You should be fucking embarrassed for writing this. It has none of your usual wit and insight. You're obviously jealous of Candace,and would never have the courage to do what she does.
She's 100% right on Macron's gender, Israel, and mostly right about everything surrounding Charlie Kirk's murder by Israeli agents ( though she hasn't dotted all the i's and crossed all the t's)
I felt sad reading your pathetic, envious snark. Passive aggressive mean girl shit.
***“Pinning so future commenters know the bar for unintentional comedy is already very high***
Carlos! Thanks for taking the time to power through all of my embarrassing, not funny, not insightful, passive-aggressive mean-girl shit. Your commitment is admirable.
FWIW, sometimes a piece calls for satire, sometimes slapstick, and sometimes simply holding up a mirror and letting people draw their own conclusions. (Also, and I'm not sure if you are aware of this, the option to MOVE ALONG is almost always available to you as a reader.)
Do please share what YOU do for a living so my other readers and I can offer suggestions for how to do it better.
(*Was that passive aggressive? Sorry, it's a character flaw.)
Oh, my goodness, that was an epic response! LingOL!!! So good. You are so good. And your response completely decimated everything he accused you of! HAHAHA
"Do please share what YOU do for a living so my other readers and I can offer suggestions for how to do it better." That was so good I had to read it several times and laugh.
Don't feel "stupid!" Jenna taught that one to me and I had to ask the Internet what it meant. It's LaughING Out Loud. I, and she, thinks it's more accurate than just "LOL." Cool, huh? I'm going to use it here on out.
You pinned it!! 😂 You cheeky, wonderful woman! I am sincerely proud of you. Fantastic response to an otherwise waste of comment space coming from a hapless troll.
LOL I know I shouldn't... it's like publishing the school shooter's name and mugshot giving them their little brush with fame... but I'm powerless to resist. ;)
🤣 “you’re obviously jealous of Candace and never have the courage to do what she does” Has Carlos read your books? I think not. LOL I’m dying over the sheer juvenile stupidity of that comment.
Anyway, I think it would be the other way around. Candace is completely and wholly incapable of ever writing witty like you and would possess no ability whatsoever to ascertain when it is called for and when it is not. The one holding traits worthy of being envied is you, my dear.
Anyone accusing you of jealousy is suffering from that affliction themselves. 🤣🤣
Frightening. The highest profile assassination in 6 decades, done in public for all to see, covered up by our own government, with gaslighting and demonization of anyone who does not believe the unbelievable narrative, and people are upset that one of the few people trying to get to the bottom of it and hold people accountable is "mean," "doesn't know grieving," is "picking on a widow," et al, et al. What have we become? The perpetrators covering this up could not ask for better results than what I am reading in the comments. And who can blame Candace if she gets a bit testy (which she does rarely) when the entire media and most "conservative" commentators oppose her or call her vile, disgusting things (Bongino, Tim Pool, Levine, etc.) while she does what they should be doing? And how can anyone think this is a non-event? "Just move on," "I'm bored," etc., when people in power can murder who they please with impunity, and destroy all who oppose? Have we really become a nation of emoting babies? If our Founding Fathers had an ounce of this in them we would never have gained our freedom. God help us.
Apparently your emotions got in the way of civilly stating your opinion. While I disagree with your opinion, you have a right to say it, but it could have been done without the strong intent to insult. It is irrational comments like yours is why so many of us can’t stand libs. I could have respected your opinion if it was stated in a respectful way. I would have agreed to disagree, but now I don’t. *You* are the one who should be embarrassed.
That's moving that you outed yourself, Carlos. It should be crystal clear that you are unwelcome on this platform. We do not entertain this sort of discourse. Ad hominem character attacks are unacceptable behaviour. And, “lame” is reserved for comments over at Bluesky. They will adore you.
"conservative"?... No! I'd say that your inappropriate, vulgar, and pejorative language, along with your unbridled vitriol, puts you in a very narrow category... A "Slipshod Troll" would be my estimation... and that's putting it politely
Have you been busy putting out fires elsewhere that your "inappropriate, vulgar, and pejorative language, along with your unbridled vitriol" has kindled, or did it actually take you this long to respond with the intellectual maturity and verbal acuity of a tween?
None of what Jenna said ever suggested any "jealousy" on her part to me.
Your second comment "she's 100% right..." is 100% negated by the ending of that sentence "(though she hasn't dotted all the i's and crossed all the t's)". You ABSOLUTELY have to dot all the i's and cross all the t's to be 100% right about something. Until you've reached under Macron's skirt and grabbed her by the balls, you will never be 100% sure about his/her gender. True, Candace makes a compelling case - one which Macron could easily dispel and hasn't, to my knowledge - but it still lives in the land of speculation, because there are just some things we'll never know.
You may want to try on the idea of living in a world based on educated guesses, rather than 100% sureties. Something like "I'm 90% convinced that Candace is on the right track about Macron, based on everything I've researched about this subject". Try "seems to be" as opposed to "is" - then your statements will make sense, and you can proudly take your place along with the rest of us in this world where less and less can be 100% known with every passing day.
It may be uncomfortable at first, but in short order your new-found humility will feel right at home and you'll be more confident than ever, knowing you're making statements that are relative to your current knowledge and experience base, rather than unproveable statements about an entire universe of things you can never know.
AMEN to all of this. The absolutism KILLSSSSSSS me. And the funny thing is, I agree with Candace more than I disagree with her. I just think she can be cruel. (I tried to NOT take one side absolutely, because I have always said there is literally nothing I'd deem "impossible." Nothing.)
Excellent. Carlos may lump you into the “lame rebuttal” pile. However, I have enjoyed your response and that of everyone else who respectfully joined in here. That is what I love about this forum!
Carlos, I suggest that you read what you wrote out-loud to yourself and hear how that sounds. And ask your self, would I say that to Jenna’s face in person? And just because I feel like writing…..have you ever heard of the “sandwich technique” when wanting to convey a criticism? (Preferably without the profanity and gratuitous character attacks.) First say something positive. (Bread slice) Then impart the difference-of-opinion. (The meat) Then close with something that holds the two preceding parts together. (Bread) It can preserve the relationship, if desired. AND reign in possibly destructive comments. You have the opposite technique.
LingOL! I raised my girls with the "compliment sandwich" approach to life. Got invited to a party you'd rather swallow thumbtacks than attend? "Piper! It was so nice of you to invite me to your party. Unfortunately, I won't be able to make it. I hope you have the best time ever!" or "Thanks for making dinner, mom! You know that lima beans aren't my favorite, so I appreciate you making my favorite potatoes, too." Boom. ;)
😂 Rather swallow thumbtacks! You are so funny!! I have written quite a few of what I considered “the well-crafted letter” employing “the sandwich.” It has been especially helpful when it is necessary to gracefully end a relationship with a client. In other words, cut them loose. It does not, however, ensure a positive response, in my experience. Crafting the letter gives me time to process and reflect and type and delete and be who I really want to be ….. which is the actual purpose.
