for those kind words! I live for this and frankly for comments like yours.😊 the “shelflife“ of medicine is another lie we have been fed… Yes it will deteriorate over time, but it’s not like it will go bad in January 2026… It might be slightly less efficacious but still worth having and stockpiling… They put those expiration dates so that people will throw them out and buy more.🙄
I can't "like" your comment. You have really had a rough time! And when you're sick with COVID is the worst time for that to happen! Although I am a nurse, I knew nothing about Ivermectin prescribing, and a previous NP (referred by a friend) had prescribed a lower dosage than FLCCC recommended- but she tailored the supplements to my health issues, so she really WAS helpful. I couldn't reach her when I (and hubby) actually got sick with COVID, so when hubby did telemedicine with the second NP (found through FLCCC), I made an appointment too, and got more Ivermectin. But it was good to have it on hand from Day#1 - from the first NP.
If you need to do any future searches, this is what I did: I checked for the practitioner's website, if they had a physical location and were already seeing patients. I looked for reviews and credentials. Also look for some kind of agreement when you sign up, as for what services are agreed to, and for what price. You have probably already learned this from experience. I think some people just saw an opportunity to make money and got greedy.