Thank you for speaking on yet another subject that has often been taboo. As always, you have found the humor in it.
I had a dream/nightmare on the subject a few months back. I found myself in court before a judge for using the wrong pronouns on someone. The judge said: "How do you explain your self sir"?
I said: "Did you just address me with the wrong pronouns Judge?"
Besides being in a courtroom (I equate my local municipal building as enemy territory), I can't see any nightmarish quality about your dream... it seems more like a fantasy to me. Just say'n ;)
Constant Distraction! Go play outside, people. Take our devices and lock them up for 4 days. No tv, No phone, No computer, No candy, No cake. Only grass fed meats, No GMO vegetables, Drink Water. Talk with your children. Listen to your children. Go to their school and visit the teacher and help Students learn to read. Go to church service and listen and pray.
Simple. Simply simple. Your life will change! It’s called Peace!!!
It is interesting how some people just want to be told what to do all the time. They actually don't want free will or their own ideas; it can be scary. Then there are others that never want to be told and if you tell them, they will do the opposite.
Socialism can creep in easily with such current distractions. Those who like to be directed are so ripe minded they would follow the directions to line up for the next effort to depopulate. Sorry, I digress… I could rant way too much! Going to go pluck some weeds. Haha
the idea that a human being insists on the rest of us acknowledging either their sexual kink or belief that they are an animal or spirit whatever, in everyday interactions is simply untenable. didn't that used to be called psychopathy? like people got actual treatment for it. hey I'm all for 'you do you' as long as no one is harmed but whatever happened to keeping personal stuff personal? we really do need to draw a line in the sand, as a society.
It’s interesting that when the Pronoun Lords first started instituting them they refused to acknowledge or take serious anyone that did not specify them, and that was deemed acceptable.
Yet when the White House does the same thing, refusing to acknowledge or recognize anyone playing the pronoun game - suddenly this tactic is wrong? The Pronoun Junkies did it first. They can’t handle their own medicine.
At least the principles the White House stance are based on are logical - based on the demonstration that someone is not living in reality or walking in truth. Makes sense. The principles the Pronoun Overlords are based on are narcissistic and psychotic, and chaos inducing.
a lot of that 'rules for thee and not for me' shit going around. that and the 'inversion' mind game. feels like being in 1st grade again: 'I know you are, so what am I?'
Yes, like they/them was/were taught correct verb association and/or treated for multiple personality disorder. But now, as the Southern saying goes, “We don’t hide our crazy. We parade it around on the front porch and give it a cocktail!”
oh man the 'plural pronouns' for one person are about as nuts as they can get. I once heard the excuse for this that went something like: well your language doesn't work for us so we make do. made me wonder - YOUR language?? its all of our language, how about using it correctly.
Scratching me where I itch, Jenna. No, that ain't dirty. If I were hiring for a position, and resumes came in with pronouns listed, those would go into the shredder first. Adios, zee/zirs!
No sane person with a thread of dignity cares one lick about your stupid, insane, fecked up, made-up, childish pronouns.
Now, go back to your cave or safe space and grow up. Put your big girl pants on and start behaving like an adult. Otherwise, please stop taking up valuable space in the world!
For reasons I can't clearly explain, the word "performative" comes to mind. I think what I'm getting at is that the goofy pronoun thing isn't serious--it's about making anyone with a brain feel they are struggling to keep up--or simply to virtue-signal. But that's just the opinion of an aging he/him.
I always laugh when exposed to that nonsense, answered with a "let me know when you want to have an honest conversation." I absolutely refuse to entertain their make-believe alternate universe.
I am limiting myself to two comments, to give the comments-reading public a needed break.
Firstly, no one asked before inflicting "preferred job titles" on the rest of us. (You can't be an "influencer" because there's no such thing. Ditto "stay-at-home dad.")
Secondly, you unearthed something with your probing article--for which thank you in passing--but didn't expand on: is narcissism a sign of radical liberalism, or equally likely, is radical liberalism a sign of narcissism?
Nelson, out.
[Your temptations to comment further are in vain; I am Rock.]
We have to acknowledge narcissism as part of our development-- it's just a matter of that being kept in check as I do think there is "healthy" narcissism in terms of kids needing affirmation/encouragement (to varying degree of course) versus the development of "unhealthy" narcissism that manifests as pure ego and/or excessive self-absorption because of some form of a glaring lack in a person's development. Obviously, this is very general, but it's pretty clear to me that modern existence, and especially our society, feeds and rewards an egocentric and atomistic paradigm over a cooperative and synergistic one.