Pobre bebé. You came here expecting comedy, didn't get it, and now think it is appropriate to harass the writer because YOU aren't mature enough to control your emotions. CLEARLY, thinking isn't your strong suit. Did that mean ol' Jenna hold a gun to your head or grab you by the neck and force you to read here? Grow up and get over yourself already. Life is tough. Misery is optional.
Why are you using two different accounts when replying here? That right there is very suspicious and it immediately discredits and makes unworthy any opinions you hold. Sad and disturbing at the same time.
This is part of the Deep State. Sorry to inform you. The Deep State is a huge spider web and this is one integral part of that web of lies. There are too many people involved and too many "Coincidences".
One of the only things fracturing us is that the other black pill influencers are making anything of one that they do not like. Just like Nick Fuentes. If others don't attack he slinks back down to a nobody.
But I do agree with you, I will pay attention to the big picture. President Trump is doing a great job. But it is a job for an army, which he has. I am still on Trust the Plan, even though is is difficult most days not seeing any accountability in public yet. But I am hopeful it will come soon. We don't have much time left.
I wish we could dismantle the whole stinking deep state. I don't know what kind of men and women are involved with the deep state but to be part of so many things that are depraved, I suggest they are Satanic and thrive on chaos which is beyond abnormal.
I have actively avoided this topic, because it really is - as you aptly pointed out - all about the drama, which I lost interest in as a young teen with the whole 'Who shot JR?" fiasco. But two things do stand out...
1) The highly-creepy picture of Erica holding her husband's hand in the coffin; it's really hard to get past that
2) The (allegedly coordinated) attack of Candace by MAGA Inc™ over the last 36 hours; too many similarities in the phrasing of each post to be coincidence.
While Candace's oft-unhinged rants make it difficult to trust her, I trust those attacking her (Loomer, Levin, Feline Defecation, etc) even less, so what the blazes SHOULD I think?
I think... I'll have a very-unhealthy Egg McMuffin for breakfast, and instead focus on the fact my city council is about to do something stupid.
You know... LOCAL things ;-) Great work, as always...
-- I was referring to the weirdly-dogmatic MAGA "influencers" on X, those with big platforms and bigger mouths; that's why I called them "MAGA Inc™" to differentiate them from regular folks ('commoners' like you and me) who are MAGA.
-- As for the hand pic, I cannot explain it. I have seen photos like that which are genuinely heartbreaking, but something about that specific one set off all kinds of heebie-jeebies in my gut; to be honest, it is still does. It wasn't a pre-determined reaction, because I honestly did not know much about Charlie - and knew nothing about his wife - before his assassination, but something about that pic just hit my instincts... wrong. I know that does not make a lot of sense, but I learned along time ago to trust my instincts, so I do.
Anyhow, hope that clears things up... at least somewhat.
I always say follow your gut...instincts were given to us by God so I respect your sharing about what you felt when seeing the pictures. I get the same feeling when I see Yuval Harari of the WEF. Glad you enjoyed your bfast!
Indeed, black eyes and talking about transhumanism. I am not convinced he is human. I have such a huge visceral response when I see him or hear him. All my hairs stand on end. For all I know, he may be a bot. I just know something is wrong with him.
And everyone on the planet could see those "dead hands of Charlies" were actually WAY TOO SMALL to be his, even in death. Hand size doesn't change. That wasn't his body!
Whosever hands they were: They appeared to be covered in makeup which failed to completely cover several (alleged) burn marks clearly pictured in photos taken of Charlie's body being hauled to a waiting SUV between 10 and 12 seconds after whatever the heck took him out on that day.
Just saying.
Those distinctive marks on his hands which only appeared after the incident in question are still visible on the hands that were filmed in that casket.
Charlie was assasinated and the world was immediately fed a ridiculous story of a lone gunman stuffing a 30-06 in his pants, disassembling and reassembling it, etc., etc. We are all being played as utter fools and anyone questioning the narrative is demonized. TPUSA and EK, of all people, should be the first to question the lies and attempt to get to the bottom of who killed CK. But no, they join the gaslighting and lie with the liars. The whole thing stinks to high-heaven. Do those who say "just move on" think assasinations and govt coverups are no big deal? But hey, the stock market is over 50k! And how many are now omniscient and know for a fact the motives of Candace. Would that our govt had as much resolve to solve this murder case as Candace and would that more pundits would stop participating in the gaslighting.
The internet has made all of us attention whores. Some are worse than others, but as a whole, (no, I'm not speaking directly to you, whoever gets offended first), people have decided it's their right and liberty to dissect other people for whatever it is they think they're doing wrong. Even I, (and I really do try to see the other side of things always), have considered posting my thoughts on something I know absolutely nothing about. Was I there? Do I know them personally? Is it a fact, or a fact in my own mind? Those are the questions people should ask themselves before commenting on someone else's life. And yet, I get it. The internet, the news and people who privately report on things like this are what we have to go on. So what else are we to do? We believe what typically aligns with our belief system, not always what is fact. In either case, how someone mourns is not up to me to judge. My boyfriend lost his wife 3 years ago and got through it partially by playing a game with a bunch of other men online. I don't know that that is how I would have grieved, but I'm thankful he had those men to get through some of it. Bottom line is this.... Candace Owens used to impress me. Now I think she's just doing what she feels she has to do to stay relevant.
I play a game called Minecraft with a man who lost his wife three years ago. He usually plays it with a bunch of other guys (family members) but we hit it off as friends before his wife died and so stay connected that way. He has a daughter and a son that I played with too before their mom passed away.
I actually dealt with losing my relationship with my daughter through gaming. Since she is still out there rejecting me, I lose her all over again every morning I wake up. So it stays raw and never dulls. It’s been 11 years now. That’s a long time to carry fresh, raw pain.
I couldn’t (still can’t) deal with the pain of losing her from my life, and the silly but creative play of that game helps me escape the grief on occasion, giving me a much needed reprieve.
Yes the enemy successfully ripped our family apart and knew exactly what would destroy my heart. Taking my first born from me and turning her against me.
It’s so hard to describe the pain of that.
I see no light at the end of the tunnel. I’ve had friends in the past assure me she’d outgrow it and come around (as their own kids did) but it never happened. Those friends grew silent and distant, as if we had leprosy, so we lost them too. Sadly what was missing from our daughter’s life was more adults (friends and family) defending us to her and impressing upon her the same values we were. That’s how their kids came around, because they had that, ours didn’t. So our daughter fell prey to the influence of peers and a wrecked society wanting to tear families apart.
Our sons barely survived it, and if not for witnessing what happened with our daughter we would have lost them too. I thank God for that.
I appreciate the prayer, as only a true miracle by God can change our circumstances. I patiently but anxiously await said miracle.
That is the sweetest thing I think I've heard in a long time! He is a huge blessing in my life and I am so grateful to God for bringing us together. Thank you for your kind words. ❤️
The fact that the FBI along with TPUSA wrapped up this case so quickly without seemingly any further investigation or any questions ( even though before Candace started talking , the case was and is weak against Tyler Robinson, a lone shooter ?? Right … wrong !!!) …. Is a signal to me that something about the whole case is not what it seems at all which is why Candace investigation is believable. Is she making too many assumptions? Yes . Wonder if she is right in all that she is saying? Hasn’t the world been lying to us forever about everything ? What did we learn from Covid ? We are being lied to , even from our own govt . If they cover up something, then something is not quite right. And. , though I don’t like her fierce attack against EK, I don’t trust EK at all .
