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Laura Kasner's avatar

“Brain death” doesn’t exist.

It was another nugget of truth I learned in the last 4 years that has shaken me to my core.

Remember the urban legend about people awakening in their hotel bathroom tubs full of ice and noticing they’d had some type of surgery?

Me thinks it isn’t an urban legend.

PS - a friend once told me, not everything is a conspiracy Laura”. I think that kind of thinking is rather naive. I’m pretty sure EVERYTHING is a conspiracy.

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Mindy's avatar

Yep. People have recovered from brain death. I wonder if the reason recovery from brain death is so rare is that most of those with the condition were butchered for their organs before they had achance to recover? When I learned that they butcher people alive (not using the sketchy medical definitions for "death") for organ harvesting, I was done supporting this type of organ donation. If a living, coherent person wants to donate a kidney or other organ/partial organ that they can live without, I do support that. My dad's organs were rejected after he died from a heart-attack because circulation to the organs had ceased for too long. It turns out, circulation really can't cease for more than a couple of minutes before the organs become useless.

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Tonee norman's avatar

Yes! I will never put that on my drivers license. I have 0 trust in the “system “.

I have a friend who is a life long diabetic who is now on dialysis. He has a friend, these are men in their 70s) who only a few years ago,decided his lifelong dream was to become a woman. He’s pretty far along in the process,with only ONE final step to go. His family ( wife and kids) have disowned him and he is extremely lonely. When my diabetic friend told him he needed a kidney,this lonely person is giving him one… my diabetic friend does not qualify for the “list” unless someone specifically gives one up,for him…then,the donors kidney goes into the “pool” and my friend is given a kidney that is a match,from that pool..

What bothers me is it seems the donor really wants someone to need him( her?)and,the health of my diabetic friend is not good enough for him to be a recipient through the “regular system “…sooo,IDK if either of them can thrive/ survive this…but,I really hope for the best outcome and keep my feelings to myself! Except for here,of course.

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Jenna McCarthy's avatar

Oof! How sad and sweet and tragic all at the same time. Thanks for sharing. XO

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Tonee norman's avatar

Yes. That about sums it up.

Thank you.

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Valerie's avatar

Everything about that story is heartbreaking.

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Laura Kasner's avatar

I agree Valerie

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Tonee norman's avatar

I,too,tend to feel more sad than hopeful,but,my prayers are for the best possible outcome…

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Mindy's avatar

I hope your diabetic friend and his friend who is donating recover and have many more years.

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Tonee norman's avatar

Thank you very much!

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Overtheblues's avatar

Maybe they are planning to get married?

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Ree T.'s avatar

My 17 year old son is on hemodialysis and has been for 10 years (since he was turning 7). He is a difficult match because of his antibody levels but he, too, is in the paired donation pool. A kind woman from our church offered to be his donor. My husband and I would happily give our son a kidney but we are not the right blood type (our son is adopted) and we are also now too old. They do not take accept kidneys from anyone over 50 (they said maybe up to 55 if the person is picture perfect healthy). I am surprised they would even consider a 70 year old, but maybe adult protocols are different.

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Tonee norman's avatar

I can’t imagine how difficult that has been. I’m grateful your son has been maintained,so far,well. What a blessing from the kind woman!

Apparently,this potential donor has already had the necessary testing to allow this procedure. I’m unclear if my diabetic friend has cleared those hurdles. …it all seems a bit “off”, to me,and,I’m not going to put myself into their business any more then I’m told..my friend has ALWAYS been “ “just about to hit the big score “, type of person ( and,never has)and a lot of this could be his wishful thinking or something else…

Sending a prayer for your family!

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Ree T.'s avatar

That totally makes sense! I know people like that as well. I appreciate your prayers and I will be praying for a good outcome for your friend!

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Donna O's avatar

I hate it when children have to deal with such terrible illness.

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Donna O's avatar

I agree with the others that this is sad all around. And I’m surprised the friends kidney would qualify for transplant. If he just has one final step, that means he’s been on some powerful drugs that have dangerous side effects for some time now.

