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Jpeach's avatar

Who needs raw milk, sunshine, regular exercise, ivermectin (feel free to add to the list), when you can have Ozempic, mRNA vaccines, synthetic milk and chemtrails blocking the sun (feel free to add to the list).

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Annie's avatar

😉 Yeah. And don't forget to eat at Chipotle. After the 3rd time they got hit with an e-coli outbreak, they fixed it . It's safer now. 😉 lol

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Positively Paying It Forward's avatar

“Yeah. And don't forget to eat at Chipotle”. Love it.

I would, but they don’t offer drive-thru (not going to get in line with all those dirty customers and workers).

On a serious note or two:

Esquire sort of left out the fact that milk is no longer pasteurized, it’s now ultra-pasteurized. Why?

Old fashioned pasteurization in industrialized CAFO dairies resulted in such horrible conditions that the bacteria they hoped to kill became resistant to, even with all the antibiotics they simultaneously gave the cows.

So, enter ultra-pasteurization:

@Longer shelf life (like one to 3 months. Yippee.

@Oh but wait, welcome lactose intolerance, reduction of digestive enzymes (necessary if actually digesting the milk is a goal), vitamins, nutrients and proteins.

But stay focused. Did we not just discuss much longer product shelf life?? Isn’t that worth WAY more??

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Mystic William's avatar

I recall clearly pasteurized milk would go bad in a week or less. About 15 years ago all of a sudden it can last 3 weeks or more!! How did that happen?

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llaw555's avatar

Yeah, baby… bring on those tasty genetically modified animals… gimme some lab meat procured from your dead aunts tumor… and a side dish of that pesticide laden ORGANIC ORGANIPEEL produce .

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CraigN's avatar

RFK Jr. Needs to get on this one right now or else he might be called a soap denier or something.

"Hand soap recalled nationwide over bacterial contamination that could cause sepsis. Here's a list of the affected products"

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Mystic William's avatar

Local antibiotic free beef, salt, animal fats, all the stuff that when you eat it your energy and mental

Clarity goes way up instantly. But we have been told will kill you.

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KG Take Aim's avatar

and suntan lotion!

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Mystic William's avatar

I go to Mexico regularly. I always get burned but I also always get a bit of heatstroke once or twice a trip. I surf. Out in the sun for too long and I get that heady feeling. Also I burn and when I am back in Canada I peel and lose my tan quickly.

Last two trips I decided not to use sun screen. I had been using less and less anyway. But I stopped entirely. 1. No burns. 2. No peeling after returning home. But…3. NO SUNSTROKE!! I never got that heady groggy ‘rats, I overdid it today’ feeling. I am theorizing the sun tan lotion stops sweating which causes internal heat to rise. The mild heat stroke I would always get was because my pores were clogged and I couldn’t sweat.

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KG Take Aim's avatar

Omg! What a share. Thank you!

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Mystic William's avatar

You’re very welcome.

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Mystic William's avatar

And my tan lasted three times as long.

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Brenda Dyson's avatar

I live in Florida and I walk in the sun for about an hour each day. I stopped using the sun block a few years ago. I also ditched the sun glasses. I haven't burned since. My other new habits that seem to help is to go outside during sunrise and turn off blue screens at night.

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Mystic William's avatar

If sun block makes you burn, which I think it does, then those companies must know. Another lie that has gone on for seventy five years.

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M Bagwell's avatar

You forgot lab grown “meat.”

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jef weisel's avatar

i have made the complete switch to raw milk partially due to the wonderful family owned farm near me that treats it's cows like royalty and of course they are hormone and antibiotic free and grass fed. it doesn't hurt that they are also unwilling to ask exhorbitant prices for their products. since the change my acid reflux is gone, although it's not the only dietary change i've made. however i find myself much less willing to grab a latte when i'm out and about now. my homemade lattes using a stovetop stainless steel italian espresso machine (the kind you screw together) and warmed raw milk are better than any specialty coffee shop. and the milk bottles have cream on the top and are so delicious i must chug from them regularly. btw, jenna, love what you're doing here ~ thanks!