The perpetrators (including elites) are jumping for joy they can get away with the highest profile assassination in decades while convincing people to "move on" and avoid looking further because of a grieving widow. We should avoid distractions, yes, but some things are more important than mere distractions.
I didn’t vote in the poll bcs frankly, I don’t care. Didn’t even know about the docuseries until now. The media is dumb and will regurgitate whatever dumb narrative is spoon fed to them by their masters and their sheeple will gleefully gobble it up until it fades and the next big (not!) thing rolls around. Yawn.
But…I admittedly CANNOT get enough of AOC’s mumbling and stumbling on the world stage in Munich last week. Now THAT was a SHOW.
Then she had to call a NYT writer to dry her tears and blame others. I will truly question a persons grip on reality if they feel she’s a serious candidate. 🤮
Jenna, I was going to post my 'How the Fake Charlie Kirk Shooting Was Done' links but then i saw your note asking Conspiracy Theorists not to comment.
Just a reminder Jenna, that it was the CTs who were the first people screaming "Do NOT take the OWS vaxxines!".
As Republican Senator John Neely Kennedy said "I believe that we are going to have to get some new conspiracy theories. All the old ones turned out to be true".
Oh I’m a card-carrying conspiracy theorist, just last time some delicate readers got very offended by that line of thinking so I was trying to preempt that. I will admit all day every day that NOTHING is impossible. Literally nothing.
"increasingly unhinged"?!!!!! NO NO NO! She HAS the receipts. One can't argue with leaked videos and texts. Everyone witnessed the leather pants, the glitter outfits, the fireworks. Erika is completely unhinged, with CIA ties on top! NO ONE other than Candace is seeking the answers to Charlie's death. How can people put their head in the sand: THE CAMERAS WERE REMOVED IN FIVE MINUTES AND WITHIN FIVE DAYS THEY HAD CEMENTED OVER THE CRIME SCENE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh trust me, I believe that the whole thing is SUUUUUUUUPER SUS. And I actually used to be a Candace... I wouldn't say FAN but I'd watch/listen on occasion--and I agreed with a lot of her stances (on Disney, vaccines, the scamdemic, and transgenderism, for example). And I absolutely DO admire her desire to get to the truth (and think Erika's lack of interest in it is odd). I just think she's got mean-girl energy (funny that a commenter just accused ME of that LOL!). Did you catch her feud with Jessica Reed Kraus? It was so cringe I had to unfollow both of them!
I agree that Candace can come across as "mean girl", but I feel for her. She was such a good friend of Charlie's and I know this is just heartbreaking for her. We are all devastated, but with their history, I'm sure she's so much worse! I'm not watching any of her detractors because I believe she is on to something and if *they* don't kill her, she'll eventually get to the truth!
I haven’t chosen either side yet. I’m just remaining open-minded, and unfortunately bored by the whole thing now - and I LOVE Charlie, always have. If anything, what Candace is doing is short circuiting my attention to the drama she’s peddling. It’s having the opposite effect I’m sure she hopes she’s having, and that’s her fault.
But the one thing I don’t understand is how easy it is for some people to respect Candace’s relationship with Charlie and therefore her “mourning,” but not his own wife’s? He chose Erika to marry, NOT Candace. If those who have chosen to believe Candace’s perspectives openly respected Erika and her mourning as his spouse, I might be more open to their opinions. There’s a lot of odd things surrounding this, but that’s an oddity that is just as deserving of attention: why she isn’t being given the same sympathy being given to Candace? How ludicrous and heartless is that?
A thought on your comment above: I have to constantly remind myself that most of what I know, certainly all of what I know about people I've not met, I learned online.
Online. Disconnected from the human person. Open to every sort of deception...and that was before AI deep fakes. Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics.
So, I'm not even sure what to believe about this alleged feud between Owens and Kirk.
If there is a coverup, and the government is lying to us (should we ever start with the assumption the government is telling the truth? seems foolish), then I hope we do find out. The more of these secret goings on (and I'm not saying Kirk's murder is that...just might be) we can shed light on, the more likely it is we might actually find our way back to the right path as a Nation.
I believe any truth can be uncovered without the need to drag a widow through the mud before indisputable proof of her deserving it. She was never given the grace of being allowed to mourn normally, for even a reasonable amount of time, before Candace started to attack her and give permission to her followers to also pick Erika apart like ravenous vultures. This of course added fuel to all the Left’s haters of Charlie and his beliefs because they could continue to attack him by attacking his wife even more strongly thanks to Candace, and for that I am displeased with her.
I saw things within weeks of Charlie’s death that I thought were odd too, but that’s because I’m a different kind of person with a different set of life experiences. Would I wear tight leather pants so soon after my husband’s death while grieving for him? No. But then I wouldn’t wear them any other time either. Lol. That’s no sign that she is some heartless demon faking her grief, or responsible for his murder, it’s just a sign of a different lifestyle and possibly a bit of immaturity due to age/generation, trying to stay hip with his organization that is very young. Would I care if my mascara ran and smeared during an interview? Probably not, I would let the world see my brokenness. But seeing that in Erika would make a LOT of leftist lunatics pant and salivate in satisfaction because they feed on the destruction of Charlie and his family, and I think Erika wanted to deprive them of that victory. And she basically did. Yeah it meant she would be mocked for caring more how she looked than her loss, but I don’t think that’s why she did it.
I made a LOT of social/public faux pas at her age that I still cringe over my memory of today and wish I could turn back the clock so the memory of it weren’t in so many other people’s minds. I bet she will look back in twenty years and cringe herself. While she may be spiritually mature, she might be culturally immature. It’s possible. That was me to a T. It’s not a sign that she didn’t really love Charlie and therefore Candace’s grief is more meaningful than hers, yet that’s what Candace’s fans do with that info. That’s mean-girl energy.
And some cultures give the widow a full year to grieve for goodness sake! (My Greek relatives). She wasn’t even given a couple weeks! She had to balance her own grief, the grieving of her family and protection of her children, the grieving of Charlie’s employees, and the grieving of his followers. That’s a LOT on a widow’s plate. Then at the same time she had to decide the best way to keep his mission alive and not let the evil doers win what they wanted - the utter and complete destruction of his vision AND his family. I can understand the grit and determination to prevent that last part. I can see myself doing that exact same thing and focusing all my energy fiercely on that rather than the pain in my heart. None of us have ever been in her exact circumstances. Yeah she gave off Tammy Faye Vibes at some points, but again … she hadn’t yet done anything deserving of being perceived as the same. A vibe due to our visual memory of Tammy is not enough.
The persecution of Erika and her reputation, and so quickly after her husband’s death, is what is unacceptable to me. If she is guilty of anything, it can be exposed just the same without being evil shits ourselves. Sort of like, if you have to break the law yourself to prove someone else did, who is more guilty and shitty? I’d say both equally; it muddies the waters.