Certainly takes narcissism to have confidence but think more on an elemental level. Narcissism, at core, is basic self-worth, self-esteem, but at a more fundamental level it's more akin to self-protection & survival. Even at the most basic level our bodies protect against foreign elements-- organ transplants are a problem because the transplant is not "me" and my system will attack it. Just the admittance of foreign proteins into the blood can lead to devastating reactions.
Narcissism shouldn't really have a purely negative connotation because we really cannot function without it. It's just the excessive aspect of self-absorption (Narcissus) that morphs into delusions of grandeur with loss of psychological reality checks that is pathological. I think the insistence of demanding others conform to one's personal wishes (in this case the pronoun fiasco) is largely an overcompensation from those who have lacked, or were previously low on, self-esteem but who have now been emboldened to act out due to a twisted cultural paradigm that has tried to elevate the victim to the status of hero.
Why are so many men, including those who are opposed to the whole idea of transgenderism, willing to say “she” and “her” when speaking of trans women? I ask because I’m troubled over Mark Crispin Miller’s Substack this morning in which he consistently referred to a man who imagines himself to be a woman as “she” and “her.”
Here’s an idea. Respond to any dude pretending to be female who wishes to be addressed as “she/her”with the newly-made-up pronoun “SHER”, as in “SURE, dude, whatever…by the way, your fly is open…”
I’m curious as to why it doesn’t bother you. Trans women are in reality biologically not women. It’s imaginary, it’s aberrant and has become the pathway for biological men to demand all the rights women have fought for in sports and in privacy. All the clothes and makeup in the world won’t change any guy’s DNA.
Only because it is a pre-existing pronoun. It’s not forcing me to adopt a new language. Do I believe she is an actual woman? No. I guess I’m just choosing my battles here…
Agree, Mary Ann. A trans “woman” is no different than someone identifying as a dog & wearing muzzle, collar & leash. That person is not a dog & the tranny is not a woman. If we pretend they are, that gives fuel to take over women’s sports.
This conversation started on Jeff Childer's Substack this morning after one reader told this old joke: two professors were sitting next to each other on a flight to the U.S., an American and a Soviet. The American asked the Soviet why he was coming to America. He answered that he was coming here to study American propaganda. And the American professor said, "What propaganda?" The irony of it for me was that even Mark Crispin Miller, whom I have always regarded as our premier expert on propaganda, didn't see that he was caught up in that net that the old joke above refers to.
Disagree. Sorry (not sorry…stealing from you). Not that I’ll ever have to address him (pretty sure we’ll never cross paths), but to me Jenner remains the real man he was when appearing on the Wheaties box in ‘78. What he is today, um, I see him as a Col. Maxwell Q. Klinger caricature.
I cannot think of one good reason to reinforce someone’s destructive fantasy by participating in their charade.
Don’t feel too terribly bad, Steve! My feline has me completely wrapped around her tail and turns her nose away from tuna…she’d rather have SALMON! (I didn’t have her for her first 14 years!)
Thank you for speaking on yet another subject that has often been taboo. As always, you have found the humor in it.
I had a dream/nightmare on the subject a few months back. I found myself in court before a judge for using the wrong pronouns on someone. The judge said: "How do you explain your self sir"?
I said: "Did you just address me with the wrong pronouns Judge?"
Judge: "What are your pronouns?"
Me: "Your grace/Your majesty".
Judge: "I didn't now you were born into royalty"
Me: "So how you are born makes a difference?"
Judge: "Excuse me?"
Me: "Please your honor. Address me correctly"
Judge: "Court dismissed"
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Also brilliant!
Love it
As the song states, "dreams can come true..."
Bravo!!Assuming you are a dude, because I believe if you identify further as a dame, it would be Brava! I’m so confused.
Besides being in a courtroom (I equate my local municipal building as enemy territory), I can't see any nightmarish quality about your dream... it seems more like a fantasy to me. Just say'n ;)
Constant Distraction! Go play outside, people. Take our devices and lock them up for 4 days. No tv, No phone, No computer, No candy, No cake. Only grass fed meats, No GMO vegetables, Drink Water. Talk with your children. Listen to your children. Go to their school and visit the teacher and help Students learn to read. Go to church service and listen and pray.
