I was in camp 3 for a long time. I then realized that it was part & parcel of the WEF/Transnational gangsters assault on this country by dividing the electorate...viciously, using their captured MSM....and instilling not voting as rebellion. Don't buy it anymore.
Vote....its the best way to let the Beltway Mafia know that we are watching them and what they do.
Skenny, I can see your point--I do, but with all due respect, I'd like to point out that the system would be as simple as possible if I made all the decisions.
Wait - WHAT??! Vee’s a HE??! Give me some time to wrap my head around my mistaken stereotypical misconception before I go on reading the entire stack LOL
And like the rest of you (in this thread, at any rate) I'd always assumed Vee was a she, who may find our "wrongful gendering" more upsetting than the political ramifications of how we think - and vote.
Both sides of this issue have valid points and concerns. I vote because there are some issues I feel very strongly about and will vote for the candidate that will further my agenda. Like medical freedom and free speech and immigration policies. I agree with Vee about many things and disagree about many things, but I do believe that voting makes a difference.
I agree that there a separate camps. But, it’s not just two. 1) Awake. 2) Brainwashed. 3) Evil Puppet Masters. The Awake must try to wake up the Brainwashed. There’s been Evil Puppet Masters for millennium. Evil Puppet Masters greatest fear are Awake pitchforks. Voting is a non violent pitchfork.
Thank you!! Well said: "Sodas don’t determine immigration policies. They don’t appoint Supreme Court justices. They don’t write abortion laws, regulate transgender surgeries for minors, determine who gets to compete in women’s sports, or decide which businesses can operate during a public-health “emergency.” And if anyone seriously questions the difference elected officials can make, how do you explain, for example, the Covid approaches in Florida versus New York?"
I don't know Vee's heart, but in many there is a kind of self-righteousness that ignores the plight of their neighbor, such as their J6 neighbor rotting in prison to further a Leftist/Democrat power grab. Examples could be multiplied ad infinitum. When the U.S. starts burning like France, at least these non-voters can smuggly rest in their livingroom, if not burned to the ground, and say they did not support the uniparty. Leftists love these folks and are behind many promoting their message. Sometimes it is difficult to know what is worse, self-righteousness or naivete. Both kill.
This was brilliantly written Jenna. I totally agree with you, that no matter how broken our system is, we can’t give in to the demon of despair. Just having been born in this country is a blessing and a privilege. We have an obligation to use our constitutional right to vote to try to preserve our republic, especially at the local level. What if our founders had taken Vee’s approach and said that England was too powerful to overthrow so why bother even trying. I love your quirky sense of humor! You always help make my day!
I don't know about Vee's views specifically. But he linked to Derrick Broze, a thought leader for his POV. Neither Broze nor similar voices like Corbett advocate "why bother even trying". Quite the opposite. I agree with Jenna and other commenters that voting makes sense. IMO, one side is taking us down as quickly as possible, the other side more slowly. In this particular election cycle though, I can't bring myself to validate the R's for selling us out and starting this stupid war that even Democrats avoided. My Republican congressman took more than 12 times as much from AIPAC than his next highest donor. I know where his loyalties lie, and it's not with my interests. He's shown that. I can't vote for him.
Just had this conversation with my oldest son who sounds a lot like Vee. As I told him, there is no difference between the majority of politicians and the corruption. The difference isn’t political ideology it is spiritual. Look at the four years with the Biden regime. Our border overrun with illegals, children cutting off their penis, aborting babies in the delivery room, boys playing in girls sports…
Am I disappointed in Trump? Yes. His Cares Act gave the money incentive to the hospital whose protocol killed my mother. If I could kick the chair out from under Fauci, after a fair trial :) I’d feel some satisfaction - as would a lot of us. Hopefully, that day will come in his last two years!
But Trump is trying to rectify the issues I mentioned above that under another Democrat will move full steam ahead. I have grandchildren and I can’t ignore that and not vote.
Exactly. My grandchild was groomed into trans during Biden and has no breasts or female reproductive organs anymore. Along with the blue state medical/child sacrifice model the results of that evil has made me ruminate of punishments unprintable here.
