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Dr. Molly Rutherford's avatar

We should NEVER need exemptions for a medical intervention, especially when the maker of the product has no liability for injury. Clown world

Warrior Mom's avatar

you basically said it all in one sentence, my dear! 1000%!!

Meddling Kid's avatar

Exactly. Them “exempting” us from something they invented illegally, something we are rightfully not subject to in any way, is invalid on its face.

In other words, f’em.

Liz LaSorte's avatar

"My body, my choice" is only for free people.

Jennifer L.'s avatar

Liz LaSorte, speaking of that did you see the X post picture of the nasty governor of NY, Kathy Hochul, donning muslim garb to talk to the islamic community? For her it was “my body, my choice until a muslim man tells me otherwise.”🙄

Teresa Parmenter's avatar

Yes, saw that and I believe she should have covered her entire face with whatever that cover is called with only the eyes exposed. She’s fugly from the inside out.

MS's avatar

A face like that should wear some pants.

Liz LaSorte's avatar

I did and thought, wow, that’s a good look for someone who would call me an Islamophobe: https://lizlasorte.substack.com/p/stop-calling-us-islamophobes?r=76q58

Juju's avatar

More people need to start realizing that a real phobia is irrational. There is nothing irrational about fearing Islam with the evidence we have both from history and before us today.

So the term is simply to shame people into silence and compliance.

Get loud

Jennifer L.'s avatar

Juju, years ago I read that CAIR invented and/or promoted the term “islamophobia”. Probably took their cues from the success the Alphabet Mafia was having with “re-defining” language to make homosexuality the norm and to berate those who spoke the truth about sodomite behavior.

MaryAnn's avatar

Cultural appropriation? Or did she convert? Similar to Nan-shee P kneeling with the scarf around her shoulders. So much virtue signaling.🙄🙄

SHug's avatar

Yeah, the originators of the REAL Handmaid's Tale - but never mind all that!

Jewell's avatar

And the Mayor of the City of Phoenix did the same thing.

Samwise's avatar

Vaccines are not a medical intervention, they are a religious sacrament.

N. Walker's avatar

hmmm...exempting vaccine manufacturers from all liability, yet no exemptions for those refusing to take them. What happened to government of the people, by the people and for the people?

Richard schoenenberger's avatar

Our leaders are back from summer break…we’ve got that going for us 🤸‍♂️

Skenny's avatar

Their (not really on) recess is like a government shutdown... difficult to notice any difference.

Valerie Leger's avatar

If the Amish are targeted and concidered a menace, the rest of us are definetly in trouble. Our government over reach is very serious business. We should not be forced to take medicine or vaccine that is untested, questionable and only backed with manipulated data with no accountability for untruths and incurred injuries. Thats the definition of insanity. When autonomy is considered a crime we no longer live in a free country.

The Amish are being targeted because of their autonomy and sacred belief system. They are the control group on many levels and destroy all destructive narratives. Faith, Family, Community, Health, conservation, farming/food practices they exemplify what American values were lost except within their ethos. Because they are so dedicated they are a threat to the enroaching Islamist influence as well, they cannot be brainwashed. I also believe their land is involved in the equation. If they willingly leave and I hope they won’t what would fill the vacuum. WHO BENEFITS and WHAT MONEY is behind this. Someone is after their land. THIS IS A DISGRACE!

Dan McCarthy's avatar

Unlike 90% of the rest of society, the Amish have a backbone and something they actually believe in. Bring it on, politicians. You're finally messing with people who don't care about your "yummy free hamburger" or indeed your krispy kremes or even your travel bans.

Nancy Benedict's avatar

During Covid here in Lancaster County, PA, the Amish were my rock of sanity. When I told my Amish roofer to please not tell anyone, but our whole family got together for Thanksgiving in 2020, he laughed and said, "I was just at a wedding with 700 people." Another Amish contractor had a first cousin in his 40's admitted to the hospital with Covid. His mother smuggled in some Ivermectin in his bologna sandwich. He realized the hospital was not helping him, checked out and recovered at home. A local doctor estimated that the Amish reached herd immunity in March of '21. They were the safest people to be around and remain so, regardless of the current measles scam from our esteemed governor.

