You should be fucking embarrassed for writing this. It has none of your usual wit and insight. You're obviously jealous of Candace,and would never have the courage to do what she does.
She's 100% right on Macron's gender, Israel, and mostly right about everything surrounding Charlie Kirk's murder by Israeli agents ( though she hasn't dotted all the i's and crossed all the t's)
I felt sad reading your pathetic, envious snark. Passive aggressive mean girl shit.
***“Pinning so future commenters know the bar for unintentional comedy is already very high***
Carlos! Thanks for taking the time to power through all of my embarrassing, not funny, not insightful, passive-aggressive mean-girl shit. Your commitment is admirable.
FWIW, sometimes a piece calls for satire, sometimes slapstick, and sometimes simply holding up a mirror and letting people draw their own conclusions. (Also, and I'm not sure if you are aware of this, the option to MOVE ALONG is almost always available to you as a reader.)
Do please share what YOU do for a living so my other readers and I can offer suggestions for how to do it better.
(*Was that passive aggressive? Sorry, it's a character flaw.)
Apparently your emotions got in the way of civilly stating your opinion. While I disagree with your opinion, you have a right to say it, but it could have been done without the strong intent to insult. It is irrational comments like yours is why so many of us can’t stand libs. I could have respected your opinion if it was stated in a respectful way. I would have agreed to disagree, but now I don’t. *You* are the one who should be embarrassed.
That's moving that you outed yourself, Carlos. It should be crystal clear that you are unwelcome on this platform. We do not entertain this sort of discourse. Ad hominem character attacks are unacceptable behaviour. And, “lame” is reserved for comments over at Bluesky. They will adore you.
None of what Jenna said ever suggested any "jealousy" on her part to me.
Your second comment "she's 100% right..." is 100% negated by the ending of that sentence "(though she hasn't dotted all the i's and crossed all the t's)". You ABSOLUTELY have to dot all the i's and cross all the t's to be 100% right about something. Until you've reached under Macron's skirt and grabbed her by the balls, you will never be 100% sure about his/her gender. True, she makes a compelling case - one which Macron could easily dispel and hasn't, to my knowledge - but it still lives in the land of speculation, because there are just some things we'll never know.
You may want to try on the idea of living in a world based on educated guesses, rather than 100% sureties. Something like "I'm 90% convinced that Candace is on the right track about Macron, based on everything I've researched about this subject". Try "seems to be" as opposed to "is" - then your statements will make sense, and you can proudly take your place along with the rest of us in this world where less and less can be 100% known with every passing day. It may be uncomfortable at first, but in short order your new-found humility will feel right at home and you'll be more confident than ever, knowing you're making statements that are relative to your current knowledge and experience base, rather than unproveable statements about an entire universe of things you can never know.
This is part of the Deep State. Sorry to inform you. The Deep State is a huge spider web and this is one integral part of that web of lies. There are too many people involved and too many "Coincidences".
One of the only things fracturing us is that the other black pill influencers are making anything of one that they do not like. Just like Nick Fuentes. If others don't attack he slinks back down to a nobody.
But I do agree with you, I will pay attention to the big picture. President Trump is doing a great job. But it is a job for an army, which he has. I am still on Trust the Plan, even though is is difficult most days not seeing any accountability in public yet. But I am hopeful it will come soon. We don't have much time left.
I wish we could dismantle the whole stinking deep state. I don't know what kind of men and women are involved with the deep state but to be part of so many things that are depraved, I suggest they are Satanic and thrive on chaos which is beyond abnormal.
I have actively avoided this topic, because it really is - as you aptly pointed out - all about the drama, which I lost interest in as a young teen with the whole 'Who shot JR?" fiasco. But two things do stand out...
1) The highly-creepy picture of Erica holding her husband's hand in the coffin; it's really hard to get past that
2) The (allegedly coordinated) attack of Candace by MAGA Inc™ over the last 36 hours; too many similarities in the phrasing of each post to be coincidence.
While Candace's oft-unhinged rants make it difficult to trust her, I trust those attacking her (Loomer, Levin, Feline Defecation, etc) even less, so what the blazes SHOULD I think?
I think... I'll have a very-unhealthy Egg McMuffin for breakfast, and instead focus on the fact my city council is about to do something stupid.
