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You nailed it with "yet another broken bit of bureaucracy" and "possible to hold two opposing beliefs at the same time (namely that the US needs to attract high-level talent to maintain a competitive global edge while also being obligated to protect Americans)".

I've spent the last 20+ year working for corporate America in the tech sector and I've had a front row seat to the H1B (and L1 etc) visas. Both things are true. 1) *at times* (usually during boom times when we're on a hiring spree), we can't hire engineers fast enough from the domestic talent pool so being able to tap into the global talent pool absolutely helps. 2) foreign H1B visa holders are definitely cheaper and usually less of a flight risk (to jump ship for an even higher offer a year later) due to the lengthy process the path-to-greencard (and then citizenship) entails so companies kind of have these visa holders by the gonads once that process starts. This latter point is pretty much entirely due to the broken government bureaucracy (not surprising).

IMO the correct way to fix this is to throw out the entire set of foreign workers visa programs (there are a bunch of different ones), and start with a clean slate. There should be a transparent and streamlined process for companies to get these visas when absolutely needed, and they should only be approved if there genuinely is no domestic supply of the talent needed - which admittedly is not all that easy to assess. Even today, it's not like these visas get approved willy nilly; companies do have to prove that they tried hiring domestically first (going through a 6 month waiting period during which they allegedly have to advertise domestically first, etc) - but at this point the big corporations have figured out the game and there are cottage industry immigration law firms that help them navigate these nuisances (for a hefty fee I might add).

At the end of the day, the issue here isn't that we're being overrun by these foreign visa holders, and also, *when* they truly aren't taking away any of our domestic jobs, these foreigners are a net positive to our economy because they're highly paid (on average) which means they contribute lots of taxes, and at the same time don't receive any benefits. So compared to our illegal immigration problems this is night and day and we've got a million other bigger problems as a country.

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"Importantly, what has happened to us as a society when just about any disagreement—even among allies—automatically and instantaneously devolves into a petty pissing match?"

XXXXXXXXXXXXXX This statement sums it up nicely. Blovating ffffffffffffffffffing nonsense by everyone everywhere always. WTFFFFFFFFFFFFff people. Trial ballons are everywhere. Cut out this BS nonsense and focus on doing great things with the Trump man. 2025 will be great year. Roll with it and help it happen.

Thanks to Jenna for always providing us with great musings.

Happy and Healthy 2025 to all; Happy Holidays.

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