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Tonee norman's avatar

I just saw my friend today,and,questioned him again. He said his donor has passed all the tests and ready to go in October. Now,i guess it’s possible that person could be lying to my friend. I didn’t ask how he KNOWS his friend is cleared. But,now that you mention it, I could probably ask him HOW this is confirmed. I know my friend has not had the testing necessary,but,as of today,he tells me his kidneys are at 10% andthe doctors have added a second bag of liquid ,a day to his protocol.🤷🏻‍♀️

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Donna O's avatar

Oh goodness! Your friend is really sick! Praying he can endure the surgery and have some good years.

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Tonee norman's avatar

Yes.

Thank you!

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Metta's avatar

Truth.

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Dena's avatar
Jul 24Edited

AND that’s why they keep you alive. Laura’s right, brain dead is not a real thing. Made up for their purposes. Russiagate, Covid experiment, organ harvesting- all the same m.o. Convince the people using lies & coercion of what they want you to believe. Aka gaslighting.

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Penny North's avatar

Truth.

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Copernicus's avatar

Define "conspiracy."

They just throw that word around as if it means "something you think it true but is batshit crazy nobody does those sorts of things."

The Webster definition is something akin to two or more people plotting together for some purpose. While the OPO people may not be aware of their roles in the actual evil (they believe they are doing good), the whole thing is in fact, a largely immoral enterprise.

Yeah, lots of evil stuff that seems too evil to be real is, actually, quite real.

(I know you know this. 😉)

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Demonhype's avatar

Ithink the term "conspiracy theory" was coined by the CIA to auto-discredit people who had valid observations or concerns about things those in power don't want us peasants thinking about or investigating. At some point, the term seems to have shortened just to the first word only in the common usage.

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Dena's avatar

I heard that the term conspiracy theory came about due to the JFK assassination & subsequent coverup. Many weren’t buying it from the beginning.

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Laura Kasner's avatar

Indeed I do, Copernicus

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Overtheblues's avatar

These days if you don't think that way, you are a sitting duck. If I am going to die, just let me - without enriching some hospital that is a Siamese twin with a Big Pharma or Big Organ Procurement organisation first.

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Penny North's avatar

You cannot be brain dead without the whole body being dead also.

The body sends signals to the brain which processes them and sends signals back. That’s how the skin stays pink, that’s how the kidneys still empty, that’s how the fingernails still grow.

The term brain dead is synonymous with The Brain is in Survival Mode and only critical Life supporting actions are going on - in spite of the EEG.

God didn’t make mistakes.

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Copernicus's avatar

This is such a well- and clearly stated description of reality. How we and doctors have been brainwashed to see it differently is utterly despicable and horrifying.

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Laura Kasner's avatar

Amen Penny

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Dianna b's avatar

Last year due to an article in Epoc Times regarding China's organ transplant practices with the US, I promptly removed my organ donor status from my driver's license. Let's face it, after four years of the plandemic, I trust no one in the Hospital system today.

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Ree T.'s avatar

That story was insane! I remember that.

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Dena's avatar

Not easy to remove in some states.

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BluesLover's avatar

This happened to a friend in the mid 1980s AND her family was BILLED for the organ removal. Since that experience i have tried to educate ppl around me and I have made it clear to friends, family, my will that absolutely no harvesting of my organs. Additionally, my best friend's son died in 2010 & she received calls from the organ transplant ppl within hours. While she choose to donate his corneas and a few other minor "parts" the phone call was morbid, rude and demanding. Ultimately, I took the phone away from my dear friend, crying and grieving the worst pain ever...and I dealt with the rude, cold, "karen" on the phone and shut down any further HARASSMENT for his organs. I am grateful that light is being shown on this dark and morbid business that is killing people. Phew... I guess I only have a "little bit" of an opinion lol.