You know... LOCAL things ;-) Great work, as always...
-- I was referring to the weirdly-dogmatic MAGA "influencers" on X, those with big platforms and bigger mouths; that's why I called them "MAGA Inc™" to differentiate them from regular folks ('commoners' like you and me) who are MAGA.
-- As for the hand pic, I cannot explain it. I have seen photos like that which are genuinely heartbreaking, but something about that specific one set off all kinds of heebie-jeebies in my gut; to be honest, it is still does. It wasn't a pre-determined reaction, because I honestly did not know much about Charlie - and knew nothing about his wife - before his assassination, but something about that pic just hit my instincts... wrong. I know that does not make a lot of sense, but I learned along time ago to trust my instincts, so I do.
Anyhow, hope that clears things up... at least somewhat.
And everyone on the planet could see those "dead hands of Charlies" were actually WAY TOO SMALL to be his, even in death. Hand size doesn't change. That wasn't his body!
Whosever hands they were: They appeared to be covered in makeup which faiked to completely cover several (alleged) burn marks clearly pictured in photos taken of Charlie's body being hauled to a waiting SUV between 10 and 12 seconds after whatever the heck took him out on that day.
Just saying.
Those distinctive marks on his hands which only appeared after the incident in question are still visible on the hands that were filmed in that casket.
Charlie was assasinated and the world was immediately fed a ridiculous story of a lone gunman stuffing a 30-06 in his pants, disassembling and reassembling it, etc., etc. We are all being played as utter fools and anyone questioning the narrative is demonized. TPUSA and EK, of all people, should be the first to question the lies and attempt to get to the bottom of who killed CK. But no, they join the gaslighting and lie with the liars. The whole thing stinks to high-heaven. Do those who say "just move on" think assasinations and govt coverups are no big deal? But hey, the stock market is over 50k! And how many are now omniscient and know for a fact the motives of Candace. Would that our govt had as much resolve to solve this murder case as Candace and would that more pundits would stop participating in the gaslighting.
The fact that the FBI along with TPUSA wrapped up this case so quickly without seemingly any further investigation or any questions ( even though before Candace started talking , the case was and is weak against Tyler Robinson, a lone shooter ?? Right … wrong !!!) …. Is a signal to me that something about the whole case is not what it seems at all which is why Candace investigation is believable. Is she making too many assumptions? Yes . Wonder if she is right in all that she is saying? Hasn’t the world been lying to us forever about everything ? What did we learn from Covid ? We are being lied to , even from our own govt . If they cover up something, then something is not quite right. And. , though I don’t like her fierce attack against EK, I don’t trust EK at all .
Elizabeth Lane characterized Erika as a predator using Charlie as a stepping stone for her own advancement. A narcissistic psychopath! I agree with her post which was thoughtful and carefully constructed. Candace taking something that may have validity and going over the top seems at par these days. Likewise, the over the top response from opposing views. I listen to neither. As usual, these catfights require stepping back quite a bit to see each for the blind tribally oriented individuals seeking the next set of clicks they are addicted to. It is important to always keep in mind that their personal income is highly dependent on how much they boost views regardless of the factual.
I recognized Erika's demeanor the first time she spoke after Charlie's death. It was manufactured grief The eye contact and body language were completely out of sync with what she said. It just struck me how contrived it was. Eliz Lane's analysis firmed up what I saw. I see the same in every Erika talk since. Once you see it, just can't ignore it.
The internet has made all of us attention whores. Some are worse than others, but as a whole, (no, I'm not speaking directly to you, whoever gets offended first), people have decided it's their right and liberty to dissect other people for whatever it is they think they're doing wrong. Even I, (and I really do try to see the other side of things always), have considered posting my thoughts on something I know absolutely nothing about. Was I there? Do I know them personally? Is it a fact, or a fact in my own mind? Those are the questions people should ask themselves before commenting on someone else's life. And yet, I get it. The internet, the news and people who privately report on things like this are what we have to go on. So what else are we to do? We believe what typically aligns with our belief system, not always what is fact. In either case, how someone mourns is not up to me to judge. My boyfriend lost his wife 3 years ago and got through it partially by playing a game with a bunch of other men online. I don't know that that is how I would have grieved, but I'm thankful he had those men to get through some of it. Bottom line is this.... Candace Owens used to impress me. Now I think she's just doing what she feels she has to do to stay relevant.