LisaR's avatar

This is from Stand for Health Freedom about PA changes: Submit a public comment before September 21, 2026 by emailing the Pennsylvania Department of Health (details and email address below)!

You do not have to be an attorney, physician, or policy expert to comment.

You may comment as a parent, grandparent, health professional, taxpayer, business owner, patient, or concerned Pennsylvania resident.

You may address one issue or several.

Personal, individually written comments are especially valuable.

Comments may be emailed to both the PA Department of Health AND the Independent Regulatory Review Commission (IRRC).

Pennsylvania Department of Health:

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Important: Comments submitted during the regulatory process may become part of the public record. DO NOT include private medical information or other personal details you do not want made public.

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The proposal raises questions about:

Broad disease-control powers based on suspected illness or exposure

Access to students during disease investigations without clearly stated parental safeguards

Exclusion of children from school and the scope of Department authority

Access to medical information and expanded reporting requirements

New authority involving animals, food products, property, and suspected contamination

Removal of an existing religious accommodation for spiritual treatment

Expanding the discretion of unelected officials without sufficiently clear limits or oversight

Your public comment can be as long or as short as you would like. Some people are commenting simply that they disagree while others are including a reason or two. Use the ideas above to help get you started and flesh out your own comment! You can also find the comments already published on the IRRC’s website if you’re a curious mind.

Bridget's avatar

Thanks for posting this!

Bill Rice, Jr.'s avatar

They probably reached herd immunity in February 2020. The novel coronavirus was spreading widely in America by October 2019, per my research into “Early Spread.”

MrPeanut's avatar

I was likely here much earlier too. My family often visits Moab UT frequently and a lot of Chinese tourists go through there. They were slammed with a weird mystery flu around Thanksgiving. This was well before the covid hysteria and lock downs and nonsense.

Baldmichael's avatar

I am glad the Amish were there to bolster you but there's no such thing as herd immunity as defined by mainstream doctors, just living well which the Amish do.

https://baldmichael.substack.com/p/how-to-achieve-herd-immunity-wikipedia?utm_source=publication-search

Jewell's avatar

Are you seriously relying on wikipedia for scientific expertise?

Baldmichael's avatar

No, I rely on it for amusement and to provide a framework for some posts. Did you bother to check my profile, read my post or do you just look at comments superficially?

Jewell's avatar

I was and am too exhausted from being in pain to read your substack fully. It was all I could do to read Jenna's this morning.

Baldmichael's avatar

I am very sorry to here you are in pain Jewell. I can only say I pray you find relief.

KC & the Sunshine's avatar

I don’t care if it’s proven that putting ketchup on your hot dog eliminates all disease and illness, forever. No one should be made to put anything into their body, forever any reason— not even ketchup.

Dee Smith's avatar

Great report, Jenna! I have a request. Would you please loan me some of your energy? You have to be the most energetic Substacker I’ve ever seen. Keep up the great work!

MaryAnn's avatar

I live near an Amish community. They are not all that different from us—just want to live their lives in peace, worshipping as they are called.

I remember an Amish gentleman was asked why they choose to not take shots, aka vaccines—this was during the vid. He replied (paraphrasing), When God says it is time for me to come home, no medicine is going to stop me from getting there. I needed to hear that truth in those dark days of mandates and lockdowns.

SHug's avatar

The only reason I would even step foot in the nasty, over-govern-dem-mented NY state these days, is to the assist/support the Amish, with whatever they need.

FINE NY & PA STATE Governors FOR SUBJECTING THE AMISH TO PERSECUTION & HARM!!!

Mojo 138's avatar

Back the Amish.

Kathy Christian's avatar

They should expect an exit tax. If the state can't get the fine money, they'll impose an exit tax.

MLisa's avatar

I think it's goes deeper. NY wants the land for Data Centers. If the Amish leave, there will be large parcels of land (bought cheap by the state) with access to abundant water. I don't think this has anything at all to do with vaccines. Just my opinion.

Double Mc's avatar

I was kind of thinking along the same lines. It's a land grab, pure and simple.

Gbo's avatar

2 birds killed with 1 stone, in play here. Nice catch!