I don’t trust people who earn money by attacking another person before there’s any solid proof they are guilty and deserving of it. Speculation is all Candace has. Some of it may be very good speculation, but it’s far from actual proof. And that’s wrong. She’s too impatient to render judgment, so she disobeys Gods command to care for the widow and children and justifies it with her weaving. God warned us against doing that to each other.
Erika’s grief over losing Charlie is far more meaningful than Candace’s. If we can feel for how Candace feels over losing Charlie but can’t offer that same feeling and compassion to his actual wife, then what kind of people are we? Nothing good is what I say.
That depends on your interpretation of the Bible. 1 Thessalonians 4:16 says that upon the return of Jesus the dead in Christ shall rise first. Before those still alive, Christ will take them up first because He cares that deeply for them. That implies they are asleep in death until he returns, that their bodies will be reunited with their spirits in that moment. To them, it will seem as if they are with him the instant they die, the same way we feel when we awake after sleeping all night, as if 7-8 hours was the blink of an eye. But they are unaware of all that is happening until that day.
Others believe the spirits of the dead are with Christ in heaven instantly and therefore aware of all that is going on in the earth.
But when I read Christ’s actions, words about, and reactions to the death of loved ones when he walked this earth, I get the sense that they are asleep until he returns. That’s why it never made sense to me to pray to Mother Mary or the Saints because I believe they are still asleep in Christ, and because I can pray directly to both Jesus and God the Father. Intercession never made sense to me since God will always listen to me directly. However, intercession by those alive does make sense: where two or more are gathered in my name I will hear their prayers.
But … I understand why and respect those who interpret it differently and therefore their practices of prayer.
I've not thought deeply or well about the afterlife, but love hearing what thoughtful, prayerful people think. My gut-thought has always been, "how could a person, a soul, be perfectly happy in God's presence if they were still connected somehow with all the suffering of those they love?" They are angels, not God.
I don't know that my gut thought here is Biblically based but it's what I've felt for a long time.
Elizabeth Lane characterized Erika as a predator using Charlie as a stepping stone for her own advancement. A narcissistic psychopath! I agree with her post which was thoughtful and carefully constructed. Candace taking something that may have validity and going over the top seems at par these days. Likewise, the over the top response from opposing views. I listen to neither. As usual, these catfights require stepping back quite a bit to see each for the blind tribally oriented individuals seeking the next set of clicks they are addicted to. It is important to always keep in mind that their personal income is highly dependent on how much they boost views regardless of the factual.
I recognized Erika's demeanor the first time she spoke after Charlie's death. It was manufactured grief The eye contact and body language were completely out of sync with what she said. It just struck me how contrived it was. Eliz Lane's analysis firmed up what I saw. I see the same in every Erika talk since. Once you see it, just can't ignore it.
Your link is how I found it. Stunning how it resonated with my first exposure to Erika. I have saved the link with a copy of the X post to reference an insight in my thinking. Thank you.
Promethean has brought James Logan to light. Worth knowing that those who were 'based' were fighting the 'unbased' then although the wording is different the perception remains.
Keep listening carefully and always compare what someone says with how they behave. I takes a while to self-train your intuition. Once you capture one or two individuals who don't seem internally connected, words vs behavior, facial expression, you will suddenly see it often enough to trust your own judgement independent of anyone else.
Wanna bet this whole thing turns out like the highly anticipated opening of Al Capone’s vault by Geraldo Rivera in 1986? I was totally sucked in, waiting for the big reveal, then…nothing. To say it was a disappointment is an insult to the word disappointment.
You should be fucking embarrassed for writing this. It has none of your usual wit and insight. You're obviously jealous of Candace,and would never have the courage to do what she does.
She's 100% right on Macron's gender, Israel, and mostly right about everything surrounding Charlie Kirk's murder by Israeli agents ( though she hasn't dotted all the i's and crossed all the t's)
I felt sad reading your pathetic, envious snark. Passive aggressive mean girl shit.
***“Pinning so future commenters know the bar for unintentional comedy is already very high***
Carlos! Thanks for taking the time to power through all of my embarrassing, not funny, not insightful, passive-aggressive mean-girl shit. Your commitment is admirable.
FWIW, sometimes a piece calls for satire, sometimes slapstick, and sometimes simply holding up a mirror and letting people draw their own conclusions. (Also, and I'm not sure if you are aware of this, the option to MOVE ALONG is almost always available to you as a reader.)
Do please share what YOU do for a living so my other readers and I can offer suggestions for how to do it better.
(*Was that passive aggressive? Sorry, it's a character flaw.)
Oh, my goodness, that was an epic response! LingOL!!! So good. You are so good. And your response completely decimated everything he accused you of! HAHAHA
"Do please share what YOU do for a living so my other readers and I can offer suggestions for how to do it better." That was so good I had to read it several times and laugh.
LingOL right back! (Although can we talk about those four people who LIKED CARLOS' COMMENT? Who are you? OUT YOURSELVES, YOU COWARDS!!!)
HAHAHAHA! (And thanks for introducing me to the "LingOL" text abbrev. It is so much more expressive and fun.)
Not to mention ACCURATE hahahahaha!
Job of Politics is to do what?
Create a quorum/team/following (people/product(s)).
Job of the Cabal/Dark State/Power?
Divide and conquer (protect the 'system' they've put in place).
Candace (and glyphosphate/Kennedy for that matter) are doing there parts magically (people/product(s).
Thus the airtime provided in (now who owns this?) the Media.
Jenna, please keep the fun and humor rolling.
Without you, we'd all have gone gun shopping by now. LOL
You had me ROARING in laughter !!! You are such a rare talent.
Don’t you already know?
Not really? (Am I dumb? #rhetoricalquestion ;)
What is LingOL? Just curious as I’ve never run across this. Is it someone’s name? Sorry feeling stupid today LOL
Don't feel "stupid!" Jenna taught that one to me and I had to ask the Internet what it meant. It's LaughING Out Loud. I, and she, thinks it's more accurate than just "LOL." Cool, huh? I'm going to use it here on out.
Thank you, thank you, thank you. Some days I swear my brain is entirely in a state of fog! You’re so kind and I so appreciate you
My pleasure! (And no, I don't work for Chik-fil-A LingOL!)
Funny, back in the day my wife thought that LOL meant Lots Of Love. What does Jenna have for THAT?
Hmnnnn...would that be "LotsOL?" LingOL
You pinned it!! 😂 You cheeky, wonderful woman! I am sincerely proud of you. Fantastic response to an otherwise waste of comment space coming from a hapless troll.
LOL I know I shouldn't... it's like publishing the school shooter's name and mugshot giving them their little brush with fame... but I'm powerless to resist. ;)
Thank you, Jenna, for pinning the tail on the donkey. :) Look at all of the lively, enjoyable, intelligent peeps that showed up to engage! Love it!