I didn’t vote in the poll bcs frankly, I don’t care. Didn’t even know about the docuseries until now. The media is dumb and will regurgitate whatever dumb narrative is spoon fed to them by their masters and their sheeple will gleefully gobble it up until it fades and the next big (not!) thing rolls around. Yawn.
But…I admittedly CANNOT get enough of AOC’s mumbling and stumbling on the world stage in Munich last week. Now THAT was a SHOW.
Wanna bet this whole thing turns out like the highly anticipated opening of Al Capone’s vault by Geraldo Rivera in 1986? I was totally sucked in, waiting for the big reveal, then…nothing. To say it was a disappointment is an insult to the word disappointment.
"increasingly unhinged"?!!!!! NO NO NO! She HAS the receipts. One can't argue with leaked videos and texts. Everyone witnessed the leather pants, the glitter outfits, the fireworks. Erika is completely unhinged, with CIA ties on top! NO ONE other than Candace is seeking the answers to Charlie's death. How can people put their head in the sand: THE CAMERAS WERE REMOVED IN FIVE MINUTES AND WITHIN FIVE DAYS THEY HAD CEMENTED OVER THE CRIME SCENE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh trust me, I believe that the whole thing is SUUUUUUUUPER SUS. And I actually used to be a Candace... I wouldn't say FAN but I'd watch/listen on occasion--and I agreed with a lot of her stances (on Disney, vaccines, the scamdemic, and transgenderism, for example). And I absolutely DO admire her desire to get to the truth (and think Erika's lack of interest in it is odd). I just think she's got mean-girl energy (funny that a commenter just accused ME of that LOL!). Did you catch her feud with Jessica Reed Kraus? It was so cringe I had to unfollow both of them!
I agree that Candace can come across as "mean girl", but I feel for her. She was such a good friend of Charlie's and I know this is just heartbreaking for her. We are all devastated, but with their history, I'm sure she's so much worse! I'm not watching any of her detractors because I believe she is on to something and if *they* don't kill her, she'll eventually get to the truth!
Jenna, I was going to post my 'How the Fake Charlie Kirk Shooting Was Done' links but then i saw your note asking Conspiracy Theorists not to comment.
Just a reminder Jenna, that it was the CTs who were the first people screaming "Do NOT take the OWS vaxxines!".
As Republican Senator John Neely Kennedy said "I believe that we are going to have to get some new conspiracy theories. All the old ones turned out to be true".
Oh I’m a card-carrying conspiracy theorist, just last time some delicate readers got very offended by that line of thinking so I was trying to preempt that. I will admit all day every day that NOTHING is impossible. Literally nothing.
You should be fucking embarrassed for writing this. It has none of your usual wit and insight. You're obviously jealous of Candace,and would never have the courage to do what she does.
She's 100% right on Macron's gender, Israel, and mostly right about everything surrounding Charlie Kirk's murder by Israeli agents ( though she hasn't dotted all the i's and crossed all the t's)
I felt sad reading your pathetic, envious snark. Passive aggressive mean girl shit.
***“Pinning so future commenters know the bar for unintentional comedy is already very high***
Carlos! Thanks for taking the time to power through all of my embarrassing, not funny, not insightful, passive-aggressive mean-girl shit. Your commitment is admirable.
FWIW, sometimes a piece calls for satire, sometimes slapstick, and sometimes simply holding up a mirror and letting people draw their own conclusions. (Also, and I'm not sure if you are aware of this, the option to MOVE ALONG is almost always available to you as a reader.)
Do please share what YOU do for a living so my other readers and I can offer suggestions for how to do it better.
(*Was that passive aggressive? Sorry, it's a character flaw.)
Apparently your emotions got in the way of civilly stating your opinion. While I disagree with your opinion, you have a right to say it, but it could have been done without the strong intent to insult. It is irrational comments like yours is why so many of us can’t stand libs. I could have respected your opinion if it was stated in a respectful way. I would have agreed to disagree, but now I don’t. *You* are the one who should be embarrassed.
