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Randy Althoff's avatar

Well said, Jenna. In the indomitable words of Jeff Childers (Coffee & Covid), "Let the man work!". 🦅

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KatWarrior's avatar

Indeed! I love the badass nun analogy. It's very appropriate for the season of Lent and forthcoming Resurrection of JC.

We as a society have no patience. Trump has plans and he put RFK Jr in place to implement. Let them do their work.

I too, will eat crow if appropriate! 😎🎯💯🔥🇺🇸🙏

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Laura Kasner's avatar

“Relative to what RFK Jr. is up against, I still believe he’s the good guy in this awful movie—he’s just trying not to get shivved.”

Thank you Jenna. Brilliant post.

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Flippin’ Jersey's avatar

I’m noticing a pattern here, immediate panic and histrionics.

Tariffs? The world is doomed! Recession! Depression! Let’s legislate use of tariffs after never even thinking about them before Trump!

RFK says measles vaccines are effective? He betrayed us! He’s deep state! Fire him now! I knew it, he’s a liar!

Epstein files? Where are they? Fire Bondi! Deep state wins again!

It’s ponderous. Calm the f-ck down. It’s been, respectively, 6 business days, 2 months and 3 months.

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Valerie's avatar

Couldn’t agree more. The hysteria around everything this administration does is exhausting. They want it to fail SO badly.

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Jamie's avatar

Seriously! I’ve taken a step back to paying much attention to any of it. Living blissfully unaware for the time being.

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MNI7's avatar

Yes! Wise decision - I’m doing the same :)). Enjoying the many victories we’ve seen already and ignoring the hysteria. I’m turning my attention to the beautiful spring unfolding everywhere - the best antidote to almost anything! 🙏🏼🌿🌸

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Flippin’ Jersey's avatar

I’m particularly impressed with our august Republican Senators and congressmen who have re-discovered their balls recently. “Trump is using tariffs indiscriminately and destroying the economy, he must be stopped!” (Aside to an aide): “Remind me what tariffs are and why we need to control them, quick, before Pelosi makes it an issue…”

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James's avatar

Trying to look at this objectively, in appearance and with the prior motives mentioned by MAHA and the Trump agenda, I think that decades of abuse of the people by the unelected ~~psychopaths~~ [I swear I wasn't going to do that lol] these things are going to take time to iron out [wanna put it upside a few heads]; I stand with Jenna's instincts on him being the good guy and we have to be patient while they flush [the toilet of corruption] out the rot and DS characters.

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Flippin’ Jersey's avatar

I agree wholeheartedly.

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Bradley Lewis's avatar

Yes, we're largely a society of Veruca Salts defiantly singing, "I want it now!"

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Jenna McCarthy's avatar

*sings entire song WHICH I KNOW BY HEART at the top of my lungs*

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Carrie R Meyer's avatar

Totally agree. I still ♥️ RFKJR. He didn't say: "And everyone go out and get the MMR," which former HHS officials would have. He just said it's the best way to prevent measles, which is not false. Getting the disease and then developing lifetime immunity is another route, but not one many people are willing to take. Plus, right after 2 kids die from complications following a measles infection is probably not the time or place. At least he didn't lecture us about the danger of remaining unvaccinated. That was a big deviation from the past and "2 points" for our side. Patience Grasshopper. Even if/when the truth about the risk/reward ratio is made known, many parents will still choose vacations. And that's OK. The realistic goal is to ensure that parents are given informed consent and that medical freedom exists, that vaccinations are a choice not a mandate, instead of annihilation of the entire vaccine program.

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Jenna McCarthy's avatar

🎯🎯🎯

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Tonee norman's avatar

But,that is a point that’s not being made loud enough. It was complications AFTER a measles infection that was misdiagnosed and incorrectly treated by the hospitals( according to Dr Kory,and,others) those children should not have died…It wasn’t actually measles that killed them. May they RIP.