Simple. Simply simple. Your life will change! It’s called Peace!!!
It is interesting how some people just want to be told what to do all the time. They actually don't want free will or their own ideas; it can be scary. Then there are others that never want to be told and if you tell them, they will do the opposite.
Socialism can creep in easily with such current distractions. Those who like to be directed are so ripe minded they would follow the directions to line up for the next effort to depopulate. Sorry, I digress… I could rant way too much! Going to go pluck some weeds. Haha
Of Course! Common sense.
Amen - preach it sister 🙏👏
the idea that a human being insists on the rest of us acknowledging either their sexual kink or belief that they are an animal or spirit whatever, in everyday interactions is simply untenable. didn't that used to be called psychopathy? like people got actual treatment for it. hey I'm all for 'you do you' as long as no one is harmed but whatever happened to keeping personal stuff personal? we really do need to draw a line in the sand, as a society.
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It’s interesting that when the Pronoun Lords first started instituting them they refused to acknowledge or take serious anyone that did not specify them, and that was deemed acceptable.
Yet when the White House does the same thing, refusing to acknowledge or recognize anyone playing the pronoun game - suddenly this tactic is wrong? The Pronoun Junkies did it first. They can’t handle their own medicine.
At least the principles the White House stance are based on are logical - based on the demonstration that someone is not living in reality or walking in truth. Makes sense. The principles the Pronoun Overlords are based on are narcissistic and psychotic, and chaos inducing.
a lot of that 'rules for thee and not for me' shit going around. that and the 'inversion' mind game. feels like being in 1st grade again: 'I know you are, so what am I?'
...and an old Marxist tactic!
Agreed!
Yes, like they/them was/were taught correct verb association and/or treated for multiple personality disorder. But now, as the Southern saying goes, “We don’t hide our crazy. We parade it around on the front porch and give it a cocktail!”
oh man the 'plural pronouns' for one person are about as nuts as they can get. I once heard the excuse for this that went something like: well your language doesn't work for us so we make do. made me wonder - YOUR language?? its all of our language, how about using it correctly.
Social media happened and it fed their egos...
Scratching me where I itch, Jenna. No, that ain't dirty. If I were hiring for a position, and resumes came in with pronouns listed, those would go into the shredder first. Adios, zee/zirs!
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Joining the 'unlucky resumes ' in the garbage receptacle- ala 'The Office' with Ricky Gervais?
No one cares about how you identify!
No sane person with a thread of dignity cares one lick about your stupid, insane, fecked up, made-up, childish pronouns.
Now, go back to your cave or safe space and grow up. Put your big girl pants on and start behaving like an adult. Otherwise, please stop taking up valuable space in the world!
^^ bam!
For reasons I can't clearly explain, the word "performative" comes to mind. I think what I'm getting at is that the goofy pronoun thing isn't serious--it's about making anyone with a brain feel they are struggling to keep up--or simply to virtue-signal. But that's just the opinion of an aging he/him.
Well said. Folks can believe whatever they want. They just can’t force me to also believe it.
My sentiments exactly! My grandson says this means I am intolerant. Whatever.
I always laugh when exposed to that nonsense, answered with a "let me know when you want to have an honest conversation." I absolutely refuse to entertain their make-believe alternate universe.
As usual, another great column, Jenna. You are truly a gift to man..er, wom..ah, homo sapienkind.
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I am limiting myself to two comments, to give the comments-reading public a needed break.
Firstly, no one asked before inflicting "preferred job titles" on the rest of us. (You can't be an "influencer" because there's no such thing. Ditto "stay-at-home dad.")
Secondly, you unearthed something with your probing article--for which thank you in passing--but didn't expand on: is narcissism a sign of radical liberalism, or equally likely, is radical liberalism a sign of narcissism?
Nelson, out.
[Your temptations to comment further are in vain; I am Rock.]
What an interesting question! (Second comment)
Don't quit now David, you are onto something.
We have to acknowledge narcissism as part of our development-- it's just a matter of that being kept in check as I do think there is "healthy" narcissism in terms of kids needing affirmation/encouragement (to varying degree of course) versus the development of "unhealthy" narcissism that manifests as pure ego and/or excessive self-absorption because of some form of a glaring lack in a person's development. Obviously, this is very general, but it's pretty clear to me that modern existence, and especially our society, feeds and rewards an egocentric and atomistic paradigm over a cooperative and synergistic one.
