Jenna, we share your pain. Charlie was a generational talent who fought with words and ideas alone. I’ve not seen one example of him being cruel or belittling anyone. And that’s what they hated most; that his battles took place on a playing field they couldn’t compete on, because their ideas are weak and their methods of articulating them even weaker.
So they took him out with a bullet. Make no mistake, this was a professional hit on a man they saw as a real threat for decades to come. It has ‘inside job’ written all over it. The deep state has accepted that it has to put up with 3.5 more years of Trump, and turned its attention to erasing those to whom he might pass the baton.
This is a much darker and more dangerous moment than I think a lot of people realize.
Although it may feel that way at the moment, we can never let it happen. Charlie Kirk’s earthly life was extinguished, sadly, yet his legacy here must live on..through us who will carry the torch forward in the same spirit he possessed. Together we can make his vision for America a beacon of light.
As he rests in his eternal home in the heavens with our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, may the God of all comfort and mercy make His presence known to Charlie’s precious family.
🙏🏼❤️
Psalm 57:1
Be merciful unto me, O God, be merciful unto me: for my soul trusteth in thee: yea, in the shadow of thy wings will I make my refuge, until these calamities be overpast.
Psalm 91:4
He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler.
If a professional hit, the real proof will be evident when the shooter is found dead..... Maybe from one of those "suicides" where he shoots himself twice in the back of the head.
I take comfort in knowing that God sees all and that He will avenge Charlie. His murderer(s) may live many years in peace and prosperity, but all men die eventually. And when they do, they will receive a punishment far worse than anything this world could give them.
Or is a total goof who couldn’t possibly make that shot and would have never stopped with just one. He wasn’t one of the usual nuts the Left recruits to do their dirty work.
I hope and pray this is fake. Mike’s lips didn’t match up with the words plus this kind of thing is simple to pull off. Not for me— but for some young whippersnappers.
It did happen but not as presented in the clip. There was a moment of silence but during it, someone asked for a prayer to be said out loud and then others pushed back. It did seem to me that some people didn't stand and I wondered who they were.
Feels like a throat punch to our constitution. Successful government relies on the consent of the governed. I do not consent to this. I do not consent to a system so corrupt that the opposition assassinates future leaders before they reach their full potential.
I can’t gather the right words. I just keep saying travesty, tragedy, and I’m devastated. The level of depravity on the left boggles my mind. The only good news here is how this depravity has awakened those who were still somewhat blind to the left’s machinations. I believe it will unite us even more.
There is zero doubt in my mind this was a professional hit and the two patsies who were apprehended fairly quickly were perfect decoys to allow the sniper to escape. He will likely never be caught but I pray he is.
This day is loaded with confusion, frustration and anger that politics, geopolitics, wars, money, power, taking sides to the point where considering any alternatives becomes heresy.
Yes, what a loss. Another thriving human life squandered/snuffed out needlessly.
But someone/some group/some force felt it necessary for their benefit, and their benefit alone.
As Childers always says: "It's not about the event, but who benefited from it".
Clearly prayers go out to their family.
When human compassion leaves the room and anyone speaks of one side being 'right' and the other clearly 'wrong', that opens the door of chaos.
Caitlin Johnstone penned this article today:
"Thoughts On The Assassination Of Charlie Kirk"
She's taken sides and she sides with Palestinians, and the horrors of the genocide in Gaza. She sides with the multiple international courts and groups that have declared that Israel continues to commit crimes of genocide against an innocent peoples.
How is this even remotely related to Charlie Kirk (and his lovely family, now destroyed)?
Caitlin provides a quote from Charlie Kirk on his X/Twitter feed, that reads as follows:
"Israel says Hamas beat the baby hostages of Ariel and Kfir Bibas to death with their bare hands.
This is likely the truth. Israeli forensic analysts say there is no proof that a bombing caused their death.
Hamas is a death cult fixated on elimination of all Jews."
Loaded statements I know. Don't shoot the messenger.
Acknowledging that Mossad/Israel created Hamas to prevent a two state solution is a very difficult pill to swallow.
Someone felt there was a point, a goal, an objective.
Another senseless death, another loss, another opportunity for sides to be chosen and hatred of 'the other' to ferment/grow/escalate/turn into another 'excuse' to go to battle.
Keeping an eye on the big picture of what darkness is trying to do to us, and not letting it overwhelm needs to be crushed by the light of care/compassion/learning/experiencing and wearing the shoes of others, especially those that are oppressed.
Charlie Kirk, Rest in Peace.
You didn't deserve this.
May we learn to one day forgive, continue to seek and find solidarity, reconciliation.
I agree. It felt like 9/11 to me—am I that old? The ramifications of this are tremendous, just as they were with the Twin Towers. My husband said today: "It's like someone came from the future to eliminate the future John Connor [Terminator]. This guy was meant to change the US."
I am speechless at the cruelty of ppl that are joyful over death. That is grotesque and sadly, a characteristic of the left. Charlie was going to be President one day and the left saw that. We cannot continue to say the left are in their mother's basements...the truth is, is that the left have been training for years and fueled by left wing media. I am grieving for Charlie, his family, the loss of innocence on campuses, and the 9/11 families. It is a very difficult day, week, year. Charlie had a future....
I disagree that this is a specific characteristic of the left. This is what happens when people associate and identity with a group that has been led astray. I imagine we would see similar responses from the right if Fauci, Gates, and/or some other one of these evil perpetrators were assassinated like this.
This isn't a left or right thing. It's a humanity thing. The nazis slaughtered the jews, the Japanese slaughtered the Chinese, the Americans slaughtered the Vietnamese, the Japanese, the Iraqis, the Israelis continue to slaughter the Palestinians, and the cycle of violence goes on and on and on. What convinced individuals that murdering other individuals was ok? The larger group that they associated themselves with regardless of the morality. This is the fundamental problem with humanity and as cheesy as it sounds, only love and compassion will overcome it.
