When you used to sign the form when being admitted as a patient it was all on paper. Now I hear it's on an ipad so you cannot cross out anything you disagree with. I don't think you can be admitted as a patient if you don't sign it.
Even if you explicitly say no to any jabs I don't think they would listen. Because as we all know it's about the money. The more jabs they give out it's more $$ for them.
It's crap like this that makes people not trust the medical profession or ever want to step foot inside a hospital.
Add to that: I have a friend who used to work in the mortgage industry. He told me that if a customer was awful to deal with, they had a line item they could (AND DID) add to the tab. (He called it "the a$$hole tax" but it had an official sounding name--like Underwriting Courier Insurance Fee or something.) Not a single customer ever noticed or called it out. In the ER they could lump vaccines in with "vital fluids" or some such...
Yup. My papers said I got a flu shot while in a hemotologist office last week. Unless it was by the finger oxy thingy, NOPE. Or it came out of the ventilation system. The printout I get did say I had no Covid jabs on record.
I think there's overcharging on top of all the other madness. It doesn't matter if you received the jab or not. Doctor don't get paid if they don't meet quotas so they lie. All very sad.
What they are supposed to do vs what they actually do are 2 different things. Sadly I've heard some hospitals have refused to print out the form. They give people no option other than to initial the ipad.
Personally I would fight for paper no matter what!
Every time they have me sign that invisible document I wonder how they can even legally rely on a signed document that the signer had no idea what they were signing. Every time. That thought rolls through my mind.
I think you have some printing to do before your Wednesday procedure.... maybe I should not only be the designated driver but offer to guard you during the procedure..... now I'm a little nervous! 😬
This horrifies me for several reasons, mainly for perpetuating the idea that vaccines are so safe that we can conveniently bundle them into other procedures. (The same way they pressure pregnant women to take vaccines during their prenatal care). This protocol makes it impossible to separate vaccine reactions from surgery side effects. It also means families who are unaware their kids got a jab might vaccinate again at their primary care doc's office - which increases the risk of vaccine injury. The arrogance of this cavalier attitude is so dangerous and frankly, it's creepily close to entering the rape zone. If someone is unconscious, IT MEANS NO.
I would guess that the inability to separate vaccine side effects from surgery side effects was the whole point of it. And as for rape, they’ve been letting med students, residents, and interns perform gynecological exams on anesthetized women for decades. Shady shit is nothing new in medicine.
WTF. Sorry for the profanity, but this is INSANITY! Our founding fathers are rolling in their graves. The ‘chip’ isn’t far away. This is a war between good and evil.
Colorado hospitals admitted they vaccinated 18,000 children when they were unconscious or sedated. It was on a CHD post the same day.
My hemotologist visit last week said on my print out I got a flu shot. I was sitting in a chair awake the whole time and did not get a flu shot. Nor was I asked. I think I’d know. I’m going to ask if I can get ahold of someone. The record does correctly show i got ZERO Covid shots.
Sometimes I have to comment before I read the whole thing so I don’t forget. Emphasis on the “forget”. 😀. I think I was shocked but maybe not. Infuriated, yes. Sickened, yes. Desiring 24/7 vax delivery to the monsters doing this. Big YES. Or prison cells and I got a flu shot that never happened on my record and a charge, I assume.
Well, in healthcare they have a mantra: “If it wasn’t documented, it wasn’t done.” So, I guess the inverse is possible: “If it was documented, it was done.” Neither of these are legitimate proof that something was or wasn’t done.