Confidence vs. narcissism?
Certainly takes narcissism to have confidence but think more on an elemental level. Narcissism, at core, is basic self-worth, self-esteem, but at a more fundamental level it's more akin to self-protection & survival. Even at the most basic level our bodies protect against foreign elements-- organ transplants are a problem because the transplant is not "me" and my system will attack it. Just the admittance of foreign proteins into the blood can lead to devastating reactions.
Narcissism shouldn't really have a purely negative connotation because we really cannot function without it. It's just the excessive aspect of self-absorption (Narcissus) that morphs into delusions of grandeur with loss of psychological reality checks that is pathological. I think the insistence of demanding others conform to one's personal wishes (in this case the pronoun fiasco) is largely an overcompensation from those who have lacked, or were previously low on, self-esteem but who have now been emboldened to act out due to a twisted cultural paradigm that has tried to elevate the victim to the status of hero.
In complete agreement. Thank you (from one grammar-lover to another).
It’s also ‘look at me, aren’t I special’, a controlling type of narcissism.
Agree!
Why are so many men, including those who are opposed to the whole idea of transgenderism, willing to say “she” and “her” when speaking of trans women? I ask because I’m troubled over Mark Crispin Miller’s Substack this morning in which he consistently referred to a man who imagines himself to be a woman as “she” and “her.”
Here’s an idea. Respond to any dude pretending to be female who wishes to be addressed as “she/her”with the newly-made-up pronoun “SHER”, as in “SURE, dude, whatever…by the way, your fly is open…”
Or, get them into therapy PDQ. Realty is a good place to live. 😁
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I have no problem with referring to Caitlyn Jenner as she/her… It’s all the neopronouns that make me spin.
I’m curious as to why it doesn’t bother you. Trans women are in reality biologically not women. It’s imaginary, it’s aberrant and has become the pathway for biological men to demand all the rights women have fought for in sports and in privacy. All the clothes and makeup in the world won’t change any guy’s DNA.
Only because it is a pre-existing pronoun. It’s not forcing me to adopt a new language. Do I believe she is an actual woman? No. I guess I’m just choosing my battles here…
Agree, Mary Ann. A trans “woman” is no different than someone identifying as a dog & wearing muzzle, collar & leash. That person is not a dog & the tranny is not a woman. If we pretend they are, that gives fuel to take over women’s sports.
This conversation started on Jeff Childer's Substack this morning after one reader told this old joke: two professors were sitting next to each other on a flight to the U.S., an American and a Soviet. The American asked the Soviet why he was coming to America. He answered that he was coming here to study American propaganda. And the American professor said, "What propaganda?" The irony of it for me was that even Mark Crispin Miller, whom I have always regarded as our premier expert on propaganda, didn't see that he was caught up in that net that the old joke above refers to.
I saw that on C&C too
It’s much trickier when the person is your own grandkid. Ask how I know?
Or a woman’s DNA trying to be a man.
Disagree. Sorry (not sorry…stealing from you). Not that I’ll ever have to address him (pretty sure we’ll never cross paths), but to me Jenner remains the real man he was when appearing on the Wheaties box in ‘78. What he is today, um, I see him as a Col. Maxwell Q. Klinger caricature.
I cannot think of one good reason to reinforce someone’s destructive fantasy by participating in their charade.
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/1978-flashback-bruce-jenner-wheaties-and-the-117171767386.html
https://mash.fandom.com/wiki/Maxwell_Q._Klinger
...and the blasphemy (for me at least. I believe God created us male and female and that is a good thing) - like the Almighty screwed up somehow.
100% Agree! God does not make mistakes.
He will always be Bruce to me. I never buy into another's delusional. Nothing could ever make me do it.
I don’t give it any thought and I don’t play the pronoun game. Just seems so stupid to me.
Not related to pronouns, BUT my heart goes out to the cats that decided to own ladies (and gentlemen) who can't stand the smell of tuna fish. Yikes!
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Don’t feel too terribly bad, Steve! My feline has me completely wrapped around her tail and turns her nose away from tuna…she’d rather have SALMON! (I didn’t have her for her first 14 years!)
That.Was.Brilliant.
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