Patti F's avatar

I believe it's a combination of a land grab and wanting to destroy the control group.

Jennifer L.'s avatar

MLisa, I am not so sure about the data centers but I do believe the globalist elites want to destroy any farming that is not corporate owned. Also figure NY is in deep financial trouble with their richer population moving out so they will squeeze all they can out of anyone they can threaten and intimidate.

Juju's avatar

The global elites are following the communist playbook which requires destroying both God and the family as the center of one’s life, and religious institutions that conflict with what they want to do. They cannot have anyone legitimately giving God a higher authority than them, and the Amish have succeeded in placing God’s authority ahead of everything else in this life better than anyone, resisting the temptations of modern society to the extremes. But that’s their right to do even if some of their beliefs stray a bit from my own, they have sound logic and reasoning that I can respect and they don’t impose their way of life on everyone else. They live peacefully. (Well, most do, there are always exceptions to any group of people.)

Freedom and liberty gives them the right to practice their faith, so long as it’s not demanding everyone else follows the same.

Muslims claim to be the same, but they aren’t. They want everyone to adhere to Sharia Law, even when it conflicts with our Constitution. If they only cared to do that for themselves and do it quietly and peacefully, without discriminating against and harming their women and children, I might feel less objection. The contrast between Amish and Islam couldn’t be more stark.

Reason Together's avatar

Destroying farm land for solar as well. There is a destructive push for it in NY

Jewell's avatar

It's a modern day ("Indigenous People" even though they are not) robbing of their land for bobbles.

Julia's avatar

You are probably right! Omg 😱

Illusivillusion's avatar

I've come to realize after living in many places outside of NY that people who don't live in NY get all their NY information from conspiracy and not much of any actual real true information involved. And those that dissagree, cant argue it because their only educated in conspiracy.

Illusivillusion's avatar

Oh? Yeah definitely, the same NY who just banned any more data centers being built here… Makes senses

Jpeach's avatar

Hochul and Shapiro were probably instructed to eliminate “The Control Group” by their Big Pharma handlers. But, this strategy will backfire since it will create more public awareness how a vaccine and drug free lifestyle, leads to dramatically better health outcomes.

Laura Kasner's avatar

When Shapiro challenged Bobby on aborted fetal cells in the MMR vaccines, Bobby schooled everyone with the “godfather of vaccines” Stanley Plotkin’s admission of that fact during his deposition.

https://x.com/RobertKennedyJr/status/2092441234581160251?s=20

What kind of person chuckles when asked about aborted babies tongues being in the fetal cell lines. 😢😢😢

Nancy Benedict's avatar

There are calls for Shapiro to resign. That may gain traction.

MarciaT's avatar

I remember Shapiro as being the guy who had Zelenskyy during a visit to the Scranton Army Ammunition Plant in Pennsylvania - and they were writing on the shell casings things like Glory to Ukraine. Nice guy - no?

Laura Kasner's avatar

My friend reminded me of that. Says a lot, doesn’t it.

Jpeach's avatar

His Presidential hopes for 2028 are over. He’s just trying to cash in as Governor, by making his Handlers happy.

Sara Bush's avatar

Cognitive dissonance on full display. The esteemed leaders of society will completely ignore science based reality in order to enforce their agenda of compliance to state rule. If I had the money, I would pay the fines and say, “Bring it on.”.

Richard schoenenberger's avatar

Unbelievable how they never fail to step in it.

John Baker's avatar

As Jenna pointed out, the Amish aren’t a scientifically perfect control group, randomly assigned to matching boxes in a Latin Square, but they are close enough to it to be a threat to anyone with common sense.

The lack of enough people with common sense is what Kathy Hochul’s regime is counting on.

Pastor Mike's avatar

What more do you expect from Hijab Hochul?

MS's avatar
Sep 1Edited

Jihadi Kati

Phillips Advisory Letter's avatar

An EMP pulse detonates at high altitude over the American heartland.

It's lights out for society.

No web, no phones, no juice.

The Amish: "Huh?"

Richard schoenenberger's avatar

Certainly thought provoking…entirely possible.