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I also got one of those morbid and insensitive phone calls many years ago, just two hours after my husband died very suddenly and very unexpectedly. I answered all of the questions because my husband had expressed a strong desire to be an organ donor, but it was one of the most awful experiences I’ve ever had. I can only imagine how it felt for your friend who received such a call about her son. You did the right thing when you dealt with that rude, cold caller. I will do the same if I’m ever in that situation again.

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BluesLover's avatar

I am so sorry about your husband AND that call. Gratefully, we are here to warn others. Hugs

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Someone else's avatar

Thanks!

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Sandra Knauf's avatar

I'm so sorry. The lack of empathy in the medical industrial complex . . .

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Glitterpuppy's avatar

Boy, I am sorry you had to suffer through that………

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Tim Connolly's avatar

How about we rename it the Organization Of Organ Procurement… OOPS? Unbelievable

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Meddling Kid's avatar

Office Of Organ Pilfering

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Tim Pallies's avatar

I shouldn't be laughing at that, but I am!

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TexasRed's avatar

“You don’t have to be dead to donate organs anymore” — no, no.

Organs *can’t* be and aren’t viable from a dead body. Every donated organ is taken from a living person. It has always been this way. The concept of “brain dead” was invented to manipulate the families of patients to allow this barbaric organ harvesting to be done to their loved ones. We are worth more in the sum of our parts for profit than we are recovered and discharged from the hospital.

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Unapologetically Me's avatar

Without pain relief meds in most cases. Look it up. I did.

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Dena's avatar

I became aware of this a couple of years ago. A YouTube video of a interview with a whistleblower doctor who went into quite detail. It might still be out there, don’t remember his name.

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Kathy Lux's avatar

Case in point, an infant sustained a closed traumatic brain injury and was placed in a medically induced coma, declared brain dead but one day started sucking on his bottom lip and showing signs of brain life. His father made some noise and they took him off life support and the little fella came to and is making progress as I write his. The child was far from brain dead but the ghouls were lusting after his little organs, anyway. I think that is purely evil.

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Jenna McCarthy's avatar

It really is hard to fathom that such evil exists in the world…

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llaw555's avatar

Very disheartening.

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Dena's avatar

Evil always has existed. We just have nicer names & phrases to describe evil. For example child sacrifice. Malach & Baal would be proud.

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Glitterpuppy's avatar

I hate to bring this up, but I’m sure they “ harvest” from aborted babies?

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Copernicus's avatar

And/or they believe that an imperfect life is not worth saving or living.

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Unapologetically Me's avatar

CASE IN POINT:

MAID in Canada.

"Better off Dead?"

https://youtu.be/-G_xF4dvS-U

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Annie's avatar

Thank goodness that little one survived. 🙏

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FREED0ML0VER's avatar

"The global transplant market is worth over $16 billion annually and climbing exponentially..." And everyone connected get a piece of the action except the one who makes it all possible...the donor.

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Metta's avatar

🎯~ and their grieving family . . .

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FREED0ML0VER's avatar

The grieving family gets a hospital bill.

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Metta's avatar

💯🎯

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

This is not the kind of thing you want to have a personal experience with, but in 2018, my step brother suffered a stroke. He was life-flighted to a large hospital in Erie, PA where his only child, a daughter, was told that he wouldn't make it. He was listed on his drivers license as an organ donor. They began "harvesting" (interesting word, don't you think?) his organs, one by one while he was still alive, hooked up to a ventilator to keep his heart and lungs going. We know this, because his daughter reported it to us. She was permitted to be at his bedside inbetween "harvests." She was not in the operating room. His death was actually officially reported after his last organ was removed. We all have dropped our organ donor status on our drivers licenses. Sorry to leave such a ghoulish comment, but lest anyone think this is an urban myth, I wanted to dispel any doubts.

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Jenna McCarthy's avatar

This is horrific. I'm so sorry for your family. :(

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

Scott's daughter, as you can imagine, was traumatized.

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California Girl's avatar

Better to know these situations exist so we can avoid them. What a horror! We are human - but these organ "harvestors" are ghouls.

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

They are ghouls. What kind of soul must you have to do that to another human being.