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Annie's avatar

Agree 💯. Support the farmers directly. Even if it costs more. I found my health improved. Lactose intolerance went away. 😄

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

Kinda like when you eat bread made without pesticides, the "allergy" to "gluten" seems to disappear for most people...

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

A friend went to Italy for several

weeks and found that she could eat her weight in pasta and pastry there, whereas here, she can’t eat half a piece of toast.

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

Same, a friend of mine had the same experience. So I asked her, "Why do you think you can't eat bread or pasta here?"

Blank stare.

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

My friend knows full

well why— and helps

fight Round Up/Glyphosate, thank heavens.

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🌱Nard🙏's avatar

Where do you live? I’ll be there in five.

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jef weisel's avatar

pennsylania and i go to apple valley creamery in east berlin

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Patti F's avatar

Ooh we're not far from each other! I get my milk from a little Amish farm in New Oxford. They sell milk, eggs, butter, cheese, and on weekends, baked goods. Their little store is just a shed with a cooler in it. :)

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jef weisel's avatar

sounds adorable

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Dave Scrimshaw's avatar

snyder county?

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jef weisel's avatar

yes it is!

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Dave Scrimshaw's avatar

lived there in the 90's

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jef weisel's avatar

grew up in carlisle but went to boston for 30 years, then keene, nh for 7, now back to assist my elderly parents

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Trish's avatar

If you are in the Charleston area, Local Jo's market sells raw milk from Milky Way Farm, it's delicious! They also sell raw cheese from The Family Cow which is based in PA.

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🌱Nard🙏's avatar

If only…Colorado…where it is illegal…but raw cheese is fine!

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Beth C Coddiwompler's avatar

You may be overjoyed to know that It's NOT illegal in Colorado. Laws differ state by state, and in Colorado you just need to join a herdshare.

Find raw milk here using this national database and selecting your state:

https://www.realmilk.com/raw-milk-finder/

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Lb's avatar

easy enough to get a cow share in colorado. we have one. the raw milk is fabulous and digestible.

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🌱Nard🙏's avatar

I will definitely look into that! We do buy ½ cow every year from Kain Meats…had no idea there were cow shares. I should’ve asked. Thanks for the tip!

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Trish's avatar

Ugh, bummer. CT is the same, no raw milk but raw cheese is ok. Crazy

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Beth C Coddiwompler's avatar

Check this out for your state:

https://www.realmilk.com/raw-milk-finder/

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Fred's avatar

Anyone know of a source near Bismarck, ND? Asking for a friend, for real this time. 😁

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nancylee's avatar

there's a raw milk website. look it up.

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Beth C Coddiwompler's avatar

Here it is, a state by state directory:

https://www.realmilk.com/raw-milk-finder/

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Dave Scrimshaw's avatar

state fair was in Minot - but watch out for the B-52's

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Cathie's avatar

We Italians call the stove top espresso makers Moka Pots. I love, collect them and give them to family.

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jef weisel's avatar

thanks, never heard that term before. i have three, recently having acquired one with a glass top. one of my favorite images from a world cup ski race i was watching last season was one of a large grill over an open flame covered in large blackened moka pots.

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

My chiropractor sells raw milk products at his place of business. He gave me a taste test of chocolate milk (I'm not a fan of milk but I love other dairy). It was really good! If I were to buy milk on a regular basis I'd totally go with raw.

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jef weisel's avatar

at first i didn't like the flavor of raw as much, tasted "grassy" - heh. but now i prefer it!

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Mystic William's avatar

My local antibiotic and hormone free beef is about 75% the price of beef on sale at the local supermarket. They are fatty and juicy and much tastier too.

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Karl Kaiser's avatar

A friend in St. Augustine buys raw milk weekly. The farmers have to say it is "for pets only", but it sells out within hours. Apparently many people raise calves in their basement. Who knew?

When I drank it it was not only the best-tasting milk I every had, but it felt like my body was saying YES!--that it was responding to the life-giving nutritional value.

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

I have recently heard the same thing from people who mill their own wheat berries for bread! Gee, there must be something to DIY food!