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Fred's avatar

True, but we all know it, and the leftists won’t truly believe it anyway.

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Anna Lafferty's avatar

Amen!

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Zara's avatar

Carrie-what’s wrong with vacations? Haha:)

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MNI7's avatar

Double amen. And thank you!!!

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Baldmichael's avatar

The MMR vaccines is the best way to get poisoned. This will cause symptoms like rashes and high temperatures among other things. The medical profession will relabel things to avoid the finger being pointed at the vaccines.

So it is false to say getting the MMR vaccine will prevent measles.

People have been conditioned by the medics etc. that getting a so-called disease gives one immunity but this is also false.

People will still fall ill for various reasons and get similar symptoms but the medics can say it was something else, they are very clever at doing this and people still believe them.

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Jpeach's avatar

RFK Jr. is running through a mile long minefield. Trying to survive long enough to accomplish his MAHA goal. I am confident he will survive and MAHA.

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Roberta Stack's avatar

Agree as well! Great post Jenna! I’m forever hopeful about RFK Jr. He knows what he’s up against.

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Terry sue's avatar

I completely agree with you!!

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FREED0ML0VER's avatar

I think (hope) RFK Jr is gathering the information (evidence) he needs to drop the hammer on the pharmafia. This can't be done overnight.

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Janet's avatar

Well said. As another example of not walking off in a huff if things aren’t going your way, I belonged to a church for 25 years that had cult like behavior and dogma. Good people but we were deceived. That cut us off from a true relationship with God. The miracle that happened (and according to other church and religious history this NEVER happens but very rarely) was after the original church leadership died or left, the new came to the decision that we were wrong—On so many things and were extremely legalistic. That we had hung our salvation on the wrong hooks so to speak. Immediately 2/3 of the worldwide church left in a huff. They weren’t “special” anymore. I stayed because I knew something profound was going to happen. It took some time but that did happen. I was a part of it that changed my life, even though it felt terrible and scary at the time. Most who left considered it betrayal but then weren’t there to join in the spiritual change. God had a hand in that and I believe He does here too. He works in mysterious ways. I’m familiar with Bobby’s history. I support him and whatever timeframe it takes to make the changes he is uniquely prepared to undertake. Not getting all churchy but there is a kind of “faith” involved here as well.

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Jenna McCarthy's avatar

😊🙏💕

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MNI7's avatar

Love this!🙏🏼😊

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George Bredestege's avatar

He said he would force them to do the studies, look at the existing research and then act on the results. I expect he is doing just that. It’s easier to convince the masses with evidence than with lip service.

Patience is truly a virtue, try to be virtuous, folks.

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Eli's avatar

Yes. This. He needs to have the studies first. Then make recommendations based on the studies. Patience!

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Fred's avatar

🎯 Decades of (manipulated) “literature” right now reflects the narrative. We need actual research (that doctors I know are preemptively calling it faked, sight unseen). 🤬

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George Bredestege's avatar

There have been many, many studies buried by big pharma. He knows they are there, and has successfully sued those companies using that data. I’m very confident in RFKjr.

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Fred's avatar

True! The obvious fabrication of data during Covid was a huge wake up call. Wakefield was not wrong.

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Andy's avatar

Kennedy has earned my respect and trust. I stand by his day-to-day efforts. I guess people have been forsaken so many times by apparent crusaders that they’re willing to give up on someone at the drop of a hat. Kennedy fought, gloves-off, with Big Gov’t, Big Pharma, all the Big Guys. Stay the course Bobby!

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Tonee norman's avatar

Yes. I believe you are correct. We HAVE been betrayed by politicians almost never doing what they were elected to do. Keeping faith is difficult.

I’m not giving up on Secretary Kennedy.

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Tim Connolly's avatar

Nice Jenna. Come on people grow up! What binary world you live in is working out 100% for you? 100% all the time is an adolescent belief that is killing us. Engage discuss advocate win some lose some =progress. Takes some discipline and persistence instead of a few click clacks on your computer oh! the emoji rage! I'm encouraged by what RFK is doing so far. We've come a long way even to get this idea on the talking table.