It's always fun to see who'll defend me! :)
🤣 “you’re obviously jealous of Candace and never have the courage to do what she does” Has Carlos read your books? I think not. LOL I’m dying over the sheer juvenile stupidity of that comment.
Anyway, I think it would be the other way around. Candace is completely and wholly incapable of ever writing witty like you and would possess no ability whatsoever to ascertain when it is called for and when it is not. The one holding traits worthy of being envied is you, my dear.
Anyone accusing you of jealousy is suffering from that affliction themselves. 🤣🤣
Frightening. The highest profile assassination in 6 decades, done in public for all to see, covered up by our own government, with gaslighting and demonization of anyone who does not believe the unbelievable narrative, and people are upset that one of the few people trying to get to the bottom of it and hold people accountable is "mean," "doesn't know grieving," is "picking on a widow," et al, et al. What have we become? The perpetrators covering this up could not ask for better results than what I am reading in the comments. And who can blame Candace if she gets a bit testy (which she does rarely) when the entire media and most "conservative" commentators oppose her or call her vile, disgusting things (Bongino, Tim Pool, Levine, etc.) while she does what they should be doing? And how can anyone think this is a non-event? "Just move on," "I'm bored," etc., when people in power can murder who they please with impunity, and destroy all who oppose? Have we really become a nation of emoting babies? If our Founding Fathers had an ounce of this in them we would never have gained our freedom. God help us.
100%
Amen Sista Jenna! 💪🏽
Apparently your emotions got in the way of civilly stating your opinion. While I disagree with your opinion, you have a right to say it, but it could have been done without the strong intent to insult. It is irrational comments like yours is why so many of us can’t stand libs. I could have respected your opinion if it was stated in a respectful way. I would have agreed to disagree, but now I don’t. *You* are the one who should be embarrassed.
CatsRtheBest, this is a reply to Carlos, right? I just want to be 100% clear before I give a ❤️.
Yep! Thanks!
Glad KC & the Sunshine clarified that for us!
I would choose the “move along” option, Carlos. Jenna has more courage in the tip of her baby finger than you have in your entire sad being.
No, please run along now because your true calling lies over there in Bluesky land.
These rebuttals are all lame.
And I'm a conservative:)
That's moving that you outed yourself, Carlos. It should be crystal clear that you are unwelcome on this platform. We do not entertain this sort of discourse. Ad hominem character attacks are unacceptable behaviour. And, “lame” is reserved for comments over at Bluesky. They will adore you.
Notice the different colored avatar in the two 'Carlos' posts.
OOOh! Interesting!
Telling!
GOOD Catch!!!~
pot meet kettle
I guess if “the shoe fits!”
LingOL, your OP was lame. Come on, Carlos, if you're a conservative, we're all allies, right? So why engage in vitriol like the left does?
"conservative"?... No! I'd say that your inappropriate, vulgar, and pejorative language, along with your unbridled vitriol, puts you in a very narrow category... A "Slipshod Troll" would be my estimation... and that's putting it politely
Yeah, leave the cool monikers to someone else. That’s pretty lame.
Have you been busy putting out fires elsewhere that your "inappropriate, vulgar, and pejorative language, along with your unbridled vitriol" has kindled, or did it actually take you this long to respond with the intellectual maturity and verbal acuity of a tween?
You ARE “something.” Not quite sure what you are smiling about.
Hey Carlos, chill dude...
None of what Jenna said ever suggested any "jealousy" on her part to me.
Your second comment "she's 100% right..." is 100% negated by the ending of that sentence "(though she hasn't dotted all the i's and crossed all the t's)". You ABSOLUTELY have to dot all the i's and cross all the t's to be 100% right about something. Until you've reached under Macron's skirt and grabbed her by the balls, you will never be 100% sure about his/her gender. True, Candace makes a compelling case - one which Macron could easily dispel and hasn't, to my knowledge - but it still lives in the land of speculation, because there are just some things we'll never know.
You may want to try on the idea of living in a world based on educated guesses, rather than 100% sureties. Something like "I'm 90% convinced that Candace is on the right track about Macron, based on everything I've researched about this subject". Try "seems to be" as opposed to "is" - then your statements will make sense, and you can proudly take your place along with the rest of us in this world where less and less can be 100% known with every passing day.
It may be uncomfortable at first, but in short order your new-found humility will feel right at home and you'll be more confident than ever, knowing you're making statements that are relative to your current knowledge and experience base, rather than unproveable statements about an entire universe of things you can never know.
It worked for me.
AMEN to all of this. The absolutism KILLSSSSSSS me. And the funny thing is, I agree with Candace more than I disagree with her. I just think she can be cruel. (I tried to NOT take one side absolutely, because I have always said there is literally nothing I'd deem "impossible." Nothing.)
What did that Star Wars dude say about Siths? Only they believe in absolutes.
Excellent. Carlos may lump you into the “lame rebuttal” pile. However, I have enjoyed your response and that of everyone else who respectfully joined in here. That is what I love about this forum!
Same! (And thanks for saying so!)
This is not someone whom will take to any appeals to reason.
Carlos, I suggest that you read what you wrote out-loud to yourself and hear how that sounds. And ask your self, would I say that to Jenna’s face in person? And just because I feel like writing…..have you ever heard of the “sandwich technique” when wanting to convey a criticism? (Preferably without the profanity and gratuitous character attacks.) First say something positive. (Bread slice) Then impart the difference-of-opinion. (The meat) Then close with something that holds the two preceding parts together. (Bread) It can preserve the relationship, if desired. AND reign in possibly destructive comments. You have the opposite technique.
LingOL! I raised my girls with the "compliment sandwich" approach to life. Got invited to a party you'd rather swallow thumbtacks than attend? "Piper! It was so nice of you to invite me to your party. Unfortunately, I won't be able to make it. I hope you have the best time ever!" or "Thanks for making dinner, mom! You know that lima beans aren't my favorite, so I appreciate you making my favorite potatoes, too." Boom. ;)
😂 Rather swallow thumbtacks! You are so funny!! I have written quite a few of what I considered “the well-crafted letter” employing “the sandwich.” It has been especially helpful when it is necessary to gracefully end a relationship with a client. In other words, cut them loose. It does not, however, ensure a positive response, in my experience. Crafting the letter gives me time to process and reflect and type and delete and be who I really want to be ….. which is the actual purpose.
LOVE THIS.
Pobre bebé. You came here expecting comedy, didn't get it, and now think it is appropriate to harass the writer because YOU aren't mature enough to control your emotions. CLEARLY, thinking isn't your strong suit. Did that mean ol' Jenna hold a gun to your head or grab you by the neck and force you to read here? Grow up and get over yourself already. Life is tough. Misery is optional.
Carlos, I did not get that from Jenna at all. Why the vulgar wording?
Wow, you actually believe all the BS Candice peddles…you really do need to move along. She is a grifter extraordinaire
Basement dwelling Russian/Chinese/Iranian bot
Why are you using two different accounts when replying here? That right there is very suspicious and it immediately discredits and makes unworthy any opinions you hold. Sad and disturbing at the same time.
I went with “Candace being Candace” for the poll, but only because “Who even cares” wasn’t an option.