I disagree about seeing gleeful comments if Gates or Fauci were assassinated. Those of us who see them as agents of evil also see shooting someone in cold blood as evil. If they died of cancer we'd be likely to find grim justice in it, but partying over murder isn't how we tend to roll.
Exactly. My husband and I had this conversation yesterday. Would we be happy if they were tried and found guilty and sentenced to hanging by their toenails? Yes. But assassinated in cold blood? No. We took no joy in the murders of the Democratic legislators. Murder is wrong. Justice is right.
In all fairness, the comparison of the death of a serial killer to a beautiful God fearing family man is flawed., and one death is just, while the other is inhuman.
For the people who constantly scream about gun violence it’s beginning to look like the pot calling the kettle black. It seems to be their favorite answer to threats to their power.
Maybe a few, but it’s become a majority in the left. Charlie Kirk himself posted a few months ago that about 45% of left-of-center agreed that it would be at least partially justifiable to murder Elon Musk, about 55% said the same about President Trump, and over 57% thought it was at least somewhat okay to destroy Tesla dealerships. There’s no way a similar poll of right-of-center Americans about their political opponents would find anywhere near those numbers.
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Historically, they view others as property, just as they did during covid (mandates, for example). While one Senator recently said we get our rights from the government, not from God.
There are always some bad apples in every group - but I believe most of us here are not the same as them. We want justice, not cold blooded murder. We don’t celebrate death but understand we are fighting an evil that wants to destroy & intimidate the truth telling, truth searching, God fearing people into silence.
We don’t murder our opponents when they seem to pick up speed and power with their message. We don’t wish death upon them for their opinions, until those opinions start to incite violence against others and hate.
I haven’t studied it extensively, but since & including Lincoln’s assassination, all the way to Trump & now Charlie - it’s always the left behind it all. So no, we’re not the same. I recommend the Vince podcast on Rumble. He took Bongino’s spot. He also does radio but I like the 1 hr. morning podcast.
There is a major difference between Fauchi, who facilitated multiple deaths of children, animals (those poor tortured Beagles!) and general, trusting people vs. Charlie Kirk who never planned and executed a single murder. I believe in the death penalty for murderers, and Fauchi fits that description. I wouldn’t mind if his death sentence mirrored his treatment of the Beagles.
I agree ‘most’ of us wouldn’t do gleeful. But @V’s “What convinced individuals that murdering other individuals was ok? The larger group that they associated themselves with regardless of the morality”. People like Charlie didn’t walk with the “larger group”, he stood above it and that’s made them fearful and shut him down. I pray I don’t join the wide path to Hell either. Don’t want to follow the pied piper.
I would be fine with it. I don’t care how people who inflict torture and death upon innocent victims die, couldnt care less how they leave the planet. Buh-bye!
For now, but the pendulum swings back and forth. Which side was calling for the mass murder of Iraqis based on the lies of weapons of mass destruction?
The disgraceful display of hostility from those who are saying these awful things about someone who was aligned with “peace” is “typical virtual reality” where misdirected anger is vomitted regardless of who the victim is. It says alot about the continued influence of the deep state playbook. Nice touch, finishing it off with a school shooting.
This is manipulation. Don’t play into it. Too many already have.
I would never cheer an assassination. I wouldn’t even cheer openly for a legally administered death penalty on him, but yes I’d be glad it was over and justice was served.
No, we are NOT the same and that pendulum is NOT swinging to that extreme and never has.
The difference, Vee, is that both Gates and Fauci are mass murderers. However, I wouldn’t be happy if they were assassinated, and I believe many feel the same way (but, like you, I know many would celebrate). They deserve their day in court. And I will take great joy in a guilty verdict and a sentencing oh hanging by their toenails.
I personally believe that death to Fauci and Gates would be too kind and too easy an outcome for them. I personally would just be overjoyed if Gate’s ability to do what he wants on our planet ceases, and Fauci’s cruel research projects ceased as well…exposure of the intent of both of these psychopaths probably would never happen on or via MSM. It’s sooooo beyond trying to get ppl to change their viewpoint… it’s more of HEALING THE DIVIDE.
Hard disagree! Comparing the Nazis slaughtering the Jews with Americans slaughtering the Vietnamese, Japanese and Iraqis? Tiny difference there maybe? No? I'm as cynical as you about our involvement in foreign wars (except for WW2), but come on!
"I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents." --General Smedley D. Butler, War Is a Racket
Point taken in that groups/tribal tendencies leads to pulling the wool over one's own eyes through denial in order to 'fit in' and not be ostracized from the main social current. And it begins by convincing oneself to believe lies, however, I also agree your comparison is entirely flawed as pointed out by someone else. Comparing this assassination to someone like Gates or Fauci is actually absurd due to the known level of their part in criminal acts against humanity. Perhaps there would be equivalency with AOC or a countering political activist without a checkered past as an appropriate analogy.
The French and all the other countries that “invaded” Vietnam, for centuries, long before the Americans got there, did their fair share of “slaughtering” as well.
Went there and read comments and it seems most commenters live in a differemt reality than I do. It is surreal. I know we all see things differently based on our lenses but some commenters were in left field.
I think the fact that he was popular and asked people to discuss their differences was what made him a threat to the establishment.
I don't believe this was a crazy angry lefty that did it. The crazy angry are incapable of doing even the basics of life. Killing him strengthened the divide and took away a voice of reason.
Whatever you do, don't hate the left for it, hate the people 'shaking the jar' that created the hate on both sides. Use this as a reason to try to have those difficult talks with people that came to a different conclusion about issues. That is how you reach the truth and see the true enemy. Realize that much of what each of us knows could be wrong and be willing to find those things. Don't let hate spread hate.