I would choose the “move along” option, Carlos. Jenna has more courage in the tip of her baby finger than you have in your entire sad being.
No, please run along now because your true calling lies over there in Bluesky land.
These rebuttals are all lame.
And I'm a conservative:)
That's moving that you outed yourself, Carlos. It should be crystal clear that you are unwelcome on this platform. We do not entertain this sort of discourse. Ad hominem character attacks are unacceptable behaviour. And, “lame” is reserved for comments over at Bluesky. They will adore you.
Notice the different colored avatar in the two 'Carlos' posts.
OOOh! Interesting!
Telling!
pot meet kettle
Hey Carlos, chill dude...
None of what Jenna said ever suggested any "jealousy" on her part to me.
Your second comment "she's 100% right..." is 100% negated by the ending of that sentence "(though she hasn't dotted all the i's and crossed all the t's)". You ABSOLUTELY have to dot all the i's and cross all the t's to be 100% right about something. Until you've reached under Macron's skirt and grabbed her by the balls, you will never be 100% sure about his/her gender. True, she makes a compelling case - one which Macron could easily dispel and hasn't, to my knowledge - but it still lives in the land of speculation, because there are just some things we'll never know.
You may want to try on the idea of living in a world based on educated guesses, rather than 100% sureties. Something like "I'm 90% convinced that Candace is on the right track about Macron, based on everything I've researched about this subject". Try "seems to be" as opposed to "is" - then your statements will make sense, and you can proudly take your place along with the rest of us in this world where less and less can be 100% known with every passing day. It may be uncomfortable at first, but in short order your new-found humility will feel right at home and you'll be more confident than ever, knowing you're making statements that are relative to your current knowledge and experience base, rather than unproveable statements about an entire universe of things you can never know.
It worked for me.
Carlos, I did not get that from Jenna at all. Why the vulgar wording?
I went with “Candace being Candace” for the poll, but only because “Who even cares” wasn’t an option.
Ditto.
Yes.
I’m on the sidelines for the Candace vs. Erika prize fight. I’ll stay focused on President Trump’s efforts to dismantle the Deep State.
This is part of the Deep State. Sorry to inform you. The Deep State is a huge spider web and this is one integral part of that web of lies. There are too many people involved and too many "Coincidences".
One of the only things fracturing us is that the other black pill influencers are making anything of one that they do not like. Just like Nick Fuentes. If others don't attack he slinks back down to a nobody.
But I do agree with you, I will pay attention to the big picture. President Trump is doing a great job. But it is a job for an army, which he has. I am still on Trust the Plan, even though is is difficult most days not seeing any accountability in public yet. But I am hopeful it will come soon. We don't have much time left.
I agree that Erika and Candace are both DS constructs. I’m not getting distracted by the DS PysOp.
I wish we could dismantle the whole stinking deep state. I don't know what kind of men and women are involved with the deep state but to be part of so many things that are depraved, I suggest they are Satanic and thrive on chaos which is beyond abnormal.
I have actively avoided this topic, because it really is - as you aptly pointed out - all about the drama, which I lost interest in as a young teen with the whole 'Who shot JR?" fiasco. But two things do stand out...
1) The highly-creepy picture of Erica holding her husband's hand in the coffin; it's really hard to get past that
2) The (allegedly coordinated) attack of Candace by MAGA Inc™ over the last 36 hours; too many similarities in the phrasing of each post to be coincidence.
While Candace's oft-unhinged rants make it difficult to trust her, I trust those attacking her (Loomer, Levin, Feline Defecation, etc) even less, so what the blazes SHOULD I think?
I think... I'll have a very-unhealthy Egg McMuffin for breakfast, and instead focus on the fact my city council is about to do something stupid.
You know... LOCAL things ;-) Great work, as always...
🩷🤗
Yours, too🤦♀️⁉️
I am a MAGA but have not attacked either Candace or Erica.
What was creepy to you about Erica holding Charlie's hand Stone?
I did the same when my mom passed. My mom's lovely hand that cared for her family so many years, those beautiful hands.
Good luck with the city council and enjoy the egg mcmuffin!
Fair questions, Lori...
-- I was referring to the weirdly-dogmatic MAGA "influencers" on X, those with big platforms and bigger mouths; that's why I called them "MAGA Inc™" to differentiate them from regular folks ('commoners' like you and me) who are MAGA.