Ditto.
Yes.
Who even cares. 👍🏻 Honestly didn’t know anything about a Daily Mail thing; still don’t.
I’m on the sidelines for the Candace vs. Erika prize fight. I’ll stay focused on President Trump’s efforts to dismantle the Deep State.
This is part of the Deep State. Sorry to inform you. The Deep State is a huge spider web and this is one integral part of that web of lies. There are too many people involved and too many "Coincidences".
One of the only things fracturing us is that the other black pill influencers are making anything of one that they do not like. Just like Nick Fuentes. If others don't attack he slinks back down to a nobody.
But I do agree with you, I will pay attention to the big picture. President Trump is doing a great job. But it is a job for an army, which he has. I am still on Trust the Plan, even though is is difficult most days not seeing any accountability in public yet. But I am hopeful it will come soon. We don't have much time left.
I wish we could dismantle the whole stinking deep state. I don't know what kind of men and women are involved with the deep state but to be part of so many things that are depraved, I suggest they are Satanic and thrive on chaos which is beyond abnormal.
I agree that Erika and Candace are both DS constructs. I’m not getting distracted by the DS PysOp.
I have actively avoided this topic, because it really is - as you aptly pointed out - all about the drama, which I lost interest in as a young teen with the whole 'Who shot JR?" fiasco. But two things do stand out...
1) The highly-creepy picture of Erica holding her husband's hand in the coffin; it's really hard to get past that
2) The (allegedly coordinated) attack of Candace by MAGA Inc™ over the last 36 hours; too many similarities in the phrasing of each post to be coincidence.
While Candace's oft-unhinged rants make it difficult to trust her, I trust those attacking her (Loomer, Levin, Feline Defecation, etc) even less, so what the blazes SHOULD I think?
I think... I'll have a very-unhealthy Egg McMuffin for breakfast, and instead focus on the fact my city council is about to do something stupid.
You know... LOCAL things ;-) Great work, as always...
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I am a MAGA but have not attacked either Candace or Erica.
What was creepy to you about Erica holding Charlie's hand Stone?
I did the same when my mom passed. My mom's lovely hand that cared for her family so many years, those beautiful hands.
Good luck with the city council and enjoy the egg mcmuffin!
Fair questions, Lori...
-- I was referring to the weirdly-dogmatic MAGA "influencers" on X, those with big platforms and bigger mouths; that's why I called them "MAGA Inc™" to differentiate them from regular folks ('commoners' like you and me) who are MAGA.
-- As for the hand pic, I cannot explain it. I have seen photos like that which are genuinely heartbreaking, but something about that specific one set off all kinds of heebie-jeebies in my gut; to be honest, it is still does. It wasn't a pre-determined reaction, because I honestly did not know much about Charlie - and knew nothing about his wife - before his assassination, but something about that pic just hit my instincts... wrong. I know that does not make a lot of sense, but I learned along time ago to trust my instincts, so I do.
Anyhow, hope that clears things up... at least somewhat.
Oh, and also? The Egg McMuffin was delicious :-)
I always say follow your gut...instincts were given to us by God so I respect your sharing about what you felt when seeing the pictures. I get the same feeling when I see Yuval Harari of the WEF. Glad you enjoyed your bfast!
Thanks, Lori, appreciate the response.
Oh, and that Yuval character? I soooo understand - he is a SERIOUSLY creepy dude.
Like... reptilian creepy.
Indeed, black eyes and talking about transhumanism. I am not convinced he is human. I have such a huge visceral response when I see him or hear him. All my hairs stand on end. For all I know, he may be a bot. I just know something is wrong with him.
And everyone on the planet could see those "dead hands of Charlies" were actually WAY TOO SMALL to be his, even in death. Hand size doesn't change. That wasn't his body!
Whosever hands they were: They appeared to be covered in makeup which failed to completely cover several (alleged) burn marks clearly pictured in photos taken of Charlie's body being hauled to a waiting SUV between 10 and 12 seconds after whatever the heck took him out on that day.
Just saying.
Those distinctive marks on his hands which only appeared after the incident in question are still visible on the hands that were filmed in that casket.
Yours, too🤦♀️⁉️
Charlie was assasinated and the world was immediately fed a ridiculous story of a lone gunman stuffing a 30-06 in his pants, disassembling and reassembling it, etc., etc. We are all being played as utter fools and anyone questioning the narrative is demonized. TPUSA and EK, of all people, should be the first to question the lies and attempt to get to the bottom of who killed CK. But no, they join the gaslighting and lie with the liars. The whole thing stinks to high-heaven. Do those who say "just move on" think assasinations and govt coverups are no big deal? But hey, the stock market is over 50k! And how many are now omniscient and know for a fact the motives of Candace. Would that our govt had as much resolve to solve this murder case as Candace and would that more pundits would stop participating in the gaslighting.
The internet has made all of us attention whores. Some are worse than others, but as a whole, (no, I'm not speaking directly to you, whoever gets offended first), people have decided it's their right and liberty to dissect other people for whatever it is they think they're doing wrong. Even I, (and I really do try to see the other side of things always), have considered posting my thoughts on something I know absolutely nothing about. Was I there? Do I know them personally? Is it a fact, or a fact in my own mind? Those are the questions people should ask themselves before commenting on someone else's life. And yet, I get it. The internet, the news and people who privately report on things like this are what we have to go on. So what else are we to do? We believe what typically aligns with our belief system, not always what is fact. In either case, how someone mourns is not up to me to judge. My boyfriend lost his wife 3 years ago and got through it partially by playing a game with a bunch of other men online. I don't know that that is how I would have grieved, but I'm thankful he had those men to get through some of it. Bottom line is this.... Candace Owens used to impress me. Now I think she's just doing what she feels she has to do to stay relevant.
SO INSIGHTFUL AND WELL SAID.
Thank you, Jenna. That means a lot coming from an amazing writer like yourself.
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A lot of people are making a living on the internet. Good for them. I am so thankful I don't have to.
Amen! Me, too. I couldn't handle the pressure.
I play a game called Minecraft with a man who lost his wife three years ago. He usually plays it with a bunch of other guys (family members) but we hit it off as friends before his wife died and so stay connected that way. He has a daughter and a son that I played with too before their mom passed away.
I actually dealt with losing my relationship with my daughter through gaming. Since she is still out there rejecting me, I lose her all over again every morning I wake up. So it stays raw and never dulls. It’s been 11 years now. That’s a long time to carry fresh, raw pain.
I couldn’t (still can’t) deal with the pain of losing her from my life, and the silly but creative play of that game helps me escape the grief on occasion, giving me a much needed reprieve.
I am so very sorry for the broken relationship with your daughter. Praying for you both. The enemy LOVES to divide family.
❤️ thank you.
Yes the enemy successfully ripped our family apart and knew exactly what would destroy my heart. Taking my first born from me and turning her against me.
It’s so hard to describe the pain of that.