Not to open another can of worms, but...Doctors receive ridiculously low payments for the care they provide by private insurers, Medicare, and Medicaid. That's because those entities control how much the doctors are allowed to bill for their services (sometimes called reasonable and customary charges). And then those approved charges are further reduced by the percentage stipulated by the patient's insurance contract (a doctor visit might be approved for $100, but the insurer is only required to pay 80% of that). None of that takes into consideration the costs the doctor must absorb just to maintain their practice, things like malpractice insurance, rent, medical staff, supplies, and people whose only job is to file claims, track payments, and bill patients for the amounts their insurer didn't pay. It wouldn't surprise me if insurers received claims for a few things the doctor didn't provide, like vaccinations or complex services in addition to an office visit. It's not honest and I wouldn't condone that. But I would understand the motivation. We're all ensnared in a system that greatly limits the quality of care we're given. Doctors see that just as their patients do. And most of them are as helpless as their patients to change it.
Oh and is anyone doing a study to see how many adverse effects occur from this?? NO of course not because that would harm Big pHarma's profits. And hospitals don't care cause they got paid.
“Bad Medicine follows the trail of hard evidence while laying out a step-by-step exposé of the tricks and tactics used to capture and control entire populations. Without understanding these methods we will remain vulnerable to future psychological operations.”
I will be promoting this film at a theater near me.
Join me in this effort. We have to fight this evil. 😈
Thanks for posting this, Laura! I may even try to attend the premiere. I can’t stand going to Beverly Thrills, but I could drag a few of my warriors and make it tolerable! 🤯❤️🙏
Anyway, I will definitely make a pitstop at The Beverly Hills Cheese Store to say hi to Tony and Norbert. The finest cheesemongers on the West Coast. Just stepping inside this cheese mecca is joy. 🤩
I like what you said, but now that we know the problem, we need to have solutions. Think health self awareness, (emphasis on the body actually being the Lord's temple) return of private/small consierge practice, no-excuses consierge emergency facility via subscription, legislation allowing the unobstructed existence of such concerns. My doctor is concierge, not currently accepting new patients, otherwise I'd happily post where allowed to.
"This delightful initiative reportedly kicked off in October of 2020"
Of course it did. Routine "care" took a back seat to the "pandemic" for much of that year, and too many kids "fell behind" on their scheduled injections.
I sometimes wonder what the length of the average human lifespan would look like, as split between all-out, trust the science, medical intervention, and a well-researched, minimalist, longevity-focused strategy. The same perhaps with the latter being of considerably less drama and expense than the former? God knows!
My 22 yo daughter tried to take her life 2x this year - thankfully they were not immediately life threatening events, however she did cut herself. They gave her a “tetanus shot” BOTH TIMES. - of course a tetanus shot is not simply a tetanus shot - it’s a DPT combo vaccine. The hospital did this while she was sedated. She found out about it when reviewing her medical records after the fact. She was never vaccinated as a child, and despite her cries for help, she really doesn’t want to end her life - she was incredibly angry and felt violated. It’s unconscionable.
All the F*cking above. My body, their choice. These corporations and the psychopaths running them literally think they own us.
For the sane, this is completely insane, but for the propagandized who havent looked behind the curtain, this is completely normal. There is a reason there are "flu shot" signs everywhere from gas stations to grocery stores to your local Costco. It's so "normal" to get your flu shot that getting it under another medical procedure is "convenient". It's the same reason why a lot of ignorant and well meaning parents give their kids 5-6 shots in one visit. Convenience.
Makes me wonder…if they can give life-saving medical treatment to a car-accident victim who is brought in alone by ambulance, with no one to sign any forms, are the forms just a CYA for them after the fact, or are they actually pumping everyone full of this shite regardless of approval and just seeking approval from family later via “hospitalists” who should have never been invented because they aren’t doctors and aren’t bound by any medical ethics?
Actually, hospitalists are technically physicians. They just don’t have outside practices. That makes them suspicious as heck, and they are probably more likely to do what’s best for the facility, rather than the patient, but they are indeed doctors.
Ok, then if they ARE licensed doctors, and they protect the “needs” of the hospital (profits and liabilities) over the needs of the patient, then the Hippocratic oath means nothing and no one should ever trust any hospital ever again.
Which is probably where we actually are as a society and not everyone wants to see it yet.