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Tonee norman's avatar

Yes. Progress is not usually a straight line. I’m reminded of teaching horsemanship. My students had to learn the complicated mind,spirit,and,body of a prey animal,and,become one unit of motion,to be successful. It NEVER happened in a straight,upward,constantly winning fashion. More,up and down,and,sometimes no improvement occurs,and,then it DOES! Always,unless one quits…

Thank you for the reminder!

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MNI7's avatar

Adolescent tantrums - exactly what came to my mind as well - thank you!

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mike Myhre's avatar

Good points Jenna.

I think the most important ones are these:

1) RFK Jr said Measles vaccine is the most effective way to avoid measles. This is true. Compared to covid with a negative effectiveness, it is very close to 100% effective which is very good for vaccines. He didn't say that this was without harm or risk or that it was the only option. People heard what they wanted to hear.

2) If RFK Jr marched in and declared that all vaccines were banned or on moratorium, he would have had the whole system against him and be Epteined on day one. If he fires a bunch of people (he did) and asks the rest to explain why vaccines should or should not stay on the schedule, then the discussion begins on risk/benefit issues and he finds out who can be trusted and who can't. He then has a consensus of everyone (remaining) under him and he isn't alone in his decision. The scientific process reached that conclusion and it will stand up in court for every case to follow.

3) while I am always watching for how I may have been deceived, and don't want to make excuses for someone that fooled me, I do believe that his apparent strategy at this point is exactly what I would do. Play the long game and fight for the biggest win that will be undeniable.

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Baldmichael's avatar

Your points 2 and 3 are fair but as to 1 measles vaccines, like all vaccines, cause disease if anything. So it is not true measles vaccine is the most effective way to avoid measles.

https://baldmichael.substack.com/p/why-vaccines-do-not-work-in-a-nutshell?utm_source=publication-search

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mike Myhre's avatar

A better than 90% chance of never getting measles equates to one of the best ways to avoid measles. That is not taking into account that it may cause you to catch other diseases more often or side effects of the shot or that it is even a recommended option. It is a statement that is true for the limited scope of what it is claiming. The genius of the statement is to people who aren't listening closely, he appears to be pro measles vaccine so his voice is heard and he remains in office without stating anything against his core values.

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Baldmichael's avatar

Thanks for your reply. I don't know where you get 90% from. The quote from RFK jr as per the article above is “The most effective way to prevent the spread of measles is the MMR vaccine.”

This is an obvious lie. It doesn't mean I think he is not fighting to get rid of the toxic vaccines, but he should have said as I said elsewhere something like 'scientific consensus says...'. Not the whole truth but not patently false.

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mike Myhre's avatar

The numbers that have been known for years and undisputed are two doses provides 97% effective. No one is really doubting that claim (maybe you). Measles is a RNA negative-sense virus. That means it is a stable strain and a vaccine can be effective. Positive sense RNA virus can never have a successful vaccine even though they have been trying for years. They learned that there is more profit in making unsuccessful vaccines. These unstable RNA viruses include Influenza, Zika, Dengue Fever, Covid, Rinovirus (common cold) and many others. To vaccinate people for these viruses makes your chance of catching the real virus more severe and it causes further mutations each more contagious and less severe.

That isn't the key issue though. It is the side effects of the vaccines which we both agree on, makes it an option that carries more risk than benefit. That isn't to say that someone my benefit from it enough to to save their life and the side effects be worth it (elderly person who is going to come into contact with measles exposure in the next few months for example). Measles is highly contagious with 9 out of 10 people living together expected to catch it and a reproductive number of 12 to 18 where the flu and covid have been rated at a 2.

We both agree that the whole story needs to be told. You are disappointed that RFK Jr only told part of it and I call that strategic chess moves.