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SadieJay's avatar

My daughter bought a countertop flour mill and has organic wheat berries and mills the flour when she needs it. It is not cheap to eat healthy that is for sure. But, I really think you need to eat WAY less when you are eating healthy, so if you do the math, it works out for our benefit in all ways.♥

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

You probably save on medical

(cartel) bills as well, in the long haul.

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

We are eating only whole foods and I think you’re right: it might be more expensive, but we’re also not eating as much and we’re healthier. Zero doctors and prescriptions too.

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SadieJay's avatar

Amen to that lifestyle. Unprocessed as much as possible!!

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Patti F's avatar

MD only sells it for pets as well. I need a little eye roll emoji here...

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Teresa Parmenter's avatar

Funny! 😂

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🌱Nard🙏's avatar

30 years ago I could buy raw milk at Bread of Life (the Whole Foods in FL before Whole Foods was a thing) and it was no big deal. As a child, milk made me nauseous and I just hated it. But raw milk? The heavens opened and the angels sang and I could finally enjoy my cookies and milk like a grown up! Now you can’t find raw milk anywhere…and when you do, it’s an hours’s drive and and a hush-hush keep it down now kind of operation in a state where selling raw milk is illegal. How about that Esquire “reporter” let me decide what I put in my body (or not-jabs-cough,choke,gag) and I’LL deal with the consequences. He needs to go away. I wish I had room for a cow and some chickens…then I wouldn’t need to worry about this nonsense.

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

Maybe that's why I hate milk. Growing up as a kid, it gave me stomach cramps and later I had lactose intolerance. In my 20's that cleared up though, but probably because I hardly ever ate dairy at that point.

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Laurie Marinone's avatar

Small-scale "underground" raw goat milk producer here. Haven't been sick in 16 years (knock wood) except a weird transient dizzy/nauseous attack when the big C first arrived, and 2 mild cases of winter flu. Raising a small herd is a lot of work but growing most of your own food (proteins, veg, dairy) sure is healthy 😁. The establishment doesn't want people to know that...

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KatWarrior's avatar

Laurie! You are added to my list of sane folks! Also, because I am getting the hell out of The Communist Republic of Cali! 💥🎊🎉❤️

We are going full on rogue; buying land and farming. Trying to decide on goats or cows for milk! More on this later.

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Tonee norman's avatar

Are you a native California person, Kat?

I am,and I love my state. I HATE what has become of it. I’m hopeful the worst is over,soon.

I’m too old to start over and actually have pretty much my dream life with room for a garden,some hens,and,a few horses,but,still sometimes dream of even more rural living. I could have goats ( or any other animals I wanted) but,from what I’ve seen they are quite a bit of work and far more sensitive to what they eat then the “ goats eat tin cans,myth”…

Do you know what part of the country would please you. I’m just curious.

Thank you.

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

We had goats for a few years. You’re correct; they are far

more sensitive to what they can eat and need than people imply. Ours ate the cord to a $2000 pool polaris vacuum. That was a haeckel of a way to find out they require a LOT of copper in their feed.

After I found Onion Creek Meat Goats website, I read quite a lot and became far more wise to them. After that, I was easy. The worst thing was on occasion, I had to give them vitamin B shots in their neck or hip. I didn’t love that aspect but otherwise, quite entertaining.

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Tonee norman's avatar

That is very interesting.

What happens if they don’t get the B shots? My neighbors 2 goats lived to incredibly old age and, don’t believe they ever gave the B shots. Though,one got a weird thing where her tung hung out and the vet did give her something that fixed it….

Did your goat need surgery for wire removal?

Do meat goats give milk,too?

I’m guessing that in order to get milk( like with cows) for human consumption, you must take the babies away? That’s what people eat,right? The very young ones?

In my youth,my Italian family would occasionally have goat for Easter.

I recall it was tasty..however,I’m a hard core Hypocrite( I like BBQ)and would likely be a vegetarian if I had to kill my animals. I can tell you,chickens live a VERY long time after they stop laying..