Good points. And if we are smart we avoid being prey to such, ie:curbing aggresive behavior in traffic, stunting on youtube, maxxing out capability, the list goes on.....
Most of these hospitals are also "nonprofits." What a joke. I have no affiliations with any hospitals and I do my best to keep my patients out of hospitals.
This makes me so damn MAD!! How dare they?? I’d like to drop kick anybody who treats my health, my decisions & my rights as some sort of lame suggestion!! I’d really would rather face a firing squad, than deal with any hospital employee!!
When you used to sign the form when being admitted as a patient it was all on paper. Now I hear it's on an ipad so you cannot cross out anything you disagree with. I don't think you can be admitted as a patient if you don't sign it.
Even if you explicitly say no to any jabs I don't think they would listen. Because as we all know it's about the money. The more jabs they give out it's more $$ for them.
It's crap like this that makes people not trust the medical profession or ever want to step foot inside a hospital.
Add to that: I have a friend who used to work in the mortgage industry. He told me that if a customer was awful to deal with, they had a line item they could (AND DID) add to the tab. (He called it "the a$$hole tax" but it had an official sounding name--like Underwriting Courier Insurance Fee or something.) Not a single customer ever noticed or called it out. In the ER they could lump vaccines in with "vital fluids" or some such...
Jenna, I think the gal who wrote the No Consent form said hospitals refer to vaccines as “biologics” or something like that to disguise the truth.
Yup! There are a few different names… It’s in the linked story…😉
That's horrible! It's good I have no need for a mortgage (not that I would ever be an a$$hole about it) but I pray I never end up in a hospital.
Yup. My papers said I got a flu shot while in a hemotologist office last week. Unless it was by the finger oxy thingy, NOPE. Or it came out of the ventilation system. The printout I get did say I had no Covid jabs on record.
I think there's overcharging on top of all the other madness. It doesn't matter if you received the jab or not. Doctor don't get paid if they don't meet quotas so they lie. All very sad.
Although I don't condone dishonesty, I'd rather they lie about giving me a vaccine I don't want than to actually get the darn thing.
🎯🎯🎯
I agree. I would rather be charged than get jabbed. If it goes very badly it could cost you so much more.
Yep!
Go read the referenced link to 'I do not consent' as you specifically have to request paper, which they have to provide.
What they are supposed to do vs what they actually do are 2 different things. Sadly I've heard some hospitals have refused to print out the form. They give people no option other than to initial the ipad.
Personally I would fight for paper no matter what!
Every time they have me sign that invisible document I wonder how they can even legally rely on a signed document that the signer had no idea what they were signing. Every time. That thought rolls through my mind.
I think you have some printing to do before your Wednesday procedure.... maybe I should not only be the designated driver but offer to guard you during the procedure..... now I'm a little nervous! 😬
We’re in a very sad state, when avoiding hospitals and doctors is the best path to survive.
🎯💯@jpeach!
exactly how I feel!
This horrifies me for several reasons, mainly for perpetuating the idea that vaccines are so safe that we can conveniently bundle them into other procedures. (The same way they pressure pregnant women to take vaccines during their prenatal care). This protocol makes it impossible to separate vaccine reactions from surgery side effects. It also means families who are unaware their kids got a jab might vaccinate again at their primary care doc's office - which increases the risk of vaccine injury. The arrogance of this cavalier attitude is so dangerous and frankly, it's creepily close to entering the rape zone. If someone is unconscious, IT MEANS NO.
EXCELLENT POINTS!
🎯💯# TJ Goerlitz & Jenna McCarthy!
I would guess that the inability to separate vaccine side effects from surgery side effects was the whole point of it. And as for rape, they’ve been letting med students, residents, and interns perform gynecological exams on anesthetized women for decades. Shady shit is nothing new in medicine.
😧🤦♀️👀
WTF. Sorry for the profanity, but this is INSANITY! Our founding fathers are rolling in their graves. The ‘chip’ isn’t far away. This is a war between good and evil.