-- As for the hand pic, I cannot explain it. I have seen photos like that which are genuinely heartbreaking, but something about that specific one set off all kinds of heebie-jeebies in my gut; to be honest, it is still does. It wasn't a pre-determined reaction, because I honestly did not know much about Charlie - and knew nothing about his wife - before his assassination, but something about that pic just hit my instincts... wrong. I know that does not make a lot of sense, but I learned along time ago to trust my instincts, so I do.
Anyhow, hope that clears things up... at least somewhat.
Oh, and also? The Egg McMuffin was delicious :-)
And everyone on the planet could see those "dead hands of Charlies" were actually WAY TOO SMALL to be his, even in death. Hand size doesn't change. That wasn't his body!
Whosever hands they were: They appeared to be covered in makeup which faiked to completely cover several (alleged) burn marks clearly pictured in photos taken of Charlie's body being hauled to a waiting SUV between 10 and 12 seconds after whatever the heck took him out on that day.
Just saying.
Those distinctive marks on his hands which only appeared after the incident in question are still visible on the hands that were filmed in that casket.
Charlie was assasinated and the world was immediately fed a ridiculous story of a lone gunman stuffing a 30-06 in his pants, disassembling and reassembling it, etc., etc. We are all being played as utter fools and anyone questioning the narrative is demonized. TPUSA and EK, of all people, should be the first to question the lies and attempt to get to the bottom of who killed CK. But no, they join the gaslighting and lie with the liars. The whole thing stinks to high-heaven. Do those who say "just move on" think assasinations and govt coverups are no big deal? But hey, the stock market is over 50k! And how many are now omniscient and know for a fact the motives of Candace. Would that our govt had as much resolve to solve this murder case as Candace and would that more pundits would stop participating in the gaslighting.
The fact that the FBI along with TPUSA wrapped up this case so quickly without seemingly any further investigation or any questions ( even though before Candace started talking , the case was and is weak against Tyler Robinson, a lone shooter ?? Right … wrong !!!) …. Is a signal to me that something about the whole case is not what it seems at all which is why Candace investigation is believable. Is she making too many assumptions? Yes . Wonder if she is right in all that she is saying? Hasn’t the world been lying to us forever about everything ? What did we learn from Covid ? We are being lied to , even from our own govt . If they cover up something, then something is not quite right. And. , though I don’t like her fierce attack against EK, I don’t trust EK at all .
lol think the only I'd change is 'even' to especially by our own govmnt
Another possible answer for the poll:
"Candace who?"
And that is why MY answer was, “My next binge, obs!”
Another round of fireworks to take our attention away from things important and divide us.
The elites are jumping for joy.
Yawn.
Hey, but I did read the whole thing and chose the high number poll answer. 😂
Sounds like Candace is over the target 😎
Wondering why in the world Jenna would have "liked" your comment.
Does her Substack comments program have an "automatic like" feature?
Incongruous.
Things that make me go "hmmm Jenna."
Elizabeth Lane characterized Erika as a predator using Charlie as a stepping stone for her own advancement. A narcissistic psychopath! I agree with her post which was thoughtful and carefully constructed. Candace taking something that may have validity and going over the top seems at par these days. Likewise, the over the top response from opposing views. I listen to neither. As usual, these catfights require stepping back quite a bit to see each for the blind tribally oriented individuals seeking the next set of clicks they are addicted to. It is important to always keep in mind that their personal income is highly dependent on how much they boost views regardless of the factual.
https://x.com/imelizabethlane
I am not sure I agree as Charlie would have spotted that in her and not married her. He was too sharp, IMHO.
I recognized Erika's demeanor the first time she spoke after Charlie's death. It was manufactured grief The eye contact and body language were completely out of sync with what she said. It just struck me how contrived it was. Eliz Lane's analysis firmed up what I saw. I see the same in every Erika talk since. Once you see it, just can't ignore it.
I have seen her many times and just do not see what you are observing. I will pay closer attention to see if I can pick up anything as you have.
Maybe his little head was doing the thinking, with regard to Erika Franzve.
Yes, all men can fall regarding that organ.