My sister raised chickens for meat and never failed to tell me I was a hypocrite eating chicken,just,not mine..🤷🏻‍♀️

I truly have a lot of respect for people who CAN humanly raise their animals for food if they eat meat. I like to think I could do”it” if my babies were hungry! Give them a beautiful life,with one bad day…

I know I’ve ask a lot of questions. Thank you if you have time to answer,but,no worries!

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Maxstirner's avatar

hmm growing up a bit and at taking a sober look at the facts (ie commissioning a third party for the act) might help?

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SadieJay's avatar

I am a 5th generation Cali native. Family came over in the 1850's. I have been gone for 35 years. I grew up there when it was the golden state. Great times and a beautiful state. My mom just passed and she was almost 98, so I have no reason to EVER go back there. I just can't stand it. Then again, I am super sensitive to all the things. Leaving there a month ago, in 110 degree heat, running the gauntlet through all the smoke from a fire near Montgomery Creek that covered the valley was very apocalyptic.

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KatWarrior's avatar

You were way up in Shasta County! I hear it is stunningly beautiful. My last two Jack Russell Terrorists were from Shasta Jacks (Cindy)!

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Tonee norman's avatar

Do you love where you live,now? And,why?

Thank you.

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SadieJay's avatar

We are in Idaho. Absolutely love it. We raised our family here and are living the dream. But things are getting so expensive that our kids can't afford to come back to live if they haven't already bought here. Covid shifted everything. EVERYTHING. Boise is a hole. We are 2 hours north of there.

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KatWarrior's avatar

I spent some time in Idaho in July 2021, and likely drove through where you live, Sadie Jay. It's stunningly gorgeous!

Last June, I attended the Modern Homesteading Conference in Coeur d'Alene, which is also beautiful.

I cannot put my finger on it, but Idaho is not the place for us. It may be because it's been infiltrated by refugees from Cali!

I agree with you about Boise being a hole. We bypassed it completely, on purpose.

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Tonee norman's avatar

Nice!

A number of people from around here moved to Idaho right before covid.

Last I heard,they liked it very much.

I’m sorry for the loss of your mother. She lived a very long time!

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KatWarrior's avatar

No, I was born and raised in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. We have lived in Cali for 35 years in the same coastal location.

You are more optimistic about Cali than we are, as I don't see it getting better anytime soon. The lunatics in charge are downright evil.

I'm happy that you can live your dream life here.

Tennessee is our destination: the Cumberland Plateau, specifically the Sequatchie region.

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Tonee norman's avatar

I understand.

It would probably be the Shenandoah valley area in Virginia,or ,somewhere like your choice,if ever anywhere else.

.Good fortune to y’all!.

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David Nelson's avatar

𝐼𝑑𝑖𝑜𝑡 𝐴𝑚𝑒𝑟𝑖𝑐𝑎--𝑎𝑛 𝐴𝑢𝑡𝑜𝑏𝑖𝑜𝑔𝑟𝑎𝑝ℎ𝑖𝑐𝑎𝑙 𝐿𝑜𝑣𝑒 𝑆𝑡𝑜𝑟𝑦, by Charles P. Pierce.

P as in Putz.

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AFistFullOfGizzards's avatar

Taking a break from researching A2 Raw milk to say that Putz is a remarkably benign insult, (now I'm thinking about Quincy MD and longing for a Saturday free to mainline reruns from days of yore). I would have gone with something ruder.

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Annie's avatar

I had lactose intolerance issues. But with raw milk from A2 cows not shot up with everything, my lactose intolerance is gone. Who knew! 🤔

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AFistFullOfGizzards's avatar

Sorry to take so long to reply, but did you have lactose intolerance or were you told it was that? Because I think that I have milk protein allergy, and that's why A2 and I can be friends, and butter is minimally reactive. But for most of my life I have been being told that I am lactose intolerant. And neither lactase nor lacto-free (puke) milk is tolerable.

I am an ideal candidate for trying raw milk, but again can't tolerate "normal" milk. So I am pinning all my hopes on A2 Raw.

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Annie's avatar

Years ago a doctor suggested I was lactose intolerant. Not real bad. So I tried raw milk and it went away.