It’s so easy to be angry and want vengeance. We have to get to the point, well, we have to TRY, very hard to the point of prayer and forgiveness. In our hearts.
This doesn’t mean doing nothing. It means getting to the truth, and bringing whoever the h*ll is responsible to justice. Not JUST the assassin, but all the help he had, whoever paid him and set up the escape.
This is the turning point. Don’t let it turn to the evil.
God bless Jenna, thank you for giving us a place to turn.
Yours is a really important comment that I’ll need to continue to reread. The divisive forces “shaking the jar” to create hate on all sides is the part that’s so frustratingly opaque.
Well stated. And blaming the left is only an assumption. How many of us were “the left” before Covid? It would serve humanity to go beyond thinking of “party systems.” Unfortunately, we have the dim light of the senate to keep the divide going.
Agree. Once I heard that the man they had originally apprehended was not involved and that the assassin was still at large, I thought, "oh boy," and my heart sank a little. For the killer to get away proves this was a professional job and can only lead to uncertain and potentially darker speculations. It was clearly a political assassination akin to those of the 1960s leaders. Let's hope some light gets shed on this.
He was discussing “mass shooting and gun control” when he was assassinated. Was he responding to a question from a person in the audience? If he was, that might have been the signal to “shoot.” That would be a person I would question.
I read this a few times, ready to disagree, but you are right about the jar shakers. The hit was not some crazy tranny with a gun.
The only problem I see is that it’s nearly impossible to have the difficult talks with the left, with our so-called friends and family. This horrible event might be a chance, and I hope and pray that it is, to start the discussion, make inroads but they cancel us the second we say anything contrary to their beliefs.
I do agree that the distinctions are meaningless and we are all probably in danger of finding ourselves on the other side of the barbed wire if we delineate so explicitly. It really isn't a question of political orientation but of belonging. We are all born wanting to belong. And since WW2, and maybe WW1 here in Europe the sense of belonging has been being eroded. Slowly but surely, with each generation, we have lost the sense of belonging to one great creator, and our connection to our God(s) being through how treat each other. How we minister to each other. How we connect to the land, to our children, to the animals around us. How we heal. How we mourn. How we birth. How we die. We are each others conduit for connection.
But we are wading through a quagmire of fake connection and since 2020 have become the most disconnected that it is possible to be from each other, possibly to make space for AI to create an effective facsimile of what is left, because AI can't even begin to hit the highs of human beings at their best. And that is saying something. I thought that 2016 onwards was bad. But this is quite easily the worst that it has ever been.
But, tech dudes, God is in the machine because everything that this machine is made of is of God, (and this applies to whichever higher power you turn to). We are all made of the same dust.
So left and right is meaningless. It is simply the combined how of pain of the terribly disconnected trying to connect through the only medium the generations of modern warfare have been left with. The violence of words. Of meaningless, cruel, painful, horrible, contemptible words.
How do we explain such evil - such depravity of people who write such abhorrent comments.
“For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.”
That is it exactly, Laura. One of my favorite verses. And it’s not one of those pretty happy love everybody verses. it’s one about the absolute truth: that we are in a battle of good against evil. What evil doesn’t realize is that good will win in the end. it always does.
Just grief stricken. A sad sad day. This is because he had a massive and ever- growing youth following. He was getting through to brainwashed university students. Makes me want to FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT all the more!!!
In two hours I’ll be at a Bible study group in a local church. I plan to summon the courage to ask everyone to join me in a prayer that that kept me up all night. Our hearts are broken.
Besides prayer, what else can we do to end this evil? Conservatives and Christians have to think about what we do and where go from here. Because it can’t be violence.
Charlie did everything right: he never insulted the other side. He let them talk and asked them questions and showed them respect. And still, the hate on the other side silenced him from even doing that. 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Whoever paid the assassin (it had to have been a professional hit as per two former FBI agents who have spoken out ), hated Charlie. Remember earlier this year when 55% of self identified Democrats said it would be acceptable to assassinate our president? And all the fans of Luige Mangione who celebrated the murder of the health company CEO? That behavior arises out of hate so strong it can only be described as satanic. Just last week, Tim Walz told a crowd that they would be celebrating Trump’s death at some point.
Perhaps hate, or rage, has become a characteristic of the attitudes, thoughts, and actions of too many, but in my book it's pure brainwashing through social engineering.
Charlie took a huge bite out of their control of young minds and colleges. They knew this would limit rallies on campuses going forward, which in turn limits our reach. They already have the campus captured inside the classrooms, but Charlie was fighting them from the outside and it was working. That was the motive I believe. Blaming it on the trans issues is just a red herring, which has an added bonus of stirring up more hate between us all on the side. Two for one in their minds.
I’m feeling the same as Jenna. I’m sad and angry that this tragedy occurred. I was glued to the TV yesterday and last evening, watching tribute after tribute to this courageous young man. My heart breaks for his wife and children. I’m so sad. I don’t understand how anyone can justify this evil behavior.
I still cannot believe it happened...and the number of people celebrating and making the "who's next" lists is beyond comprehension. It was horrifying enough when people were upset that Trump's assassin failed. But seeing that callous cruelty persist when young man - a husband and father with two young children in the prime of his life - is actually murdered in cold blood... how can anyone celebrate this? My heart goes out to his poor family. I fear deeply for our nation.
Charlie is (I can’t write “was”) a force of nature. Absolutely could have been President. And one of the best ever. I watch Charlie almost every day on RSV. We lost the “Saint of Freedom” yesterday. This heinous assassination is on par with MLK and RKF. I’m profoundly sad and angry. The Left just galvanized tens of millions of Americans to take our country back from the Globalists/Communists/Islamists. Trump must accelerate the demolition of the Deep State. Charlie’s vision for America will absolutely happen.