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HippoDoNoHarm's avatar

Great comments and perspectives about a topic that affects us all.

I am glad to see

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Glitterpuppy's avatar

Holy Mother of God……

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Immaculata's avatar

If organ companies come to hospitals and pay for breakfast/lunch for the whole OR team- you can bet that it’s an endeavor FOR PROFIT.

Brain death doesn’t exist- natural death does -

Another made up term by allopathic psychopathy . God help us🙏

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Vee's avatar

73% more horror but 99% more humor! Give us your organs today so we can all laugh our humanity away!

This has been going on in China for some time now with the Chinese government persecuting people in the Falun Gong movement so that they can jail, harvest and sell their organs to the wealthy Chinese, and then kill them off without the world noticing or caring.

Will there be accountability for this? Probably not. Will it end? Hopefully, but would we know? At least it makes more sense now how the hospital system so easily tortured and killed people during the scamdemic with hospital protocols. Absolutely terrifying.

On a related note of how humanity is totally screwed, check out this real life Black Mirror episode about AI "companions" for lonely people: https://youtu.be/_d08BZmdZu8

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Carol M.'s avatar

I am selfish and don’t check that box, because of this and a long ago Monty Python skit (we are here for your liver, sir. But I am still using it! Sorry, you’re on our list!) Also am forwarding this column to my daughter, to ask her to uncheck that box!😜

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Annie's avatar

Years ago I told my kids to remove the organ donor designation. It should read: organ harvesting. I didn't like how these ghouls could come in and take over when a family is trying to decide what's the right thing to do as their loved one may be dying. By agreeing to be an organ donor, you take that away from your family and let an unknown entity decide. Stupid. No one in my extended family is an organ donor.

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Juju's avatar

Same

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Judith's avatar

Time to sit for hours at the DMV to remove the organ donor choice.

FYI my aunt was under complete anesthesia for pacemaker surgery. She felt EVERYTHING.

She was unable to speak or move to let them know. Pain beyond pain and trauma from this experience. Unrelated in a way to the organ donor… but maybe not.

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Unapologetically Me's avatar

I suffered a similar ordeal during the emergency C-Section of my only child. I had received an epidural hours prior to being wheeled into the OR.

As the surgeon's scalpel sliced my belly (which I could not SEE him do, due to a blanket having been put up) I howled like a banshee, thrashed my legs and tried to get up. I screamed. STOP!!

An anesthesiologist was then summoned. He stood over me with 2 large syringes in order to "put me under" general anesthetic. I knew, somehow, that if he did, I'd float towards the light and not return.

Also knew that my son would be raised by someone undesirable.

Therefore I yelled NO! Tried not to pass out.

The anesthesiologist declared "This is barbaric" and left the OR.

This procedure continued for 30 more minutes. (I won't post more details of what occurred after this back-and-forth.)

This happened 28 years ago.

I obviously survived the ordeal as did my child however the horrific memories (PTSD) I suffer to this day, as well as the fear and distrust of doctors and hospitals, will never leave me.

By the way: This incident occurred at the same hospital which recently opened a "MAID" unit.

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/264913/euthanasia-facility-quietly-opens-at-st-paul-s-hospital-in-vancouver

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Jenna McCarthy's avatar

OMG how horrific!!! I just removed my name from the Texas registry and I'm on hold with the godforsaken DMV to figure out how I get the damned heart off my card. (I did learn that the heart doesn't suffice; they're LEGALLY BOUND to check the state registry as you could have changed your mind. So make sure your people know your wishes!!)

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Unapologetically Me's avatar

Indeed.

My people know.

They're euthanizing people willy nilly in this country & no one is questioning whether they're "on the list" for organ removal as WELL!

Check out the doctor with the "crazy eyes" who has performed "over 400!" euthanasia procedures, as of the filming of this documentary.

https://youtu.be/-G_xF4dvS-U

Dollars to donuts that's "St Paul's Hospital" in downtown Vancouver and most if not all her victim's organs were "harvested" before they were no longer viable, during that process...