Vee believes the current system is beyond redemption; that there’s nothing we can do to repair it. You know what’s funny? If I were part of a shadowy cabal hell-bent on dividing Americans, consolidating power, and eliminating any effective opposition, convincing people they were powerless would be my number-one goal. I’d sell them the idea that resignation was actually resistance, and promise them that the best and most meaningful thing they could do would be to hand over their power without a fight.
Then I’d give them their own camp and tell them they were the enlightened ones.
Thise musings were so spot on that I could quote the whole thing and still be amazed at its validity.
People who don't vote think that they have some other worldy moral oneuppance on the rest of us. Guess what, if you do not vote , you do not have any say in what happens, if that is the case, do NOT compain when things happen you do not like; do not compain when they take away everything you have ever worked for, do not compain when you are left with no choices but theirs.
It is like sports, if you do not play you cannot enjoy, you cannot win and you designate yourself as someone who is a sideliner; just watching as things (life) goes on by. It is really very,very sad, to hear this.
YOu are then left with the foolishness of the the "politically correct, woke, take evrything you have worked for away, spinsters. "
Could things be better; always.
Wake up people and VOte, vote , vote,;; or else........................
Inasmuch as government is mostly corrupt, and that it is a fact that 99.999999% of democrats will cheat every time, as much as they think they can get away with, it comes down to this:
Godless evil people will vote. We already see that in the election of retarded DSA communists.
If God-centered people refuse to vote out of some sense of rebellion against an evil system, who wins?
So very much to say here. Where to start? First, there's Henry David Thoreau who pointed out that voting is hardly an act of moral courage since it's only making a mark on a piece of paper, so why not take a few minutes and do it. Voting is the very least we can do and at least it's peaceful. Second, there are other ways to make our voices heard: letters to the editor, run for office, show up at the school board, home school, and donate time or money to someone's campaign. Third, doing nothing is not generally a great way to change anything. Fourth, we live in a broken world and when good people leave public places and refuse to participate, the vacuum they create will be filled by people with evil intentions, so THAT's a great option. And fifth, for the non-voters among us, my question is: would you prefer living in a country where voting is not an option? Lastly, there was a time when claiming the two parties were two wings of the same bird. That changed when MAGA raised itself into a political force. It's not unlike the rise of the anti slavery party in 1860 when Americans said they'd had enough of the "slave power." We are once again in the middle of a political and cultural battle. As Churchill said about this country: "You can always count on Americans to do the right thing, after they have tried everything else." We're on track right now to do the right thing.
Sure, why not vote? You don't have to vote for whoever the Rs and Ds foist upon us. I'll probably write in Massie in 2028. I won't vote for anybody who takes a penny of AIPAC money. We've seen how that works for us, and it's gonna get much worse, most likely.
Indeed, the more local the election, the more powerful each vote is. Also EARLIER--sometimes there are great candidates in primaries, and always a significant choice.
Another thing is INFORMATION. You can't make an informed choice on the idiotic horse-race information of big-city newspapers and teevee. In West Virginia, there is the Mountain State Spotlight, free online. It is completely convinced that government money is the answer to everything, but it carries real information on every candidate who replies to its questions, making it the best source of information I have ever seen. Does your state have an online news source worth bothering with?
In general, how to get good information is a key that is not discussed anywhere near enough.
What I find interesting with Vee, for someone who allegedly never votes, he's always voting in your substack polls (usually "other") and then makes sure to let everyone know how he voted and why. Almost like he believes engaging in democracy does matter :)
Totally with you Jenna. Resignation is what the bad guys want. Every non-vote empowers the government parasites.
I ran three statewide tax cut initiatives in massachusetts (2002, 2008, 2020). Lost all 3. We would have won two of them if the resigned, non-voters, who did not want the taxes, had gotten off their asses and voted.
#2! I get tired of seeing that "capitalism" is to blame for this or that when the problem they are complaining about doesn't resemble free market capitalism at all.
The meme: The Republicans aren't perfect, but the other side is insane...