Well said, Momcat. Killing babies is merely a sport for them. Charlie was so right when he said something along these lines, get married, have babies= A happy life
I am not the same person I was yesterday…am feeling a deep sense of loss, strong feelings I didn’t expect. Not angry, not yet, maybe that will come, I don’t know.
Sorrow…so sorry for this country. Sorrow for Charly’s family.
Richard, I feel the same. This hit me really hard and I’m not quite sure why. I cried over this and I am not a big crier. I think Charlie Kirk was a great man. I think his intelligence threatened a lot of people. This assassination is “ the straw that broke the camels back”. We’ve put up with so much and seen so much evil and the escalation of evil. I’m not sure I can tolerate much more. In fact, I am quite certain that I will not tolerate any more of this.
There is. I don’t have a social circle in person, so I have nobody to go run into the arms of and just cry together like I so deeply want to. Without this Substack, and C&C, I would not be able to express my grief in a communal way.
'And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.' The words of Jesus Christ from John 6:40
Charlie Kirk was martyred for his beliefs. This will be his legacy and we all can honor it by continuing to speak out about our faith and our beliefs and against evil. We are in a spiritual battle and he was one of the leaders. The ripples created by his assassination will spread far and wide and spur more revival than the evil doers can even fathom at this point. May he rest in peace.
Praying for Charlie’s family, for law enforcement to find this evil individual and any others involved and I’m hoping this will fuel an even greater uprising within the youth at college campuses across the whole nation!!
My heart is so sad and pissed off at the same time. 😞😡
I am heartbroken for his two precious babies... it's not okay!! And then the cold-blooded people that celebrate this tragedy... the cruelty takes my breath away. How can we live in a world with people like this?! 😔
This. I’m craving this so much. I’m visiting my son who just moved to the Austin area and neither he nor I know a single soul down here, (except he knows those he works with at his new job - but he said no one talks politics there.) I was craving a hug this morning. A shoulder to cry on.
A sister group to the one I spoke for yesterday is holding a fundraiser on the 19th with Katie Hopkins. If you don’t know her she is hilarious! It’s part of her “batshit bonkers Britain tour“… You should go!🥰
Yes, I moved to South Dakota, which is a very, very welcome change from Minnesota, but I don't know anyone here.
I'm dreading needing to make one more trip to Austin to deal with my father's estate (that might be a little less annoying if I knew anyone in Austin).
Jenna, we share your pain. Charlie was a generational talent who fought with words and ideas alone. I’ve not seen one example of him being cruel or belittling anyone. And that’s what they hated most; that his battles took place on a playing field they couldn’t compete on, because their ideas are weak and their methods of articulating them even weaker.
So they took him out with a bullet. Make no mistake, this was a professional hit on a man they saw as a real threat for decades to come. It has ‘inside job’ written all over it. The deep state has accepted that it has to put up with 3.5 more years of Trump, and turned its attention to erasing those to whom he might pass the baton.
This is a much darker and more dangerous moment than I think a lot of people realize.
My newly-minted son in law said "He offered a conversation. They replied with a bullet. Free speech is dead"
We are in a Cold War.
I want to quote him. First name at least?
Luke. But I just reread his snap. He didn't say "free speech is dead" he actually said "the art of conversation has died"
Blame MIL'S sketchy memory...
Although it may feel that way at the moment, we can never let it happen. Charlie Kirk’s earthly life was extinguished, sadly, yet his legacy here must live on..through us who will carry the torch forward in the same spirit he possessed. Together we can make his vision for America a beacon of light.
As he rests in his eternal home in the heavens with our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, may the God of all comfort and mercy make His presence known to Charlie’s precious family.
🙏🏼❤️
Psalm 57:1
Be merciful unto me, O God, be merciful unto me: for my soul trusteth in thee: yea, in the shadow of thy wings will I make my refuge, until these calamities be overpast.
Psalm 91:4
He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler.
If a professional hit, the real proof will be evident when the shooter is found dead..... Maybe from one of those "suicides" where he shoots himself twice in the back of the head.
somebody will be found dead, blamed, its all over. but not the real shooter. and not the people who gave the order.
I take comfort in knowing that God sees all and that He will avenge Charlie. His murderer(s) may live many years in peace and prosperity, but all men die eventually. And when they do, they will receive a punishment far worse than anything this world could give them.
This is a comfort which I hold.
Or is a total goof who couldn’t possibly make that shot and would have never stopped with just one. He wasn’t one of the usual nuts the Left recruits to do their dirty work.
Kinda don’t think so. 😔
This is hard to watch. Some of those in our congress are depraved beings. I can’t even call them human:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/MqlcpOK9JOo
They are VILE and I don’t even have to watch a video to offer agreement.
I hope and pray this is fake. Mike’s lips didn’t match up with the words plus this kind of thing is simple to pull off. Not for me— but for some young whippersnappers.
It wasn’t fake. It actually happened
It did happen but not as presented in the clip. There was a moment of silence but during it, someone asked for a prayer to be said out loud and then others pushed back. It did seem to me that some people didn't stand and I wondered who they were.
That thought crossed my mind, KC
Is this real??? If yes, who were they??
This is real. It actually happened. I watched it
You saw something on the internet or were you there?
Don’t know the answer to either of those questions.
i saw a video of a congresswoman, but i can't remember her name, she was praising Charlie and said she was going to start a hashtag #LiveLikeCharlie.
Is this REALLY REAL???! Where is this? I find this incredibly disturbing! 😳
Not sure Evelyne. It truly is disturbing if it is.
My fear is that he is now out of the country. Every step was carefully planned, including his escape.
Indeed. Don’t be surprised if we never find out who did it.