DJL's avatar
Aug 31Edited

It is reprehensible what Pennsylvania and New York are doing to the Amish communities. We all need to spread the word and stand up for these people because you know the mainstream media isn’t going to report on it. The demons are in full force here coming against Christian group. You can clearly see the struggle of good against evil. That is simply what this is: good against evil. We all need to start a GoFundMe page for the Amish.

Meddling Kid's avatar

Please, get used to saying Give-Send-Go, not GoFundMe.

Give-Send-Go is a Christian organization.

GoFundMe is a demonic organization that promotes trannies and pedo grooming, and occasionally shuts down fundraisers for Christian causes.

Esther Cook's avatar

Not to mention that Give-Send-Go was created during the Covid hysteria, when GoFundMe violated its contract when used as a fundraiser for the Canadian truckers.

Jennifer L.'s avatar

Meddling Kid, you are exactly right. I have an alternative name GoFMe since that is what happens to those giving $ to that platform.

Warrior Mom's avatar

I would donate to that. but if Siri is on the legal case, it stands to reason that donating to ICAN would serve the same purpose.

Sue Grinius-Hill's avatar

Completely agree...I think a give send go across America for the Amish is a great idea. There are millions of people who want them to be left alone and happy. I think of their support to NC flood victims and this hideous government overreach makes me so mad; I want to cry.

Warrior Mom's avatar

I can't wrap my head around the mental gymnastics it must take for anyone to see these absurd 'fines' on Amish schools and think: 'yeah, that sounds fair and makes sense.' to even contemplate such insanity one must have 'conflict of interest' in a visible thought bubble above one's head.

if Siri can't win this one (stunned it went THIS far!), no one can and we are fracking doomed! I mean come on... how many Amendments is this bullshit in conflict with? dummy me can count at least 3. (*head slap*)

Heather B's avatar

It's both Tyranny disguised as concern and DESTROY THE CONTROL GROUP. If they lose their court case it's basically over for health freedom for all of us. I love the Amish for many reasons, but this harrassment of them is insane. Thanks for shining the light. 💕

Meddling Kid's avatar

I don’t think they get it yet.

Right to freedom is from God, we follow His rules, not yours.

Violation of those rights is cause for us to JUSTIFIABLY shoot you in the face if you threaten to arrest or imprison us (which is kidnapping, which God does sanction with the death penalty) for directly refusing a needle or fining, stealing property because of unpaid fines, etc.

This is war.

John Poland's avatar

Here's the side question you raise: How does one survive in a steadily declining society without becoming a victim of it? Two hundred years ago most everyone would have responded as you suggest. What do we do now that we are surrounded by masses of propagandized, compliant cowards who will not muster even the slightest bit of peaceful resistance to mandates, let alone pushing back forcefully?

They are drowning us in a slowly rising tide of illegal aliens (though Trump has at least temporarily stopped this), brainwashed young people and unrelenting pressure on every side to conform. How do you survive when 90% of the people out there are willing to pay the taxes they use to fund the swat teams that get off on shooting your dogs, terrorizing your children and hauling you off to prison for posting "mean tweets" that some muslim took as a threat? Not quite here yet, but the norm in UK and Germany. Coming soon.

I have not found any real answer to this. The prepper / survival crowd has nothing but a lot of big talk about armed resistance. They will collapse like a straw house in a tornado when the government trucks roll up to their house at 3am. The truth crowd is right to keep talking about it and getting the word out, but will it be enough to turn the massive tide? Maybe, but how long can that good 10% last? Not trying to be a black pill, but long term it looks very bad.

Meddling Kid's avatar

It’s the short-term I’m concerned about.

The long-term definitely gets worse. It must get worse. Read Revelation.

But we win in the end.

Jen's avatar

Excellent questions.. no answers here, but looking for the same answers myself.

Skenny's avatar

Shapiro: "Well, it sounds like it could have been true. And if it encourages people to get vaccinated, then it's a noble lie. Right, Pfizer and Dr. Fauci?"

Tim Pallies's avatar

That "Candlelit dinner" meme is the funniest thing I've seen in Months--and maybe years!!!🤣🤣🤣

MarciaT's avatar

I'm still laughing at kids "chained to a box of Kleenex." I don't know how she does it - but it's why I keep reading her - we all need to laugh more and get upset less - although this column about that sanctimonius twit Hochul and that brainless but evil wonder Shapiro also made my blood boil. . . . .