Reality (as I see it): Republicans most definitely are not perfect...on any given day, I am absolutely frustrated, disheartened, and/or enraged by the current state of several things (that Jenna already wrote about in this insightful article).
Say what you will about Trump, (whom I voted for in '16, '20 & '24), but I for one will never vote for the Democrat party again (I voted for Bill Clinton when I was 18 years old in 1996).
I agree with many policies and actions taken by Trump 2 and this administration...
Yes, I know that OWS was launched under Trump 1 and I am horrified & painfully aware that the mRNA bioweapons platform has expanded under Trump 2...
But today's Dem party has welcomed communists and jihadists and wants open borders, to "trans" all the kids, destroy the (nuclear) family, and/or to mandate the inherently injurious & deadly gene "therapy" transfection bioweapons...and much more...
The other side is not only insane...many on the other side, as most here know, are actively & intentionally working towards the destruction of America and the West...I am going to vote against that insanity & intentional destruction, whether or not voting actually ultimately means anything in the big scheme of things...
I was in camp 3 for a long time. I then realized that it was part & parcel of the WEF/Transnational gangsters assault on this country by dividing the electorate...viciously, using their captured MSM....and instilling not voting as rebellion. Don't buy it anymore.
Vote....its the best way to let the Beltway Mafia know that we are watching them and what they do.
📌📌📌📌📌📌📌
A lot of what Vee says may be true. But everything would be better if everyone would vote like me.
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Skenny, I can see your point--I do, but with all due respect, I'd like to point out that the system would be as simple as possible if I made all the decisions.
Wait - WHAT??! Vee’s a HE??! Give me some time to wrap my head around my mistaken stereotypical misconception before I go on reading the entire stack LOL
Came here to say exactly that! I too had always assumed that Vee was a woman (whatever that is).
😂😂😂
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I seriously have the same problem because my previous girlfriend's name was "V" so I really struggle to remember that our "Vee" is a he!
Yes he’s a he…well spoken and highly intelligent. When he speaks I listen …don’t always agree, but I listen.
V for Vendetta? Right?
Depending on who’s in Office, Vee might be forced to undergo sex change surgery
Exactly. I had no idea.
And like the rest of you (in this thread, at any rate) I'd always assumed Vee was a she, who may find our "wrongful gendering" more upsetting than the political ramifications of how we think - and vote.
That’s EXACTLY what I thought!!
Hahahahahaha this was my exact response, yeah, voting yadda yadda a HE? a HEEEEEEEE? Nope. Absolutely not.
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Same
Me, too!
Please tell me YOU are of the female persuasion, ViaVeritasVita! Or else my whole worldview is in danger of imploding! I. Can’t. EVEN!
OMG yes- are you????
Both sides of this issue have valid points and concerns. I vote because there are some issues I feel very strongly about and will vote for the candidate that will further my agenda. Like medical freedom and free speech and immigration policies. I agree with Vee about many things and disagree about many things, but I do believe that voting makes a difference.
I agree that there a separate camps. But, it’s not just two. 1) Awake. 2) Brainwashed. 3) Evil Puppet Masters. The Awake must try to wake up the Brainwashed. There’s been Evil Puppet Masters for millennium. Evil Puppet Masters greatest fear are Awake pitchforks. Voting is a non violent pitchfork.
Thank you!! Well said: "Sodas don’t determine immigration policies. They don’t appoint Supreme Court justices. They don’t write abortion laws, regulate transgender surgeries for minors, determine who gets to compete in women’s sports, or decide which businesses can operate during a public-health “emergency.” And if anyone seriously questions the difference elected officials can make, how do you explain, for example, the Covid approaches in Florida versus New York?"
I don't know Vee's heart, but in many there is a kind of self-righteousness that ignores the plight of their neighbor, such as their J6 neighbor rotting in prison to further a Leftist/Democrat power grab. Examples could be multiplied ad infinitum. When the U.S. starts burning like France, at least these non-voters can smuggly rest in their livingroom, if not burned to the ground, and say they did not support the uniparty. Leftists love these folks and are behind many promoting their message. Sometimes it is difficult to know what is worse, self-righteousness or naivete. Both kill.