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We agree about the side effects of the vaccines and that the whole story needs to be told.

As to your last para, I did not indicate that I was disappointed that RFK Jr only told part of the story, I merely said the statement “The most effective way to prevent the spread of measles is the MMR vaccine” was a lie. Even Jenna makes that clear in her article, that is why so many are up in arms.

Strategic chess move maybe, I know that a long game is being played, but the point is that the statement is still a lie yet some like yourself are saying it is correct.

As to the rest of your reply what you have said is bollux. Firstly you don’t provide anything to back up your claim “the numbers that have been known for years and undisputed are two doses provides 97% effective.”

If after 5 years of the COVID nonsense you haven’t realised that people have been disputing this for decades then you are being very dim or trolling, ignoring what even Jenna has said in her article.

Lots of people are disputing the claim today, so suggesting only I dispute it is an infantile remark. You will find others in commenting like me on Jenna’s article as well as numerous other websites.

You clearly believe in the virology deceit that what is seen through an electron microscope is disease causing rather than, if anything, cellular waste arising from metabolism. The scam of virology is designed to make people scared of something they can’t see but the privileged few can who will then propose the solution, a toxic vaccine and/or drug.

Cellular waste will come in various shapes and sizes so gets used to pretend the so-called virus is mutating, a clever trick to frighten the naïve.

Cellular waste is not contagious but like any waste must be disposed of. Alleged measles contagion is only an appearance, not reality as appearances can be deceiving. The reproduction number is a statistical deception designed to give jobs to statisticians and help push the fear of a so-called deadly disease so that people clamour for a solution.

People living together is not a justification for saying they ‘caught a virus’ from each other as the whole circumstances of their environment must be considered.

Elderly people will gain nothing from any vaccine, but it will help make them sick if anything and give the medical profession the opportunity to profit further.

If they should die this will please the eugenicists.

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mike Myhre's avatar

If you put 100 vaccinated people are in a room with one person with measles, how many are expected to catch it? My research and personal observation says no more than 10.

If you put 100 unvaxxed people in a room with one person with measles, how many are expected to catch it? My research and personal observation says 90 people.

This doesn't discuss who are healthy later in life or who might die, just in which scenario there are less measles cases.

Also realize I am not promoting the vaccine or advocating anything on its behalf. Just pointing out the issue. If we get into Covid the numbers are completely opposite. As I described it is the positive sense RNA that can't be vaccinated against. They compare all vaccines to Small Pox and Measles because they are more stable and claim your covid or flu shot is the same. They are criminals.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Let the man work. corollary: Rome wasn't built in a day (tantae molis erat, Romanam condere gentem--my fave verse in Aeneid)

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

As a deeply personal matter, I need to say that your statement today is something I needed to read and reflect on. I was turning into an impatient MAHA supporter especially after reading that our beloved Bobby said that the best way to prevent measles was vaccination. I needed reminding. And now I see that he’s carefully making his way through a minefield in order to get us back to vaccine sanity. I guess I forgot just how long vaccine ideology has been around and how deeply rooted it is in our culture. In 2 generations, a lot of Americans have forgotten that childhood infectious diseases were always pretty safe if you were pretty healthy. So let the man work. I’m in. Thanks, Jenna, for your “shot”of common sense.

Fwiw, I had heard rumors about change.org. Now we know the truth.

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Jenna McCarthy's avatar

😊💕

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Zara's avatar

I am so happy you wrote this! I have been responding to substack pitch forkers maligning Rfk jr & attempting to justify their contempt. Your article will be spot on to share with the naysayers.

Poor Bobby has all sides spewing vitriol that he has endured for YEARS! He won’t will roll over. He has always been strong in his convictions & his pursuit of truth -and- I do not expect that to change.

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Jenna McCarthy's avatar

Thank you for sharing!😊💕

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JulieBelzeski's avatar

Excellent analysis; I agree completely. Longtime supporters of RFKJr know where he truly stands on these issues - but it will take time. He truly is like the principled nun on a mission in your analogy. Long term success demands short term strategies the Lord will surely forgive….and so should we.