Well, we can all thank John McCain for not ending Obamacare!
Colorado hospitals admitted they vaccinated 18,000 children when they were unconscious or sedated. It was on a CHD post the same day.
My hemotologist visit last week said on my print out I got a flu shot. I was sitting in a chair awake the whole time and did not get a flu shot. Nor was I asked. I think I’d know. I’m going to ask if I can get ahold of someone. The record does correctly show i got ZERO Covid shots.
I included the CO stuff and WOW! I guess it's better for them to lie about giving it to you than to lie about NOT giving it to you?!?!
Sometimes I have to comment before I read the whole thing so I don’t forget. Emphasis on the “forget”. 😀. I think I was shocked but maybe not. Infuriated, yes. Sickened, yes. Desiring 24/7 vax delivery to the monsters doing this. Big YES. Or prison cells and I got a flu shot that never happened on my record and a charge, I assume.
Well, in healthcare they have a mantra: “If it wasn’t documented, it wasn’t done.” So, I guess the inverse is possible: “If it was documented, it was done.” Neither of these are legitimate proof that something was or wasn’t done.
Not to open another can of worms, but...Doctors receive ridiculously low payments for the care they provide by private insurers, Medicare, and Medicaid. That's because those entities control how much the doctors are allowed to bill for their services (sometimes called reasonable and customary charges). And then those approved charges are further reduced by the percentage stipulated by the patient's insurance contract (a doctor visit might be approved for $100, but the insurer is only required to pay 80% of that). None of that takes into consideration the costs the doctor must absorb just to maintain their practice, things like malpractice insurance, rent, medical staff, supplies, and people whose only job is to file claims, track payments, and bill patients for the amounts their insurer didn't pay. It wouldn't surprise me if insurers received claims for a few things the doctor didn't provide, like vaccinations or complex services in addition to an office visit. It's not honest and I wouldn't condone that. But I would understand the motivation. We're all ensnared in a system that greatly limits the quality of care we're given. Doctors see that just as their patients do. And most of them are as helpless as their patients to change it.
Maybe the office is “billing” for the flu shot. Fraud
$$$$$
Oh and is anyone doing a study to see how many adverse effects occur from this?? NO of course not because that would harm Big pHarma's profits. And hospitals don't care cause they got paid.
Whatever happened to Do No Harm?!
Apparently now a quaint suggestion.
🎯💯@ NewKid & The Great Santini!
Starting to wonder if your surveys should include the "You can't hate (BLANK) enough. I think it could be a natural fit most days.
"Apparently, getting your tonsils removed now comes with an optional side of Pfizer."
"Optional" just like the CDC schedule is only a "recommendation".
Some of you may have heard me quote my dear (embalmer) friend, Richard Hirschman - “we win this war from the bottom up, not the top down”.
https://badmedicinemovie.org/
“Bad Medicine follows the trail of hard evidence while laying out a step-by-step exposé of the tricks and tactics used to capture and control entire populations. Without understanding these methods we will remain vulnerable to future psychological operations.”
I will be promoting this film at a theater near me.
Join me in this effort. We have to fight this evil. 😈
Thanks for posting this, Laura! I may even try to attend the premiere. I can’t stand going to Beverly Thrills, but I could drag a few of my warriors and make it tolerable! 🤯❤️🙏
Wonderful Kat!
I would join you and your peeps if it wasn’t so far from NE Ohio. The premiere at the Malibu Film Festival is November 15th.
Yep! Malibu Film Festival in Beverly Thrills! 🤯😂
Anyway, I will definitely make a pitstop at The Beverly Hills Cheese Store to say hi to Tony and Norbert. The finest cheesemongers on the West Coast. Just stepping inside this cheese mecca is joy. 🤩
I like what you said, but now that we know the problem, we need to have solutions. Think health self awareness, (emphasis on the body actually being the Lord's temple) return of private/small consierge practice, no-excuses consierge emergency facility via subscription, legislation allowing the unobstructed existence of such concerns. My doctor is concierge, not currently accepting new patients, otherwise I'd happily post where allowed to.