What if: Scheduled euthanasia "clients" are whisked to another area, while still "alive".

An operating room, say, where surgeons are standing by. (It's not like they are car accident victim: These folks are PRESCHEDULED for imminent demise... Get it?)

Wish I could go undercover.

Someone needs to do an exposé.

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Dena's avatar

As for the DMV you have to actually renew your license & leave off the Donor designation. My doesn’t need renewal for 2 more years. But I don’t think I’ll wait. Left a message at donor registry but no response yet. Their phones are probably ringing off the hook. ( now that’s an old expression!).

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Tonee norman's avatar

Something similar ( but not as horrific) happened during my emergency C- section. I was near death with the loss of most of my blood and surgery was needed to repair torn internal parts. I was put under ( prior was only the epidural) for the repair work ( which the old doctor screwed up and sewed me together “ anatomically incorrect) as I was supposed to be under,I was still hearing the conversations around me. I later confronted my anistholigist because he was complaining how he was” really tired of this ongoing case”,and,”wished it would just be over “.. I remember being frightened by his words,but,I was totally paralyzed by medication and couldn’t even blink,though very much conscious! Fortunately,I don’t remember feeling the pain…just the fear..

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Jenna McCarthy's avatar

OMG SO AWFUL.

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Unapologetically Me's avatar

Tonee, your story just chilled my blood. Wow. "Sewed me up anatomically incorrect." Yes.

Let me expand. While being stapled, somehow I knew to say "count the sponges". I'd read somewhere that surgical sponges, if not accounted for and left inside, would lead to sepsis.

They counted the sponges and went back in. True story.

To illustrate further:

The surgeon who performed my C entered my hospital room around 6 am. He'd gone home but returned to speak to me. He was shook about what had happened in the OR. He came to apologize.

This is what he told me:

He's been performing cesarean for over 20 years. This episode was a first. He ALSO said that he found it difficult to IDENTIFY MY ORGANS. (So coated in blood? As well as the sponges?)

I'd never heard of that. Had no clue what the procedure entailed. I was not supposed to be having a C-Section delivery. I was supposed to have a WATER Birth.

Long story short: Yes. Shit happens. Surgeons make mistakes. Anesthesiologists make mistakes.

Years later I did some research. I wanted to know how common, or "uncommon", what happened to me during surgery was and found a website full of personal anecdotes. Horror stories like yours and mine, due to "incomplete anesthesia during surgery."

It's more common than the medical community admits.

But to go one step further, by way of research into the topic of "organ donation" and "organ harvesting", I discovered a macabre scenario being played around with in Canada, vis a vis the "MAID in CANADA PROGRAM".

Can't make this up.

https://thefederalist.com/2025/01/08/canadian-doctors-suggest-harvesting-organs-from-euthanasia-patients-before-theyre-dead/

My SUSPICIONS were confirmed.

Someone is RECRUITING. And making bank.

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Tonee norman's avatar

Wow! Good for you and your instincts!

That is actually what the doctor said about why the mistake was made. They waited a very long time before deciding on the c-section and I had been receiving stronger and stronger doses of pertocin ( the stuff to make contractions stronger) and,it turned my inner parts to “chopped liver”. His words. I was OUT of blood and water was being emergency pumped to give me some blood pressure,and,he just couldn’t tell up from down. I don’t quite remember how I found out.. the doctor may have actually told us,because,he did say when they realized it was not correct,they repaired it… but,I never got pregnant,again…though,we really were not sure it was a good idea as I was told holding to term would be difficult…🤷🏻‍♀️

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Sandra Knauf's avatar

So awful and disgusting that they would have these conversations. I'm glad you confronted him.

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Tonee norman's avatar

His reply “ oh, you were not supposed to be hearing anything “ He may have apologized…I don’t remember

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Judith's avatar

Horrific! Happy you trusted your intuition and plowed through. My Aunt felt as if her anesthesia wasn’t effective because for decades she regularly took high dose vitamin C everyday. But sometimes we just don’t know. 🙏

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Judith's avatar

OMG a Catholic hospital? Demonic

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Unapologetically Me's avatar

Absolutely.