Agree.
This was brilliantly written Jenna. I totally agree with you, that no matter how broken our system is, we can’t give in to the demon of despair. Just having been born in this country is a blessing and a privilege. We have an obligation to use our constitutional right to vote to try to preserve our republic, especially at the local level. What if our founders had taken Vee’s approach and said that England was too powerful to overthrow so why bother even trying. I love your quirky sense of humor! You always help make my day!
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Totally agree with this comment!!
It seems to me that your comment can equally be read to mean that voting is not nearly enough.
I don't know about Vee's views specifically. But he linked to Derrick Broze, a thought leader for his POV. Neither Broze nor similar voices like Corbett advocate "why bother even trying". Quite the opposite. I agree with Jenna and other commenters that voting makes sense. IMO, one side is taking us down as quickly as possible, the other side more slowly. In this particular election cycle though, I can't bring myself to validate the R's for selling us out and starting this stupid war that even Democrats avoided. My Republican congressman took more than 12 times as much from AIPAC than his next highest donor. I know where his loyalties lie, and it's not with my interests. He's shown that. I can't vote for him.
Just had this conversation with my oldest son who sounds a lot like Vee. As I told him, there is no difference between the majority of politicians and the corruption. The difference isn’t political ideology it is spiritual. Look at the four years with the Biden regime. Our border overrun with illegals, children cutting off their penis, aborting babies in the delivery room, boys playing in girls sports…
Am I disappointed in Trump? Yes. His Cares Act gave the money incentive to the hospital whose protocol killed my mother. If I could kick the chair out from under Fauci, after a fair trial :) I’d feel some satisfaction - as would a lot of us. Hopefully, that day will come in his last two years!
But Trump is trying to rectify the issues I mentioned above that under another Democrat will move full steam ahead. I have grandchildren and I can’t ignore that and not vote.
Exactly. My grandchild was groomed into trans during Biden and has no breasts or female reproductive organs anymore. Along with the blue state medical/child sacrifice model the results of that evil has made me ruminate of punishments unprintable here.
OMG! That is horrific! So sorry to hear this.
I am so sorry
How utterly awful for your granddaughter. I'm so sorry.
Vee believes the current system is beyond redemption; that there’s nothing we can do to repair it. You know what’s funny? If I were part of a shadowy cabal hell-bent on dividing Americans, consolidating power, and eliminating any effective opposition, convincing people they were powerless would be my number-one goal. I’d sell them the idea that resignation was actually resistance, and promise them that the best and most meaningful thing they could do would be to hand over their power without a fight.
Then I’d give them their own camp and tell them they were the enlightened ones.
Thise musings were so spot on that I could quote the whole thing and still be amazed at its validity.
People who don't vote think that they have some other worldy moral oneuppance on the rest of us. Guess what, if you do not vote , you do not have any say in what happens, if that is the case, do NOT compain when things happen you do not like; do not compain when they take away everything you have ever worked for, do not compain when you are left with no choices but theirs.
It is like sports, if you do not play you cannot enjoy, you cannot win and you designate yourself as someone who is a sideliner; just watching as things (life) goes on by. It is really very,very sad, to hear this.
YOu are then left with the foolishness of the the "politically correct, woke, take evrything you have worked for away, spinsters. "
Could things be better; always.
Wake up people and VOte, vote , vote,;; or else........................
Respectfully.
Absolutely
Inasmuch as government is mostly corrupt, and that it is a fact that 99.999999% of democrats will cheat every time, as much as they think they can get away with, it comes down to this:
Godless evil people will vote. We already see that in the election of retarded DSA communists.
If God-centered people refuse to vote out of some sense of rebellion against an evil system, who wins?