Well said, John.
"This delightful initiative reportedly kicked off in October of 2020"
Of course it did. Routine "care" took a back seat to the "pandemic" for much of that year, and too many kids "fell behind" on their scheduled injections.
I sometimes wonder what the length of the average human lifespan would look like, as split between all-out, trust the science, medical intervention, and a well-researched, minimalist, longevity-focused strategy. The same perhaps with the latter being of considerably less drama and expense than the former? God knows!
My 22 yo daughter tried to take her life 2x this year - thankfully they were not immediately life threatening events, however she did cut herself. They gave her a “tetanus shot” BOTH TIMES. - of course a tetanus shot is not simply a tetanus shot - it’s a DPT combo vaccine. The hospital did this while she was sedated. She found out about it when reviewing her medical records after the fact. She was never vaccinated as a child, and despite her cries for help, she really doesn’t want to end her life - she was incredibly angry and felt violated. It’s unconscionable.
❤️😥
OMG! What a nightmare. So very sorry about all that she (and you) have been going through. 😢🙏💔
Hope your daughter finds a path forward out of all this.
Are you familiar, by any chance, with Dr. Ede's work on diet and mental health?
> https://www.diagnosisdiet.com/change-your-diet-change-your-mind
Wow!
🙏🙏🙏
Whatever happened to "my body, my choice"?
Ended at Covid. I’d have women laugh at me if I said my body my choice about the jab. Only works for abortion murder.
I hear ya. But, maybe it's time we "un-ended it."
I haven’t been met with that phrase for a while, but I’m past caring what they think. Bring it on. Lol.
All the F*cking above. My body, their choice. These corporations and the psychopaths running them literally think they own us.
For the sane, this is completely insane, but for the propagandized who havent looked behind the curtain, this is completely normal. There is a reason there are "flu shot" signs everywhere from gas stations to grocery stores to your local Costco. It's so "normal" to get your flu shot that getting it under another medical procedure is "convenient". It's the same reason why a lot of ignorant and well meaning parents give their kids 5-6 shots in one visit. Convenience.
Vee - every time I see one of those signs, it takes great restraint for me not to kick them over.
I'm with you! Or smash the screen with a rock. It's infuriating.
Makes me wonder…if they can give life-saving medical treatment to a car-accident victim who is brought in alone by ambulance, with no one to sign any forms, are the forms just a CYA for them after the fact, or are they actually pumping everyone full of this shite regardless of approval and just seeking approval from family later via “hospitalists” who should have never been invented because they aren’t doctors and aren’t bound by any medical ethics?
Doctors bound by ethics? Lol!
Actually, hospitalists are technically physicians. They just don’t have outside practices. That makes them suspicious as heck, and they are probably more likely to do what’s best for the facility, rather than the patient, but they are indeed doctors.
Ok, then if they ARE licensed doctors, and they protect the “needs” of the hospital (profits and liabilities) over the needs of the patient, then the Hippocratic oath means nothing and no one should ever trust any hospital ever again.
Which is probably where we actually are as a society and not everyone wants to see it yet.
Good points. And if we are smart we avoid being prey to such, ie:curbing aggresive behavior in traffic, stunting on youtube, maxxing out capability, the list goes on.....
Most of these hospitals are also "nonprofits." What a joke. I have no affiliations with any hospitals and I do my best to keep my patients out of hospitals.
Thank you, Dr. Molly! We need many, many more of you! 🙏😇
Do you practice in Utah? Looking for a trustworthy doctor.
This makes me so damn MAD!! How dare they?? I’d like to drop kick anybody who treats my health, my decisions & my rights as some sort of lame suggestion!! I’d really would rather face a firing squad, than deal with any hospital employee!!
Damn! Love it! I would like to drop kick most of them right off a cliff! Complete morons!