I see no light at the end of the tunnel. I’ve had friends in the past assure me she’d outgrow it and come around (as their own kids did) but it never happened. Those friends grew silent and distant, as if we had leprosy, so we lost them too. Sadly what was missing from our daughter’s life was more adults (friends and family) defending us to her and impressing upon her the same values we were. That’s how their kids came around, because they had that, ours didn’t. So our daughter fell prey to the influence of peers and a wrecked society wanting to tear families apart.
Our sons barely survived it, and if not for witnessing what happened with our daughter we would have lost them too. I thank God for that.
I appreciate the prayer, as only a true miracle by God can change our circumstances. I patiently but anxiously await said miracle.
I am glad your BF is not alone anymore. Thank you for bringing happiness and love back into his life.
That is the sweetest thing I think I've heard in a long time! He is a huge blessing in my life and I am so grateful to God for bringing us together. Thank you for your kind words. ❤️
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The fact that the FBI along with TPUSA wrapped up this case so quickly without seemingly any further investigation or any questions ( even though before Candace started talking , the case was and is weak against Tyler Robinson, a lone shooter ?? Right … wrong !!!) …. Is a signal to me that something about the whole case is not what it seems at all which is why Candace investigation is believable. Is she making too many assumptions? Yes . Wonder if she is right in all that she is saying? Hasn’t the world been lying to us forever about everything ? What did we learn from Covid ? We are being lied to , even from our own govt . If they cover up something, then something is not quite right. And. , though I don’t like her fierce attack against EK, I don’t trust EK at all .
lol think the only I'd change is 'even' to especially by our own govmnt
Sounds like Candace is over the target 😎
Wondering why in the world Jenna would have "liked" your comment.
Does her Substack comments program have an "automatic like" feature?
Incongruous.
Things that make me go "hmmm Jenna."
It certainly does not. I appreciate a wide variety of feedback and like people to know that their comments were seen if they are respectful!
As respectful as you are. In this opinion article.
?????
Another possible answer for the poll:
"Candace who?"
And that is why MY answer was, “My next binge, obs!”
Another round of fireworks to take our attention away from things important and divide us.
The elites are jumping for joy.
Yawn.
Hey, but I did read the whole thing and chose the high number poll answer. 😂
The perpetrators (including elites) are jumping for joy they can get away with the highest profile assassination in decades while convincing people to "move on" and avoid looking further because of a grieving widow. We should avoid distractions, yes, but some things are more important than mere distractions.
I didn’t vote in the poll bcs frankly, I don’t care. Didn’t even know about the docuseries until now. The media is dumb and will regurgitate whatever dumb narrative is spoon fed to them by their masters and their sheeple will gleefully gobble it up until it fades and the next big (not!) thing rolls around. Yawn.
But…I admittedly CANNOT get enough of AOC’s mumbling and stumbling on the world stage in Munich last week. Now THAT was a SHOW.
Then she had to call a NYT writer to dry her tears and blame others. I will truly question a persons grip on reality if they feel she’s a serious candidate. 🤮
AOC, LOL.
Jenna, I was going to post my 'How the Fake Charlie Kirk Shooting Was Done' links but then i saw your note asking Conspiracy Theorists not to comment.
Just a reminder Jenna, that it was the CTs who were the first people screaming "Do NOT take the OWS vaxxines!".
As Republican Senator John Neely Kennedy said "I believe that we are going to have to get some new conspiracy theories. All the old ones turned out to be true".
Oh I’m a card-carrying conspiracy theorist, just last time some delicate readers got very offended by that line of thinking so I was trying to preempt that. I will admit all day every day that NOTHING is impossible. Literally nothing.
It's smart to believe every conspiracy theory *can* be true.
It's dumb to believe every one ofthem *is* true.
Just sayin.
Agree! 😉
One my favorite quotes, attributed to H. Kissinger, "even paranoids have enemies"
I want the T-shirt that says “I’m not a conspiracy theorist. I’m a Bullshit Analyst”.
👏👏👏
How about this T-shirt:
Not a Conspiracy Theorist
Hobbies: Lying.
"increasingly unhinged"?!!!!! NO NO NO! She HAS the receipts. One can't argue with leaked videos and texts. Everyone witnessed the leather pants, the glitter outfits, the fireworks. Erika is completely unhinged, with CIA ties on top! NO ONE other than Candace is seeking the answers to Charlie's death. How can people put their head in the sand: THE CAMERAS WERE REMOVED IN FIVE MINUTES AND WITHIN FIVE DAYS THEY HAD CEMENTED OVER THE CRIME SCENE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh trust me, I believe that the whole thing is SUUUUUUUUPER SUS. And I actually used to be a Candace... I wouldn't say FAN but I'd watch/listen on occasion--and I agreed with a lot of her stances (on Disney, vaccines, the scamdemic, and transgenderism, for example). And I absolutely DO admire her desire to get to the truth (and think Erika's lack of interest in it is odd). I just think she's got mean-girl energy (funny that a commenter just accused ME of that LOL!). Did you catch her feud with Jessica Reed Kraus? It was so cringe I had to unfollow both of them!
Nothing compares to the mean lib girls calling our US men's hockey team a prime example of masculine toxicity. As if....
I agree that Candace can come across as "mean girl", but I feel for her. She was such a good friend of Charlie's and I know this is just heartbreaking for her. We are all devastated, but with their history, I'm sure she's so much worse! I'm not watching any of her detractors because I believe she is on to something and if *they* don't kill her, she'll eventually get to the truth!
I haven’t chosen either side yet. I’m just remaining open-minded, and unfortunately bored by the whole thing now - and I LOVE Charlie, always have. If anything, what Candace is doing is short circuiting my attention to the drama she’s peddling. It’s having the opposite effect I’m sure she hopes she’s having, and that’s her fault.
But the one thing I don’t understand is how easy it is for some people to respect Candace’s relationship with Charlie and therefore her “mourning,” but not his own wife’s? He chose Erika to marry, NOT Candace. If those who have chosen to believe Candace’s perspectives openly respected Erika and her mourning as his spouse, I might be more open to their opinions. There’s a lot of odd things surrounding this, but that’s an oddity that is just as deserving of attention: why she isn’t being given the same sympathy being given to Candace? How ludicrous and heartless is that?
JuJu, love your comments here and over at C&C.
A thought on your comment above: I have to constantly remind myself that most of what I know, certainly all of what I know about people I've not met, I learned online.
Online. Disconnected from the human person. Open to every sort of deception...and that was before AI deep fakes. Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics.
So, I'm not even sure what to believe about this alleged feud between Owens and Kirk.
If there is a coverup, and the government is lying to us (should we ever start with the assumption the government is telling the truth? seems foolish), then I hope we do find out. The more of these secret goings on (and I'm not saying Kirk's murder is that...just might be) we can shed light on, the more likely it is we might actually find our way back to the right path as a Nation.
I believe any truth can be uncovered without the need to drag a widow through the mud before indisputable proof of her deserving it. She was never given the grace of being allowed to mourn normally, for even a reasonable amount of time, before Candace started to attack her and give permission to her followers to also pick Erika apart like ravenous vultures. This of course added fuel to all the Left’s haters of Charlie and his beliefs because they could continue to attack him by attacking his wife even more strongly thanks to Candace, and for that I am displeased with her.