Guaranteed to have a middle name. Like James Earl Ray or Lee Harvey Oswald.
You are right. Where did he go? Ukraine comes to mind.
Feels like a throat punch to our constitution. Successful government relies on the consent of the governed. I do not consent to this. I do not consent to a system so corrupt that the opposition assassinates future leaders before they reach their full potential.
I can’t gather the right words. I just keep saying travesty, tragedy, and I’m devastated. The level of depravity on the left boggles my mind. The only good news here is how this depravity has awakened those who were still somewhat blind to the left’s machinations. I believe it will unite us even more.
There is zero doubt in my mind this was a professional hit and the two patsies who were apprehended fairly quickly were perfect decoys to allow the sniper to escape. He will likely never be caught but I pray he is.
This day is loaded with confusion, frustration and anger that politics, geopolitics, wars, money, power, taking sides to the point where considering any alternatives becomes heresy.
Yes, what a loss. Another thriving human life squandered/snuffed out needlessly.
But someone/some group/some force felt it necessary for their benefit, and their benefit alone.
As Childers always says: "It's not about the event, but who benefited from it".
Clearly prayers go out to their family.
When human compassion leaves the room and anyone speaks of one side being 'right' and the other clearly 'wrong', that opens the door of chaos.
Caitlin Johnstone penned this article today:
"Thoughts On The Assassination Of Charlie Kirk"
She's taken sides and she sides with Palestinians, and the horrors of the genocide in Gaza. She sides with the multiple international courts and groups that have declared that Israel continues to commit crimes of genocide against an innocent peoples.
How is this even remotely related to Charlie Kirk (and his lovely family, now destroyed)?
Caitlin provides a quote from Charlie Kirk on his X/Twitter feed, that reads as follows:
"Israel says Hamas beat the baby hostages of Ariel and Kfir Bibas to death with their bare hands.
This is likely the truth. Israeli forensic analysts say there is no proof that a bombing caused their death.
Hamas is a death cult fixated on elimination of all Jews."
Loaded statements I know. Don't shoot the messenger.
Acknowledging that Mossad/Israel created Hamas to prevent a two state solution is a very difficult pill to swallow.
https://swprs.org/why-israel-created-hamas/
Read the entire article if you wish.
https://www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/thoughts-on-the-assassination-of
Is it all sick?
What's the point?
Someone felt there was a point, a goal, an objective.
Another senseless death, another loss, another opportunity for sides to be chosen and hatred of 'the other' to ferment/grow/escalate/turn into another 'excuse' to go to battle.
Keeping an eye on the big picture of what darkness is trying to do to us, and not letting it overwhelm needs to be crushed by the light of care/compassion/learning/experiencing and wearing the shoes of others, especially those that are oppressed.
Charlie Kirk, Rest in Peace.
You didn't deserve this.
May we learn to one day forgive, continue to seek and find solidarity, reconciliation.
well articulated. It totally rings true.
I agree. It felt like 9/11 to me—am I that old? The ramifications of this are tremendous, just as they were with the Twin Towers. My husband said today: "It's like someone came from the future to eliminate the future John Connor [Terminator]. This guy was meant to change the US."
I am speechless at the cruelty of ppl that are joyful over death. That is grotesque and sadly, a characteristic of the left. Charlie was going to be President one day and the left saw that. We cannot continue to say the left are in their mother's basements...the truth is, is that the left have been training for years and fueled by left wing media. I am grieving for Charlie, his family, the loss of innocence on campuses, and the 9/11 families. It is a very difficult day, week, year. Charlie had a future....
It’s just unthinkable.😭
BluesLover - “Charlie was going to be President one day”
Yes. I agree. And that terrified them.
100% Laura Kasner
I disagree that this is a specific characteristic of the left. This is what happens when people associate and identity with a group that has been led astray. I imagine we would see similar responses from the right if Fauci, Gates, and/or some other one of these evil perpetrators were assassinated like this.
This isn't a left or right thing. It's a humanity thing. The nazis slaughtered the jews, the Japanese slaughtered the Chinese, the Americans slaughtered the Vietnamese, the Japanese, the Iraqis, the Israelis continue to slaughter the Palestinians, and the cycle of violence goes on and on and on. What convinced individuals that murdering other individuals was ok? The larger group that they associated themselves with regardless of the morality. This is the fundamental problem with humanity and as cheesy as it sounds, only love and compassion will overcome it.
I disagree about seeing gleeful comments if Gates or Fauci were assassinated. Those of us who see them as agents of evil also see shooting someone in cold blood as evil. If they died of cancer we'd be likely to find grim justice in it, but partying over murder isn't how we tend to roll.
Exactly. My husband and I had this conversation yesterday. Would we be happy if they were tried and found guilty and sentenced to hanging by their toenails? Yes. But assassinated in cold blood? No. We took no joy in the murders of the Democratic legislators. Murder is wrong. Justice is right.
In all fairness, the comparison of the death of a serial killer to a beautiful God fearing family man is flawed., and one death is just, while the other is inhuman.
Historically, American conservatives have not used organized violence as the left has always done.
For the people who constantly scream about gun violence it’s beginning to look like the pot calling the kettle black. It seems to be their favorite answer to threats to their power.
I would like to believe that this is true for everyone who considers themselves as part of the right, but there are always bad apples in every group.
Maybe a few, but it’s become a majority in the left. Charlie Kirk himself posted a few months ago that about 45% of left-of-center agreed that it would be at least partially justifiable to murder Elon Musk, about 55% said the same about President Trump, and over 57% thought it was at least somewhat okay to destroy Tesla dealerships. There’s no way a similar poll of right-of-center Americans about their political opponents would find anywhere near those numbers.
The poll is shown in C&C today. Double check the first figure but, yep, totally disgusting and reprehensible. Truly hard to comprehend.