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AFistFullOfGizzards's avatar

Aah. Isn't it nice when you have a problem, find a solution and then move on. :-)

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AFistFullOfGizzards's avatar

I also have such a pathological hatred of medical establishments that the only tests I am prepared to do are postal, lol. Mind you, some of them are better than the hospital tests.

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David Nelson's avatar

I know, right? Why would his parents give him the middle name Putz, where there were so many other, more suitable brands? (My guess is that there were already Putz namesakes in the family and, as so often happens in families, they settled.)

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🌱Nard🙏's avatar

I can get A2 Pastured Milk in my state, but not raw…unless I go black market from a family farm :(.

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KatWarrior's avatar

Same, of course! Living in The Communist Republic of Cali means NO RAW MILK for you plebians! Feck The Feck Off!

I am so furious about this one!

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SadieJay's avatar

I saw some raw milk in a store in Redding, Orchard Nutrition. Or maybe it was Sprouts. I remember because I was really surprised.

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Scott's avatar

I believe we have raw milk at a small local market here in Cali.

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KatWarrior's avatar

It must be treated like selling the now extinct quaaludes!

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Tonee norman's avatar

Can you say what part of California?

I’m not a milk fan,but,drank raw milk as a kid. I thought I saw raw goats milk at my local California Whole Foods. I might try milk again if raw. I like goat cheese,but,not milk..TY

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Scott's avatar

Eastern Sierra, Bishop. Maybe it's no longer available, but it has been, raw kefir, too. The company is called Raw Farm.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Last month marked the fourth anniversary of my being able to buy, and delightedly consume, RAW, whole, pastured Jersey milk. Oddly, during the same period. my desire to have yogurt, in the fridge, at all times, disappeared. Simply disappeared. The milk goes into me (drinking it as I type, in my coffee--which is at least one-half raw milk) and when it goes sour, it goes sour--it doesn't spoil, as does pasteurized milk. "Soured" pasteurized milk has to be thrown out. Soured raw milk either becomes a baked product, or becomes part of the fertilizer I make for my fruit trees, bushes, vegetables. I can buy raw milk because I live in Pennsylvania; but "my farmer" notes on his website that he cannot sell milk over state lines. Hoping that RFK Jr. will make the sale of raw milk legal in all 50 states. Imagine what that would do for the health of Americans! MAHA!!

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Patti F's avatar

I'm in PA too. I know in MD, you can't buy raw milk - it's marketed as "pet milk". I've heard of people crossing the state line to buy it here. Imagine having to cross state lines to buy something as basic as milk.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Farmer Edwin Shank, Family Cow, Chambersburg.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

The farm which brings my milk to me, used to have to market its butter as “Rettub— only for pets”.

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John Wright's avatar

Bot #4372 reporting for duty!

"empowered stupid" - we have far too many of those! At least we have material for our cat litter boxes!

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Annie's avatar

Hahaha 😂

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Kathleen Oliver's avatar

Well how do you prove you're stupid and biased without saying you are stupid and biased? Describe the horrors of raw milk and Ivermectin. What an uninformed ignoramus. If you want to destroy the food supply, just put the government in charge and industrialize it. And presto! The result? Staggering rise in obesity, chronic illness, tooth decay, health costs, mental illness, food allergies. And I could go on. Those of us who have actually researched the subject know that most outbreaks of food poisoning by far, are from government processing facilities. And that well run locally obtained food that does not travel a thousand miles is far safer. Did you know raw milk contains good bacteria that improve it's safety?Pasteurized milk goes rancid in your refrigerator after 2 weeks because it lacks those little microscopic good bugs. But raw milk turns to clabber which is a naturally fermented sour milk that is used as a leavening agent in the best breads and cakes you will ever eat and the secret ingredient in many a state fair winning entry. And if you ask, yes, I absolutely consume raw milk and cream and yogurt. And by the way, eat beef from the same farmer who raises his cows only on grass and butchers them himself with his family, right there on the farm without traveling 1 mile. ( The Amish are amazing stewards of our food supply.) And my health has improved markedly since making the switch 4 years ago along with local produce and little to no processed food. If any of you want research further, start with the Weston A. Price Foundation and website. And in case you were wondering, Weston A Price was a dentist at the beginning of the last century who took notice of the trend of growing tooth decay and decided to start a research project that became his life's work. He traveled the world comparing diets of indigenous populations comparing them to western diets and the results. Amazing reading. Ok...back to my locally raised eggs and bacon.