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I’m digging my feet in right along side you, and love, love, LOVE all that you’ve pointed out in this article. I’ve been making some of these points to my former-RFKJr-loving friends for the past day and a half, and for sure all of the wisdom they may previously have thought I had is now totally suspect, as I continue to support EVERYTHING RFK Jr is doing.

I point out that RFK Jr needs to reassure not only the corrupt politicians in DC, but also the millions of people across the country who are totally frightened (due to buying in to corrupt media narratives) that the all-important vaccines they believe are literally necessary for humanity to survive aren’t going to be taken away from them. I point out that it’s fine if there are 4000 vaccines available on every street corner, as long as none of us has to actually take one of them. I point out that if he says that MMR vaccines are the best way to stop the spread, it might actually be true! (Per Aaron Siri’s testimony to the NH legislature (see thehighwire.com), it turns out that the measles vaccine is the one vaccine that actually prevents the measles, even though that might only be for a few seconds. - Hey, Jenna’s sense of humor is contagious! (There’s hope that my wishes to have that sense of humor in my next lifetime could actually come true.)

OK, he “forgot” to also say that it could be better for our health if we don’t stop the spread…. could that possibly be a strategic move? [Note: this is a very helpful Childers-style question to ask about everything RFK Jr says or doesn’t say, instead of moving at lightning speed to alternate wild speculations that aren’t supported by any available facts.].

Imagine, now that he’s made that truthful statement about the vaccine, and also omitted the important info about how easy and beneficial it is to recover from the measles naturally, what will happen after the results of the *new studies* that Bhattacharya and NIH have been tasked with doing right away are released with the promised *radical transparency*?

Those of us who are awake know that the new studies will show the same thing that the old studies have shown for decades - namely that natural immunity is far superior to the vaccines. And then RFK Jr will be able to say “Hey, looks like “we” were all blinded by the good features of vaccines” “but now we’ll need to change our CDC guidelines, which we’ll do IMMEDIATELY” - and that way insurance companies will have to drop their insane “capture” requirements, and all of the MDs who have let themselves be trapped in draconian requirements will be freed to practice medicine that improves their patient outcomes again. It will be much harder for the Rockefeller types at the top to re-capture the MDs after they’ve been set free in this face-saving way.

I’m stunned by RFK Jr’s brilliance as he navigates the space he’s operating in. He has clearly studied how to do this for many years, while also praying for God to help (or work through him), and he clearly has a brilliant mind guided by a very big/humble heart.

When are his followers going to wise up/rise up and get 100% behind him?

Do the quick-to-be-incensed MAHA protesters (“RFK Jr is betraying us! He must be being blackmailed!”) realize that these claims are only a little bit less irrational and destructive to our collective consciousness, (not to mention the zillions of hours wasted on spinning and buzzing over a highly speculative bruhaha) than those who let themselves be incited to key and burn Teslas?

I believe the Rockefeller types at the top of our medical establishment are fully aware that RFK Jr might actually succeed in his brilliant approach. One of their desperate “counter measures” seems to be tightened enforcement of the “capture” rules from the insurance industry - the rules that say MDs won’t be reimbursed for the health care they provide unless they also catch the patient in front of them up on every vaccine recommended by the CDC. (I know of a 10-yr-old who is terrified as she is being pummeled with vaccines her foster mother “trusts” she needs.).

Wouldn’t it be more helpful to our MAHA goals, and also more protective of our children, if we re-invest the hours spent scrutinizing and micro-managing what RFK Jr is doing, and instead launch massive protests against moves like the capture rules that the Rockefeller types are making? Just saying.

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Jenna McCarthy's avatar

ALL. OF. THIS. 🏆

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MNI7's avatar

YESSSSS!🙌🏼🙏🏼

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