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Jenna, you made me cry again!
GROSS. I did not know that.
Bad apples is one thing, but here we are talking about political/ideologically based violence with its long history in the Democrat party.
They were the ones who stood for slavery, so they have generations that don’t value the sacredness of life.
Historically, they view others as property, just as they did during covid (mandates, for example). While one Senator recently said we get our rights from the government, not from God.
There are always some bad apples in every group - but I believe most of us here are not the same as them. We want justice, not cold blooded murder. We don’t celebrate death but understand we are fighting an evil that wants to destroy & intimidate the truth telling, truth searching, God fearing people into silence.
We don’t murder our opponents when they seem to pick up speed and power with their message. We don’t wish death upon them for their opinions, until those opinions start to incite violence against others and hate.
The difference is in motive.
I haven’t studied it extensively, but since & including Lincoln’s assassination, all the way to Trump & now Charlie - it’s always the left behind it all. So no, we’re not the same. I recommend the Vince podcast on Rumble. He took Bongino’s spot. He also does radio but I like the 1 hr. morning podcast.
There is a major difference between Fauchi, who facilitated multiple deaths of children, animals (those poor tortured Beagles!) and general, trusting people vs. Charlie Kirk who never planned and executed a single murder. I believe in the death penalty for murderers, and Fauchi fits that description. I wouldn’t mind if his death sentence mirrored his treatment of the Beagles.
Lest we forget that GOD is the judge. But to seek justice in the protection of animals and children must be our duty.
YES. 100%
And not just children and Beagles. He has tortured many species and torn their babies out of their arms (monkeys.)
Comparing them is deliberately misleading
I agree ‘most’ of us wouldn’t do gleeful. But @V’s “What convinced individuals that murdering other individuals was ok? The larger group that they associated themselves with regardless of the morality”. People like Charlie didn’t walk with the “larger group”, he stood above it and that’s made them fearful and shut him down. I pray I don’t join the wide path to Hell either. Don’t want to follow the pied piper.
I would be fine with it. I don’t care how people who inflict torture and death upon innocent victims die, couldnt care less how they leave the planet. Buh-bye!
You are not wrong. But the left dominates with respect to asylum candidates.
For now, but the pendulum swings back and forth. Which side was calling for the mass murder of Iraqis based on the lies of weapons of mass destruction?
Excuse me, but who was calling for the "mass murder of Iraqis"? Perhaps you need to define your terms.
Those were neocons, not conservatives.
I don't know a single conservative person who would cheer Fauci or Gates' murder, let alone actually committing it.
Ditto
As much as I couldn’t stand Obummer or Byden I would NEVER cheer ever if they were killed the way Charlie was 🥵
The disgraceful display of hostility from those who are saying these awful things about someone who was aligned with “peace” is “typical virtual reality” where misdirected anger is vomitted regardless of who the victim is. It says alot about the continued influence of the deep state playbook. Nice touch, finishing it off with a school shooting.
This is manipulation. Don’t play into it. Too many already have.
You don’t “know” one. They exist. To continue to proliferate the “us against them” theme is to be complicit. This is and has always been deep state.
I would never cheer an assassination. I wouldn’t even cheer openly for a legally administered death penalty on him, but yes I’d be glad it was over and justice was served.
No, we are NOT the same and that pendulum is NOT swinging to that extreme and never has.
you're not wrong, Vee
I strongly disagree with the premise of your first paragraph.
The difference, Vee, is that both Gates and Fauci are mass murderers. However, I wouldn’t be happy if they were assassinated, and I believe many feel the same way (but, like you, I know many would celebrate). They deserve their day in court. And I will take great joy in a guilty verdict and a sentencing oh hanging by their toenails.
I personally believe that death to Fauci and Gates would be too kind and too easy an outcome for them. I personally would just be overjoyed if Gate’s ability to do what he wants on our planet ceases, and Fauci’s cruel research projects ceased as well…exposure of the intent of both of these psychopaths probably would never happen on or via MSM. It’s sooooo beyond trying to get ppl to change their viewpoint… it’s more of HEALING THE DIVIDE.
(Oh my kittens! It let me comment without having to resubscribe!!! WOOOOOHOOOOO!!!)
Hard disagree! Comparing the Nazis slaughtering the Jews with Americans slaughtering the Vietnamese, Japanese and Iraqis? Tiny difference there maybe? No? I'm as cynical as you about our involvement in foreign wars (except for WW2), but come on!
"I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents." --General Smedley D. Butler, War Is a Racket
Thanks for introducing me to Smedley D Butler. Powerful speaker. I've never seen it so clearly stated, that War in a Racket. And the most decorated General of his time. I looked him up and his death cause wasn't clear. https://www.heritage-history.com/site/hclass/secret_societies/ebooks/pdf/butler_racket.pdf
So... you must be at least 122 years old now?
She’s quoting a General
“The rich are different from you and me.”
She's a lunatic looking for engagement. Just block V who represents herself with the anarchy symbol.
She’s quoting a general. What happened to freedom of speech? In your opinion is it only for a select group?
Point taken in that groups/tribal tendencies leads to pulling the wool over one's own eyes through denial in order to 'fit in' and not be ostracized from the main social current. And it begins by convincing oneself to believe lies, however, I also agree your comparison is entirely flawed as pointed out by someone else. Comparing this assassination to someone like Gates or Fauci is actually absurd due to the known level of their part in criminal acts against humanity. Perhaps there would be equivalency with AOC or a countering political activist without a checkered past as an appropriate analogy.
Exactly. Bam!
I agree with part of what you said. But,I think it’s a LACK of humanity thing…
The French and all the other countries that “invaded” Vietnam, for centuries, long before the Americans got there, did their fair share of “slaughtering” as well.