I saw things within weeks of Charlie’s death that I thought were odd too, but that’s because I’m a different kind of person with a different set of life experiences. Would I wear tight leather pants so soon after my husband’s death while grieving for him? No. But then I wouldn’t wear them any other time either. Lol. That’s no sign that she is some heartless demon faking her grief, or responsible for his murder, it’s just a sign of a different lifestyle and possibly a bit of immaturity due to age/generation, trying to stay hip with his organization that is very young. Would I care if my mascara ran and smeared during an interview? Probably not, I would let the world see my brokenness. But seeing that in Erika would make a LOT of leftist lunatics pant and salivate in satisfaction because they feed on the destruction of Charlie and his family, and I think Erika wanted to deprive them of that victory. And she basically did. Yeah it meant she would be mocked for caring more how she looked than her loss, but I don’t think that’s why she did it.
I made a LOT of social/public faux pas at her age that I still cringe over my memory of today and wish I could turn back the clock so the memory of it weren’t in so many other people’s minds. I bet she will look back in twenty years and cringe herself. While she may be spiritually mature, she might be culturally immature. It’s possible. That was me to a T. It’s not a sign that she didn’t really love Charlie and therefore Candace’s grief is more meaningful than hers, yet that’s what Candace’s fans do with that info. That’s mean-girl energy.
And some cultures give the widow a full year to grieve for goodness sake! (My Greek relatives). She wasn’t even given a couple weeks! She had to balance her own grief, the grieving of her family and protection of her children, the grieving of Charlie’s employees, and the grieving of his followers. That’s a LOT on a widow’s plate. Then at the same time she had to decide the best way to keep his mission alive and not let the evil doers win what they wanted - the utter and complete destruction of his vision AND his family. I can understand the grit and determination to prevent that last part. I can see myself doing that exact same thing and focusing all my energy fiercely on that rather than the pain in my heart. None of us have ever been in her exact circumstances. Yeah she gave off Tammy Faye Vibes at some points, but again … she hadn’t yet done anything deserving of being perceived as the same. A vibe due to our visual memory of Tammy is not enough.
The persecution of Erika and her reputation, and so quickly after her husband’s death, is what is unacceptable to me. If she is guilty of anything, it can be exposed just the same without being evil shits ourselves. Sort of like, if you have to break the law yourself to prove someone else did, who is more guilty and shitty? I’d say both equally; it muddies the waters.
I don’t trust people who earn money by attacking another person before there’s any solid proof they are guilty and deserving of it. Speculation is all Candace has. Some of it may be very good speculation, but it’s far from actual proof. And that’s wrong. She’s too impatient to render judgment, so she disobeys Gods command to care for the widow and children and justifies it with her weaving. God warned us against doing that to each other.
Erika’s grief over losing Charlie is far more meaningful than Candace’s. If we can feel for how Candace feels over losing Charlie but can’t offer that same feeling and compassion to his actual wife, then what kind of people are we? Nothing good is what I say.
Thank you, Juju. Very helpful.
Lol, for a moment there I thought you were being serious.
Most days, that's as long as I want to be serious...a moment. :)
Don't care. Happy for Charlie, who is with Jesus and has no idea any of this is happening.
I'm not as certain as you are that "he has no idea any of this is happening".
That depends on your interpretation of the Bible. 1 Thessalonians 4:16 says that upon the return of Jesus the dead in Christ shall rise first. Before those still alive, Christ will take them up first because He cares that deeply for them. That implies they are asleep in death until he returns, that their bodies will be reunited with their spirits in that moment. To them, it will seem as if they are with him the instant they die, the same way we feel when we awake after sleeping all night, as if 7-8 hours was the blink of an eye. But they are unaware of all that is happening until that day.
Others believe the spirits of the dead are with Christ in heaven instantly and therefore aware of all that is going on in the earth.
But when I read Christ’s actions, words about, and reactions to the death of loved ones when he walked this earth, I get the sense that they are asleep until he returns. That’s why it never made sense to me to pray to Mother Mary or the Saints because I believe they are still asleep in Christ, and because I can pray directly to both Jesus and God the Father. Intercession never made sense to me since God will always listen to me directly. However, intercession by those alive does make sense: where two or more are gathered in my name I will hear their prayers.
But … I understand why and respect those who interpret it differently and therefore their practices of prayer.
Like I said, Juju, I knew I liked you!
I've not thought deeply or well about the afterlife, but love hearing what thoughtful, prayerful people think. My gut-thought has always been, "how could a person, a soul, be perfectly happy in God's presence if they were still connected somehow with all the suffering of those they love?" They are angels, not God.
I don't know that my gut thought here is Biblically based but it's what I've felt for a long time.
Elizabeth Lane characterized Erika as a predator using Charlie as a stepping stone for her own advancement. A narcissistic psychopath! I agree with her post which was thoughtful and carefully constructed. Candace taking something that may have validity and going over the top seems at par these days. Likewise, the over the top response from opposing views. I listen to neither. As usual, these catfights require stepping back quite a bit to see each for the blind tribally oriented individuals seeking the next set of clicks they are addicted to. It is important to always keep in mind that their personal income is highly dependent on how much they boost views regardless of the factual.
https://x.com/imelizabethlane
I am not sure I agree as Charlie would have spotted that in her and not married her. He was too sharp, IMHO.
I recognized Erika's demeanor the first time she spoke after Charlie's death. It was manufactured grief The eye contact and body language were completely out of sync with what she said. It just struck me how contrived it was. Eliz Lane's analysis firmed up what I saw. I see the same in every Erika talk since. Once you see it, just can't ignore it.
I have seen her many times and just do not see what you are observing. I will pay closer attention to see if I can pick up anything as you have.
Go to Elizabeth Lane's X post. Many agree with her insight.
https://x.com/imelizabethlane/status/2022418820070281295
Linked in the piece as well! Thank you! :)
Your link is how I found it. Stunning how it resonated with my first exposure to Erika. I have saved the link with a copy of the X post to reference an insight in my thinking. Thank you.
Promethean has brought James Logan to light. Worth knowing that those who were 'based' were fighting the 'unbased' then although the wording is different the perception remains.
https://www.prometheanaction.com/the-america-you-dont-yet-know/?ref=promethean-action-daily-newsletter
Thank you.
Keep listening carefully and always compare what someone says with how they behave. I takes a while to self-train your intuition. Once you capture one or two individuals who don't seem internally connected, words vs behavior, facial expression, you will suddenly see it often enough to trust your own judgement independent of anyone else.
Maybe his little head was doing the thinking, with regard to Erika Franzve.
Yes, all men can fall regarding that organ.
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Wanna bet this whole thing turns out like the highly anticipated opening of Al Capone’s vault by Geraldo Rivera in 1986? I was totally sucked in, waiting for the big reveal, then…nothing. To say it was a disappointment is an insult to the word disappointment.
LOL, we are dating ourselves by admitting we watched that whole fiasco! Poor Geraldo. It really was quite funny.
Exactly what came to mind as I was reading Jenna.