The internet has made all of us attention whores. Some are worse than others, but as a whole, (no, I'm not speaking directly to you, whoever gets offended first), people have decided it's their right and liberty to dissect other people for whatever it is they think they're doing wrong. Even I, (and I really do try to see the other side of things always), have considered posting my thoughts on something I know absolutely nothing about. Was I there? Do I know them personally? Is it a fact, or a fact in my own mind? Those are the questions people should ask themselves before commenting on someone else's life. And yet, I get it. The internet, the news and people who privately report on things like this are what we have to go on. So what else are we to do? We believe what typically aligns with our belief system, not always what is fact. In either case, how someone mourns is not up to me to judge. My boyfriend lost his wife 3 years ago and got through it partially by playing a game with a bunch of other men online. I don't know that that is how I would have grieved, but I'm thankful he had those men to get through some of it. Bottom line is this.... Candace Owens used to impress me. Now I think she's just doing what she feels she has to do to stay relevant.
SO INSIGHTFUL AND WELL SAID.
Thank you, Jenna. That means a lot coming from an amazing writer like yourself.
🤗🩷
A lot of people are making a living on the internet. Good for them. I am so thankful I don't have to.
I am glad your BF is not alone anymore. Thank you for bringing happiness and love back into his life.
I didn’t vote in the poll bcs frankly, I don’t care. Didn’t even know about the docuseries until now. The media is dumb and will regurgitate whatever dumb narrative is spoon fed to them by their masters and their sheeple will gleefully gobble it up until it fades and the next big (not!) thing rolls around. Yawn.
But…I admittedly CANNOT get enough of AOC’s mumbling and stumbling on the world stage in Munich last week. Now THAT was a SHOW.
AOC, LOL.
Wanna bet this whole thing turns out like the highly anticipated opening of Al Capone’s vault by Geraldo Rivera in 1986? I was totally sucked in, waiting for the big reveal, then…nothing. To say it was a disappointment is an insult to the word disappointment.
LOL, we are dating ourselves by admitting we watched that whole fiasco! Poor Geraldo. It really was quite funny.
"increasingly unhinged"?!!!!! NO NO NO! She HAS the receipts. One can't argue with leaked videos and texts. Everyone witnessed the leather pants, the glitter outfits, the fireworks. Erika is completely unhinged, with CIA ties on top! NO ONE other than Candace is seeking the answers to Charlie's death. How can people put their head in the sand: THE CAMERAS WERE REMOVED IN FIVE MINUTES AND WITHIN FIVE DAYS THEY HAD CEMENTED OVER THE CRIME SCENE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh trust me, I believe that the whole thing is SUUUUUUUUPER SUS. And I actually used to be a Candace... I wouldn't say FAN but I'd watch/listen on occasion--and I agreed with a lot of her stances (on Disney, vaccines, the scamdemic, and transgenderism, for example). And I absolutely DO admire her desire to get to the truth (and think Erika's lack of interest in it is odd). I just think she's got mean-girl energy (funny that a commenter just accused ME of that LOL!). Did you catch her feud with Jessica Reed Kraus? It was so cringe I had to unfollow both of them!
I agree that Candace can come across as "mean girl", but I feel for her. She was such a good friend of Charlie's and I know this is just heartbreaking for her. We are all devastated, but with their history, I'm sure she's so much worse! I'm not watching any of her detractors because I believe she is on to something and if *they* don't kill her, she'll eventually get to the truth!
Nothing compares to the mean lib girls calling our US men's hockey team a prime example of masculine toxicity. As if....
Don't care. Happy for Charlie, who is with Jesus and has no idea any of this is happening.
I'm not as certain as you are that "he has no idea any of this is happening".
Jenna, I was going to post my 'How the Fake Charlie Kirk Shooting Was Done' links but then i saw your note asking Conspiracy Theorists not to comment.
Just a reminder Jenna, that it was the CTs who were the first people screaming "Do NOT take the OWS vaxxines!".
As Republican Senator John Neely Kennedy said "I believe that we are going to have to get some new conspiracy theories. All the old ones turned out to be true".
Oh I’m a card-carrying conspiracy theorist, just last time some delicate readers got very offended by that line of thinking so I was trying to preempt that. I will admit all day every day that NOTHING is impossible. Literally nothing.