I agree 100%
Like this man. A pastor. And his flock is even worse. https://substack.com/@johnpavlovitz/note/c-154752289?r=19oj26&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=notes-share-action.
Went there and read comments and it seems most commenters live in a differemt reality than I do. It is surreal. I know we all see things differently based on our lenses but some commenters were in left field.
I think the fact that he was popular and asked people to discuss their differences was what made him a threat to the establishment.
I don't believe this was a crazy angry lefty that did it. The crazy angry are incapable of doing even the basics of life. Killing him strengthened the divide and took away a voice of reason.
Whatever you do, don't hate the left for it, hate the people 'shaking the jar' that created the hate on both sides. Use this as a reason to try to have those difficult talks with people that came to a different conclusion about issues. That is how you reach the truth and see the true enemy. Realize that much of what each of us knows could be wrong and be willing to find those things. Don't let hate spread hate.
Well said.
It’s so easy to be angry and want vengeance. We have to get to the point, well, we have to TRY, very hard to the point of prayer and forgiveness. In our hearts.
This doesn’t mean doing nothing. It means getting to the truth, and bringing whoever the h*ll is responsible to justice. Not JUST the assassin, but all the help he had, whoever paid him and set up the escape.
This is the turning point. Don’t let it turn to the evil.
God bless Jenna, thank you for giving us a place to turn.
But watch your back.🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Yours is a really important comment that I’ll need to continue to reread. The divisive forces “shaking the jar” to create hate on all sides is the part that’s so frustratingly opaque.
Well stated. And blaming the left is only an assumption. How many of us were “the left” before Covid? It would serve humanity to go beyond thinking of “party systems.” Unfortunately, we have the dim light of the senate to keep the divide going.
Agree. Once I heard that the man they had originally apprehended was not involved and that the assassin was still at large, I thought, "oh boy," and my heart sank a little. For the killer to get away proves this was a professional job and can only lead to uncertain and potentially darker speculations. It was clearly a political assassination akin to those of the 1960s leaders. Let's hope some light gets shed on this.
This was a professional hit.
He was discussing “mass shooting and gun control” when he was assassinated. Was he responding to a question from a person in the audience? If he was, that might have been the signal to “shoot.” That would be a person I would question.
I could have just made that up.
No you didn't I read that over here in the UK papers.
Ok. Good to know.
I read this a few times, ready to disagree, but you are right about the jar shakers. The hit was not some crazy tranny with a gun.
The only problem I see is that it’s nearly impossible to have the difficult talks with the left, with our so-called friends and family. This horrible event might be a chance, and I hope and pray that it is, to start the discussion, make inroads but they cancel us the second we say anything contrary to their beliefs.
Thank you for this.
I do agree that the distinctions are meaningless and we are all probably in danger of finding ourselves on the other side of the barbed wire if we delineate so explicitly. It really isn't a question of political orientation but of belonging. We are all born wanting to belong. And since WW2, and maybe WW1 here in Europe the sense of belonging has been being eroded. Slowly but surely, with each generation, we have lost the sense of belonging to one great creator, and our connection to our God(s) being through how treat each other. How we minister to each other. How we connect to the land, to our children, to the animals around us. How we heal. How we mourn. How we birth. How we die. We are each others conduit for connection.
But we are wading through a quagmire of fake connection and since 2020 have become the most disconnected that it is possible to be from each other, possibly to make space for AI to create an effective facsimile of what is left, because AI can't even begin to hit the highs of human beings at their best. And that is saying something. I thought that 2016 onwards was bad. But this is quite easily the worst that it has ever been.
But, tech dudes, God is in the machine because everything that this machine is made of is of God, (and this applies to whichever higher power you turn to). We are all made of the same dust.
So left and right is meaningless. It is simply the combined how of pain of the terribly disconnected trying to connect through the only medium the generations of modern warfare have been left with. The violence of words. Of meaningless, cruel, painful, horrible, contemptible words.
My sister and I are overcome with grief.
How do we explain such evil - such depravity of people who write such abhorrent comments.
“For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.”
Ephesians 6:12
That is it exactly, Laura. One of my favorite verses. And it’s not one of those pretty happy love everybody verses. it’s one about the absolute truth: that we are in a battle of good against evil. What evil doesn’t realize is that good will win in the end. it always does.
Indeed it does Donna.
Thank you, Laura. The time has arrived. It’s here in living colour. If one cannot or will not see, then we pray for their redemption.
Am I overcome with sadness, yes. Am I as angry as a rabid animal, indeed. Am I impulsive with my actions, NO, not this time.
Words are escaping me, but I can put one foot in front of the other and abide in His word today.
Beautiful comment Kat. 🙏🙏🙏
This completely sums up how I am feeling right now.
And this is how we continue - warfare against evil. But sometimes the “how do I do that” escapes us.
Is it righteous anger such as Jesus clearing the temple? Or agonizing beseeching prayers in the garden?
WWJD?
Perhaps both, Penny
Yes. Most definitely so.
Just grief stricken. A sad sad day. This is because he had a massive and ever- growing youth following. He was getting through to brainwashed university students. Makes me want to FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT all the more!!!
In two hours I’ll be at a Bible study group in a local church. I plan to summon the courage to ask everyone to join me in a prayer that that kept me up all night. Our hearts are broken.
Besides prayer, what else can we do to end this evil? Conservatives and Christians have to think about what we do and where go from here. Because it can’t be violence.
Charlie did everything right: he never insulted the other side. He let them talk and asked them questions and showed them respect. And still, the hate on the other side silenced him from even doing that. 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
I think it was more than hate. I think something very powerful saw him as a threat in need of being eliminated.