So very much to say here. Where to start? First, there's Henry David Thoreau who pointed out that voting is hardly an act of moral courage since it's only making a mark on a piece of paper, so why not take a few minutes and do it. Voting is the very least we can do and at least it's peaceful. Second, there are other ways to make our voices heard: letters to the editor, run for office, show up at the school board, home school, and donate time or money to someone's campaign. Third, doing nothing is not generally a great way to change anything. Fourth, we live in a broken world and when good people leave public places and refuse to participate, the vacuum they create will be filled by people with evil intentions, so THAT's a great option. And fifth, for the non-voters among us, my question is: would you prefer living in a country where voting is not an option? Lastly, there was a time when claiming the two parties were two wings of the same bird. That changed when MAGA raised itself into a political force. It's not unlike the rise of the anti slavery party in 1860 when Americans said they'd had enough of the "slave power." We are once again in the middle of a political and cultural battle. As Churchill said about this country: "You can always count on Americans to do the right thing, after they have tried everything else." We're on track right now to do the right thing.
🔥🎯🧨 Love the Churchill quote!
Very well said.
I'll vote - feels good to. The more local the election, the more powerful the vote is.
Sure, why not vote? You don't have to vote for whoever the Rs and Ds foist upon us. I'll probably write in Massie in 2028. I won't vote for anybody who takes a penny of AIPAC money. We've seen how that works for us, and it's gonna get much worse, most likely.
Indeed, the more local the election, the more powerful each vote is. Also EARLIER--sometimes there are great candidates in primaries, and always a significant choice.
Another thing is INFORMATION. You can't make an informed choice on the idiotic horse-race information of big-city newspapers and teevee. In West Virginia, there is the Mountain State Spotlight, free online. It is completely convinced that government money is the answer to everything, but it carries real information on every candidate who replies to its questions, making it the best source of information I have ever seen. Does your state have an online news source worth bothering with?
In general, how to get good information is a key that is not discussed anywhere near enough.
What I find interesting with Vee, for someone who allegedly never votes, he's always voting in your substack polls (usually "other") and then makes sure to let everyone know how he voted and why. Almost like he believes engaging in democracy does matter :)
😂😂😂
For all the good that does... (responding in chats and changing the world through despair.. One person at a time.)
Totally with you Jenna. Resignation is what the bad guys want. Every non-vote empowers the government parasites.
I ran three statewide tax cut initiatives in massachusetts (2002, 2008, 2020). Lost all 3. We would have won two of them if the resigned, non-voters, who did not want the taxes, had gotten off their asses and voted.
Something like millions of Christians didn’t vote in 2024. But rolled over for the jabs.
The puppet masters want us to believe a lot of things:
1. Voting is a waste of time
2. Corporatism is the same as capitalism
3. The United States is imperialist and colonialist (I seem to recall we forgot a war specifically not to be)
4. Protests around the world are organic
5. Their is no cabal wanting the collapse of Western Civilization
6. mRNA is not harmful in the slightest
7. It's normal to get sick from the thing you were vaccinated against
8. Free college tuition is a human right
9. Economic fairness is about free stuff or every body has the same income
10. Equity equals equality
(short list)
#2! I get tired of seeing that "capitalism" is to blame for this or that when the problem they are complaining about doesn't resemble free market capitalism at all.
The meme: The Republicans aren't perfect, but the other side is insane...
Reality (as I see it): Republicans most definitely are not perfect...on any given day, I am absolutely frustrated, disheartened, and/or enraged by the current state of several things (that Jenna already wrote about in this insightful article).
Say what you will about Trump, (whom I voted for in '16, '20 & '24), but I for one will never vote for the Democrat party again (I voted for Bill Clinton when I was 18 years old in 1996).
I agree with many policies and actions taken by Trump 2 and this administration...
Yes, I know that OWS was launched under Trump 1 and I am horrified & painfully aware that the mRNA bioweapons platform has expanded under Trump 2...
But today's Dem party has welcomed communists and jihadists and wants open borders, to "trans" all the kids, destroy the (nuclear) family, and/or to mandate the inherently injurious & deadly gene "therapy" transfection bioweapons...and much more...
The other side is not only insane...many on the other side, as most here know, are actively & intentionally working towards the destruction of America and the West...I am going to vote against that insanity & intentional destruction, whether or not voting actually ultimately means anything in the big scheme of things...
“Well you can do whatever you want to us, but we’re not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States 🇺🇸 of America.”
Otter