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Charles Summers's avatar

Another daily reminder, among thousands, of how deeply the high-brows hate the plebes. Hopefully esquire subscriptions are mostly purchased by USAID and the rag will dry up soon.

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Daria Diaz's avatar

The stupidity is stunning! If I wrote such uninformed drivel in my Substack, I'd expect to have zero subscribers. And making the comparison to debunked left wing Covid propaganda? Get over it already!

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Vee's avatar

Bot here. I wouldn't be surprised if Mr. Pierce wrote this with AI using "conspiracy theorist jabs" as part of his total take down of raw milk. At least he didn't suggest that they make a vaccine to cure those of us who are dumb enough to drink raw milk. At least not yet.

#PropagandaWatch for those of you who are James Corbett fans. Jenna is one of the best propaganda watchers on planet earth! I would love to see a video series! 😃

https://youtu.be/84IEI8lcYls

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

🙋🏻‍♀️ Barnyard swamp water fan here! We also eat (gasp!) eggs from our four hens, Black Betty, Bama Lam, BBQ, Tandoori, and Hennifer Anniston.

Raw milk remineralizes teeth among other huge health benefits and can be found by searching RawMilkFinder.org or Weston Price Foundation, I believe.

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Jenna McCarthy's avatar

Hahahahahaha Hennifer Anniston! (We once had a cat named Chandler Bing!) ;)

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Karen Bandy's avatar

I have a kitty named Cosmo Kramer. Still trying to get him to pose in a tin foil hat for you. 😉

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Jenna McCarthy's avatar

*holds breath* ;)

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Karen Bandy's avatar

😂 Do I need to make earholes or do the messages come thru with just a small cap between the ears? Asking for a friend.

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Meddling Kid's avatar

The ONLY problem with raw milk is that it hasn’t yet been made into raw butter.

Mmmmmm…butter. (Homer drooling)

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Kathleen Oliver's avatar

Oh yes it has...I buy raw butter from the Amish. And yes...more amazing than you can believe.

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

If you can shake a martini or a mason jar, you can make butter. It couldn’t be easier. We have made a few batches, starting way back when my three kiddos were reading Little House on the Prairie and Daniel Boone.

Search YouTube.

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Tonee norman's avatar

Have you made butter from raw milk? Do you skim the cream from the top,or buy raw cream?

I have not made butter in years,but,it is ,indeed very simple. As is making mayonnaise,and,sooo,delicious!

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Cathie's avatar

You can make your own! It's delicious!

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Meddling Kid's avatar

Perhaps I needed to clarify…

It’s not that raw butter doesn’t yet exist. Obviously it does.

The problem is that if you are holding a glass of raw milk, that glassful hasn’t yet become raw butter, which is its higher - dare I say its ultimate - purpose in life.

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Janine Melnitz's avatar

I have friend who worked as a VP at Land O’Lakes and was warning me about drinking raw milk…brainwashed maximally. Got the vax, liberal etc. I said thanks and then kept drinking it. Been friends since 1980..

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Annie's avatar

I have "friends " like that. I am polite for what was. Unfortunately I can't forget that they were and are brainwashed sheeple. It's sad but what can you do. 😐

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Eric Sowers's avatar

Go ahead and call it a sweep. The *Other choice is so broad it encourages the creative reader to make even more descriptive choices like “toilet paper substitute.”

In high school and college, the Don Draper era, Esquire was superb. It introduced Old Man and the Sea, then a few decades later gave us Legends of the Fall. Remember those great Dubious Achievements Awards?

Now they suck, but I guess that plays to their intended market.

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Annie's avatar

Wonder how long they will be in business now that Doge eliminated all those subscriptions the government was paying for. Or funneling money to these leftist rags.

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