Whoever paid the assassin (it had to have been a professional hit as per two former FBI agents who have spoken out ), hated Charlie. Remember earlier this year when 55% of self identified Democrats said it would be acceptable to assassinate our president? And all the fans of Luige Mangione who celebrated the murder of the health company CEO? That behavior arises out of hate so strong it can only be described as satanic. Just last week, Tim Walz told a crowd that they would be celebrating Trump’s death at some point.
They don’t hate Charlie. They hate the Light that he shined.
Perhaps hate, or rage, has become a characteristic of the attitudes, thoughts, and actions of too many, but in my book it's pure brainwashing through social engineering.
We have to ask ourselves why anyone would hate a man of peace. Who paid for his murder? Someone consumed with hatred.
Or just threatened by the bottom line of a more independent and informed populace.
Charlie took a huge bite out of their control of young minds and colleges. They knew this would limit rallies on campuses going forward, which in turn limits our reach. They already have the campus captured inside the classrooms, but Charlie was fighting them from the outside and it was working. That was the motive I believe. Blaming it on the trans issues is just a red herring, which has an added bonus of stirring up more hate between us all on the side. Two for one in their minds.
I’m feeling the same as Jenna. I’m sad and angry that this tragedy occurred. I was glued to the TV yesterday and last evening, watching tribute after tribute to this courageous young man. My heart breaks for his wife and children. I’m so sad. I don’t understand how anyone can justify this evil behavior.
I still cannot believe it happened...and the number of people celebrating and making the "who's next" lists is beyond comprehension. It was horrifying enough when people were upset that Trump's assassin failed. But seeing that callous cruelty persist when young man - a husband and father with two young children in the prime of his life - is actually murdered in cold blood... how can anyone celebrate this? My heart goes out to his poor family. I fear deeply for our nation.
Absolutely
Humanity has lost their way and I will gladly make my circle ⭕️ smaller and smaller. I absolutely cannot be near the hateful hypocrites.
Charlie is (I can’t write “was”) a force of nature. Absolutely could have been President. And one of the best ever. I watch Charlie almost every day on RSV. We lost the “Saint of Freedom” yesterday. This heinous assassination is on par with MLK and RKF. I’m profoundly sad and angry. The Left just galvanized tens of millions of Americans to take our country back from the Globalists/Communists/Islamists. Trump must accelerate the demolition of the Deep State. Charlie’s vision for America will absolutely happen.
His organization may just have reached its “Turning Point” goal!
The left gleefully celebrates killing babies, of course they would celebrate the violent death of a pro-life champion. 😭
Well said, Momcat. Killing babies is merely a sport for them. Charlie was so right when he said something along these lines, get married, have babies= A happy life
I am not the same person I was yesterday…am feeling a deep sense of loss, strong feelings I didn’t expect. Not angry, not yet, maybe that will come, I don’t know.
Sorrow…so sorry for this country. Sorrow for Charly’s family.
Pray for our country
Richard, I feel the same. This hit me really hard and I’m not quite sure why. I cried over this and I am not a big crier. I think Charlie Kirk was a great man. I think his intelligence threatened a lot of people. This assassination is “ the straw that broke the camels back”. We’ve put up with so much and seen so much evil and the escalation of evil. I’m not sure I can tolerate much more. In fact, I am quite certain that I will not tolerate any more of this.
We all can share these feelings…at least we have that. There is consolation knowing you are not alone in this.
There is. I don’t have a social circle in person, so I have nobody to go run into the arms of and just cry together like I so deeply want to. Without this Substack, and C&C, I would not be able to express my grief in a communal way.
I am willing to bet without a doubt, there are many here who share the same sentiments.
The sense of community is reassuring.
I agree, Richard. I feel a profound paradigm shift in my being. I got very quiet yesterday. Something very important and good will arise.
God took Charlie home for a reason.
Pray for Charlie, Erika and their sweet children. 🙏❤️
Amen
'And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.' The words of Jesus Christ from John 6:40
Charlie Kirk was martyred for his beliefs. This will be his legacy and we all can honor it by continuing to speak out about our faith and our beliefs and against evil. We are in a spiritual battle and he was one of the leaders. The ripples created by his assassination will spread far and wide and spur more revival than the evil doers can even fathom at this point. May he rest in peace.
Thank you,Kathy. I needed to hear that.
Praying for Charlie’s family, for law enforcement to find this evil individual and any others involved and I’m hoping this will fuel an even greater uprising within the youth at college campuses across the whole nation!!
My heart is so sad and pissed off at the same time. 😞😡
I am heartbroken for his two precious babies... it's not okay!! And then the cold-blooded people that celebrate this tragedy... the cruelty takes my breath away. How can we live in a world with people like this?! 😔
I have no words. 💔💔💔💔💔
My only hope is that this tragedy galvanizes millions of others to pick up the message of civil disagreement.
Like Charlie, we need to talk with each other, explain our points of view, face the issues.
Yesterday we witnessed the cowardice of the intellectually weak.
🎯💔
I think we all need hugs. I haven't felt this emotional in a very, very long time.
This. I’m craving this so much. I’m visiting my son who just moved to the Austin area and neither he nor I know a single soul down here, (except he knows those he works with at his new job - but he said no one talks politics there.) I was craving a hug this morning. A shoulder to cry on.
I wish I knew you were here, I would have invited you to my event yesterday. Virtual hugs.
I’m here for at least two weeks more. Flight home is tentatively set for Sept 27
A sister group to the one I spoke for yesterday is holding a fundraiser on the 19th with Katie Hopkins. If you don’t know her she is hilarious! It’s part of her “batshit bonkers Britain tour“… You should go!🥰
Yes, I moved to South Dakota, which is a very, very welcome change from Minnesota, but I don't know anyone here.
I'm dreading needing to make one more trip to Austin to deal with my father's estate (that might be a little less annoying if I knew anyone in Austin).
Ditto 😩
Yes, yes, yes! "..the cowardice of the intellectually weak."