#Diabolical

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llaw555's avatar

OMG

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David Wolosik's avatar

My grandma, who was declared "brain dead", and came back, in an earlier situation had the same experience during hip surgery!

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Claudia's avatar

I’ve been hearing about this for years now so I’m not surprised! My thoughts go to who are these ghouls performing these “procedures”? Since organs carry a high price, perhaps the family of the person “donating” should be compensated. We are seeing over and over again, how profits turns people into monsters, especially in the medical field.

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Copernicus's avatar

Nope, no financial compensation. This too easily increases pressure on the poor and vulnerable. Makes them even more vulnerable to exploitation. And muddies the water for families trying to make these already difficult decisions.

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Claudia's avatar

Makes sense! So if no compensation for families, there should be very little profit incentive for industry.

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Jpeach's avatar

I’m no medical expert, just frequent stays at Holiday Inn but, apparently organs from a live donor are far more desirable. Blood flow keeps the organs more viable for a successful transplant. The higher probability of success equals a greater financial reward to the Medical Ghouls.

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DDForTruth's avatar

Up here in Canada, aka Chinada, Intifadada, Whadafeckada, pretty damn sure this whole exceedingly lucrative organ harvesting 'side line gig' that the medical system of systems has got goin' on, is the exact reason for the protected and legal MAiD - medical assistance in dying.

Pretty damn sure that do good donor card signatores have experienced for the last time that same thing here, as there, as well.

Seriously, in what world have we actually been living in?

Back to MAiD...

To the point of "being offered," to anyone, everyone or anyone's family member to authorize regardless of you or your wishes, at the low low price of "just sign here" cuz "It's a better choice."

The list of candidates include, but are not limited to:

Anyone depressed

Anyone broke and in despair

Anyone who cannot answer back

Anyone who can't see

Anyone who can't hear

Any Vet, ever

And oh yeah, those with terminal illnesses, like cancer, or a cold.

Also:

Children with defects

Children who are thought to have defects

Sick children

Those who choose it, either by choice or someone else's choice, are told that it is a peaceful way to go.

What [they] DON'T tell ya, is first [they] inject a life threatening amount of killer shot sh*t, followed IMMEDIATELY by a paralyzing shot that renders one fully paralyzed, whereby one "looks" peaceful, but inside is screaming their heads off, and then the final heart stop shot.

Basically, the one who 'chose' the peaceful way to go is literally drowning before everyone's eyes, but looks serene and peaceful cuz they can't frickin move!

https://thefederalist.com/2025/01/07/whistleblowers-say-canadian-doctors-pushed-euthanasia-on-unwilling-disabled-patients/

https://x.com/SamanthaTaghoy/status/1940385613737230395

https://www.drtrozzi.news/p/nci-testimony-angelina-ireland-on

https://rumble.com/v4x7tgh-jordan-peterson-maid.html

And yes, both here and there, the bottom line IS the bottom line for this predatorial pervasiveness into LIFE.

Donated or Chosen, if they have "gone peacefully" into that goodnight, the harvesting brings in the mega$$ (which probably lots of it lands in some white coat pockets), PLUS, it takes a load off the system of caring for them through the thick of things.

Again, what kind of world are we actually living in?

Stop the planet and let me off, cuz daaaaaaamn, this sh*t is evil!!

OR, Bring it ALL Down, and let's start over shall we... this time without those who constantly and consistently choose $$ over life - at and on every level.

Them Jackasses gotta go!

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Unapologetically Me's avatar

"Better off Dead?"

A documentary by Liz Carr, UK.

https://youtu.be/-G_xF4dvS-U

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Judith's avatar

Stuff of horror movies in real life. This isn’t humanity, it’s demonic.

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BluesLover's avatar

Yep, Canada is a whole different gig .. yikes. Feel free to come to the 🇺🇸

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DDForTruth's avatar

Thanxs Friend 💞

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