David Baldwin's avatar

I busted out laughing at that, too! But you know, Jenna is right! Is there anyone we could ask? Now I won't go to sleep unless I find out!

Steven Bradford's avatar

Here we are yet again, faced with a scenario where a politician shills for the interests of his largest benefactors, corporations, over the interests of his individual constituents. This is a huge problem and is happening more and more ever since the citizens united ruling by Scotus. If Americans want to flip the script and make politicians accountable to their constituents rather than just their largest corporate benefactors, Citizens United ruling must be overturned.

Jennifer L.'s avatar

Steven Bradford, an internet search of Citizens United brings up page after page of far left sites hollering about it. Yet in the maze comes this from Vox:

“But as many legal scholars have argued, the floodgates were already open. Citizens is not responsible for the massive amounts of money showered on favored candidates. Nor is it responsible for the rise of so-called dark money in politics.”

https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2018/5/7/17325486/citizens-united-money-politics-dark-money-vouchers-primaries

Sue Grinius-Hill's avatar

Yes! So much damage done!

Ludmila Lavrova's avatar

I support the Amish. Perhaps it would be better for children to be homeschooled. Incidentally, Nobel Prize winner, genius, great scientist, and human rights activist Andrei Sakharov was homeschooled; he never attended school.

Richard schoenenberger's avatar

Probably the gift of being a genius may have helped.

Tatyana Monakhova's avatar

Andrei Dmitrievich Sakharov had intelligent parents, so he was taught by private tutors.

St. Alia the Knife's avatar

I have said for many years that perhaps the Amish had the right idea. Our family doc told me a long time ago that God did not create us to be sitting in traffic and stuck in cubicles under fluorescent lights all day long. He designed us to be wandering around the Garden of Eden, naming animals. He told me that if he could write prescriptions for his patients to go to some tropical island and walk around, picking their food off of trees and bushes, 90% + of their symptoms would go away. He said this back in the 1990s; I would say the nation's health has become exponentially worse since then.

Maybe the Amish have the right idea. Maybe they are "living in an Amish Paradise"!*

*credit to Weird Al

Mrs. "the Knife"

Jay SDG's avatar

That's right. God did design us for Eden. But the doctor left out an important detail that changed everything: sin entered the world.

Jan's avatar
Aug 31Edited

Maybe the measles freak out is trying to minimize a malpractice case of a newborn infant with a ruptured spleen or something else “modern medicalized and tech inovated child birth” has brought us. I want to know more about that. Sorry if I seem suspicious. After all, in some places abortion can happen at birth.

Jennifer L.'s avatar

Jan, and my question is how did that infant get a ruptured spleen? Was the mother Covid vaxxed? Was the child delivered by cesarean and something happen as they took the baby out of the womb? What test was used to determine the baby actually HAD measles (we all know the PCR tests for Covid were full of false positives). So many more questions.

Warrior Mom's avatar

I believe that the 'test' was posthumous blood draw that found measles titers (antibodies), which could come from the mother, after an exposure. but of course the details are dubious at best, since they have to 'fit the narrative'.

of course, back in the day, baby could have gotten full-strength antibodies that provided immunity IF mom had actually had measles as a kid (measles vaccines will NOT make those antibodies). which is one of the possible reasons for a small (but highly hyped!) resurgence of measles - babies no longer get immunity from mom. :(

Jennifer L.'s avatar

Warrior Mom, as a side note I read the infant’s spleen was ruptured during birth. Also wondering if mother got the mRNA jabs during pregnancy and that may have been a factor in a positive measles titer? We will likely never know the truth but suffice to say measles had nothing to do with the baby’s death.

Warrior Mom's avatar

I heard the same, it is certainly plausible. but oh yeah the 'measles' had zero to do with it and it doesn't even really serve the narrative, as infants under 12 months are not recommended to get live-virus vaccines anyway! these pols really do think that the general populace is stupid. as Mary and Polly on CHD rightly observed: there are grieving parents and their infants death is being used as a political pawn. :(